wow matrox are still going?? i remember paying a small fortune for the g400 when it came out, environmental bump mapping was going to be the best thing since sliced bread, but 3dfx stamped it to death. the sad thig is i bet there are people reading this that have never even heard of 3dfx, damn im feeling old now! #matroxm9188pciex16
@spudhed: Matrox is still around in the high end studio / professional world. They are still fairly well known in the high end video market, I beleive #matroxm9188pciex16
@jamjen: Correct. Matrox decided to specialize in business applications and avoid the gaming race(to expensive). Generally they're cards are not quite as powerful as the current ATI/Nvidia but support many application specific enhancements plus wonderful multi-monitor support. #matroxm9188pciex16
I know it does DVI as well... but I have to ask does anything really use DisplayPort besides a smattering of Apple products? I don't think I've seen a single display or piece of AV equipment that supports DP. Nearly everything has either HDMI or DVI connections.
Basically my question is what the hell do you connect it to? #matroxm9188pciex16
@Odin: Dell and Apple use it, but you can use adapters and connect almost every monitor or TV to it. Since DVI connector is too big and HDMI is really limited, the Displayport is the smartest choice here. #matroxm9188pciex16
@Peregrinvs: Like hell. My mouse cannot get any better.
Unless I find a mouse that can make nachos and pizza and get me a soda/whiskey/both, while I still use it to frag nOObs. Is that part of USB 3.0, or will I have to wait for 4.0? #usb30
@whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: Then just give me your soul so I can convince Intel to give me a chipset with DDR5 ram and a couple of those fancy PCIE 2.0 SSDs.
I don't know... I don't think I would sacrifice a PCI-E slot just for a couple of USB 3 ports. Most motherboards are likely to have a surplus of SATA ports in which case it would be easier to just install some SATA to eSATA converters. The existing SATA standard already nets you 3Gbps which isn't too much slower than USB 3.0's 4.8Gbps.
@B-low: True, but you can't beat the plug-and-play convenience. Which would you rather trust granny to plug in: a USB device or an eSATA device? #usb30
@B-low: @B-low: I have to disagree a little here. 3Gbps vs 4.8Gbps is a transfer speed difference of more than 60%. That's pretty significant, I think.
I still agree generally...it's tough to sacrifice a PCI-E slot when you'll have lots of extra SATA ports. #usb30
@Counterglow: If you're already transferring at 3gbps, it's hard to imagine having a file large enough for the 4.8 gbps to make a big difference. Well, on a domestic computer, at least. I guess it's the difference between a 30 second transfer, and a 20 second transfer. But that's still not much. #usb30
@Pope John Peeps II: Most of the time you're probably going to be transferring data from an internal drive with an interface speed of 3.0Gbps to an external USB drive. So you're still capped at 3.0Gbps regardless of the fact the USB interface speed is 4.8Gbps.
Plus, I imagine there is some overhead anyway translating from SATA to USB 3.0.
SATA and eSATA are just two different physical interfaces. They both use SATA commands.
@Counterglow: Shouldn't we first determine how much of that 4.8 Gbps is available in the real world?
High speed USB 2.0 is rated at 480 Mbps = 60 MB/s...but in the real world, you're lucky to be able to get half of that. As I understand it, the real-world limit is due to overhead, extra processing, etc. in the spec. I've never seen any device that can actually transfer even 45 MB/s over USB 2.0.
Do we know if the 4.8 Gbps is going to actually be achievable? #usb30
@Counterglow: Seeing as only the most elite RAM-based "hard drive" devices can even think of touching 3Gbps currently, forget it. 4.8 isn't gonna happen for you. #usb30
@Sneaky0: Right now nothing that I'm aware of. Some NAS setups in RAID are well capable of write speeds in excess of 500MBps or over 4Gbps but I think at those thresholds you begin to see bottle necks all over the place. I'm not sure if many CPUs can handle data transfer at that rate. #usb30
@B-low: That's what I meant. Without a raid setup or similar, reaching those speeds are nearly impossible. Also the average users don't even know what a raid is. It's great having a connection that's capable of those speeds, but until manufacturers start making fast disks at consumer prices. These connections are somewhat useless in the real world. #usb30
Not only is it overpriced for four gigs, it's hella huge for four gigs, I don't see where this thing has much use. Most of the SSD's i've seen are at least pretty dang tiny so great for small footprint systems like netbooks, carputers, or a pocket server.
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Basically my question is what the hell do you connect it to? #matroxm9188pciex16
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Limited how? HDMI has a very similar feature set to DP. #matroxm9188pciex16
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No, I can't let you in! You'd see the Big Board!
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But maybe I'm misreading. Last night was a loooooong night. #usb30
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Also, when you swap up to a better mouse, I get your old one. ;] #usb30
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Unless I find a mouse that can make nachos and pizza and get me a soda/whiskey/both, while I still use it to frag nOObs. Is that part of USB 3.0, or will I have to wait for 4.0? #usb30
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=D You've gotta be worth somethin', right? #usb30
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I still agree generally...it's tough to sacrifice a PCI-E slot when you'll have lots of extra SATA ports. #usb30
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Plus, I imagine there is some overhead anyway translating from SATA to USB 3.0.
SATA and eSATA are just two different physical interfaces. They both use SATA commands.
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High speed USB 2.0 is rated at 480 Mbps = 60 MB/s...but in the real world, you're lucky to be able to get half of that. As I understand it, the real-world limit is due to overhead, extra processing, etc. in the spec. I've never seen any device that can actually transfer even 45 MB/s over USB 2.0.
Do we know if the 4.8 Gbps is going to actually be achievable? #usb30
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[www.pcper.com] #usb30
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