If this is both as good as flash, but as fast as DRAM, could we seen an evolution in computing architecture? Imagine, if you will, a world where hard drives and RAM are the same thing. If you wanted more "RAM" for your system, you just partition off larger chunks of your drive to be used.
Not to mention the savings in the board architecture since you wouldn't need the bridge to the RAM and the connection to the hard drives.
Intel tried to push to market a fast, new, proprietary memory format a few years back...it was called RD-RAM...and that was a cluster ef. Why would this be any different than that? Not to mention IA-64, Netburst, etc. #intelphasechangingmemory
@kylecpcs: First, Intel never owned the rights to RDRAM, they licensed it from Rambus who apparently was a pretty horrible technology partner. Their stiff fees and requirements caused Intel and the rest of the industry to eventually dump them.
Second, RDRAM was a *volatile* memory like pretty much every other kind of DRAM. Fast, but you turn the power off and you lose data. This new tech will allow you to have DRAM speeds *and* have the ability to turn the power off. It's not just a competing technology like RDRAM was to SDRAM, it's a memory evolution. Also, this new memory will allow read/write lifetimes on par with SDRAM (or perhaps exceeding it) meaning that all the drawbacks of flash memory are eliminated. Finally it will be possible to truly replace spinning drives with a superior technology. #intelphasechangingmemory
@Lukasz Fabis: Expense doesn't really enter into it. They forced it as a standard (and it was a type of technology, just like DDR) and now I have to deal with clients looking for additional memory for their PC that was only used in half a generation of P4's for about 6 months then died. #intelphasechangingmemory
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No, a general type of technology would be something akin to a 32 nm die process, or a particular technique for storing data on optical media, or the difference between DRAM and 1T DRAM.
RDRAM was a proprietary standard of dynamic RAM made by the Rambus Corporation. Netburst was a particular CPU architecture based on the x86 instruction set. IA-64 is a particular instruction set.
We're talking about apples, oranges, and apple smoothies here. Phase-change memory isn't some proprietary rehash of existing standards that's just bound to suck money out of consumer's pockets, and it's not some new competing standard to stir up the status quo. This is a fundamental change in the underlying technology of solid state data storage. Once it becomes viable for mass production, you can bet it will be compatible with existing hardware, in this case, most likely as a USB drive or an SATA SSD.
So yes, expense has everything to do with it. It will likely have a high initial expense, as most things do, and when production scales up and production techniques are refined, prices will reach more accessible levels. #intelphasechangingmemory
Hmmm... so, could you fill this with hot water to charge up the PCM then empty and put in your coffee? I already pre-heat my coffee cups, but they do chill a bit fast.
Isn't this the same institute that invented the MP3?
Seems like a good idea at first, but just wait until all coffee gets distributed as lossy diluted dreck, and the only way coffee makers can make any money is putting on shows and selling t-shirts while coffee lovers the world over download compressed versions of the beverage for free.
Ok, I'd be willing to pay money for this, no doubt. But dammit I just know before this gets to market some stupid ass advisor is gonna say "let's figure out how to paint or cover it...I don't like the whole high tech stuff" and I will subsequently punch him in the face for ruining such a fine piece of coffee accesory.
The only way I manage to be able to drink coffee that is still even passably warm is one of those electric mug coasters, one of which is sitting on my desk keeping my french roast ready for me. I can use any mug I want (so long as its ceramic). This product only works for 30 minutes and it doesnt even have an Apple logo on the side. Coffee mugs are an important form of self expression too.
@ninjajazza: Remember guys: there's only a handful of scientists in the world, and if they're not curing cancer/putting a man on Mars/pefecting flying cars then it is your right - even your duty - to criticize them!
@strider_mt2k: Probably flammable as hell. Imagine a house that has walls filled with wax on fire. May as well just keep 55 gallon drums or kerosene in all the rooms.
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Not to mention the savings in the board architecture since you wouldn't need the bridge to the RAM and the connection to the hard drives.
Food for thought. #intelphasechangingmemory
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Imagine being able to power down your devices and go back to exactly where you left off microseconds after turning them back on.
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The difference here is that this is a general type of technology and not one proprietary product.
Hard drives and flash memory were both rather expensive in their respective infancies as well. #intelphasechangingmemory
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Second, RDRAM was a *volatile* memory like pretty much every other kind of DRAM. Fast, but you turn the power off and you lose data. This new tech will allow you to have DRAM speeds *and* have the ability to turn the power off. It's not just a competing technology like RDRAM was to SDRAM, it's a memory evolution. Also, this new memory will allow read/write lifetimes on par with SDRAM (or perhaps exceeding it) meaning that all the drawbacks of flash memory are eliminated. Finally it will be possible to truly replace spinning drives with a superior technology. #intelphasechangingmemory
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No, a general type of technology would be something akin to a 32 nm die process, or a particular technique for storing data on optical media, or the difference between DRAM and 1T DRAM.
RDRAM was a proprietary standard of dynamic RAM made by the Rambus Corporation. Netburst was a particular CPU architecture based on the x86 instruction set. IA-64 is a particular instruction set.
We're talking about apples, oranges, and apple smoothies here. Phase-change memory isn't some proprietary rehash of existing standards that's just bound to suck money out of consumer's pockets, and it's not some new competing standard to stir up the status quo. This is a fundamental change in the underlying technology of solid state data storage. Once it becomes viable for mass production, you can bet it will be compatible with existing hardware, in this case, most likely as a USB drive or an SATA SSD.
So yes, expense has everything to do with it. It will likely have a high initial expense, as most things do, and when production scales up and production techniques are refined, prices will reach more accessible levels. #intelphasechangingmemory
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"Re-route the main computer's Phase-changing Memory Array through the EPS conduits!" Yeah... that'll work. #intelphasechangingmemory
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Seems like a good idea at first, but just wait until all coffee gets distributed as lossy diluted dreck, and the only way coffee makers can make any money is putting on shows and selling t-shirts while coffee lovers the world over download compressed versions of the beverage for free.
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I'm thinking cost of materials or toxicity or some other thing, but we'll see.
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