@chorx: Apparently you enjoy paying to support monopolies that overcharge as much as possible. This is how we got Microsoft, no competition meant no reason to price competitively. Now we're paying $400 for a new OS when it comes out, and $300 for a decent Office suit. Maybe if you have so much money to spare you should spread the wealth a little bit.
@soccer1105: @EqualOpportunityCrasher: i apologize if I'm wrong, but you guys seem to have misunderstood "bulldozer". It's an entirely new architecture with SSE5 instructions.
@EqualOpportunityCrasher: AMD's been tight-lipped but supposedly Bulldozer is an architectural leap beyond Nehalim.... whether it will materialize before Intel makes yet another advance is the real question.
How much power does any one of us really need? I mean this is a ridiculously powerful processor for most tasks. So it might take a few more seconds doing a video job here or a few frames off a game set on killer than the best Intel piece.
Do we really want AMD to go away? Not if we like decent prices and continued improvement.
If AMD dies, we lose a lot more than just an alternative.
I always try to buy and promote AMD and will do so until they get more of a footing against a huge and very, very good Intel. I have yet to be dissappointed with any AMD products in the recent past.
@Pootie Tang: There's no need to apologize for AMD when they clearly bested intel on some of the tests.
They are competitive for the moment, and the review says so, but points out that they will need to make further architectural improvements to stay competitive, as intel is already set on an easier performance growth path.
Where everyone seems to be missing the point... And AMD for that matter...
Processors these days are about POWER CONSUMPTION - not clock speed. Who gives 2 dicks if your processor clocks at 4 Ghz if it takes a small coal plant to run the bitch.
AMD keeps losing the performance-per-watt game with intel and it doesn't seem like its going to change any time soon - but here's hoping.. I'd love to see some genuine competition again.
@squish123: That really depends on whether you're talking about a laptop or a desktop. If you're planning to run it on batteries, then absolutely you want to keep power consumption low, but for a desktop...not so much. Not when you're talking about people who fill their case with light systems and hook up all kinds of crazy USB devices just because they = fun.
CO2 sublimation - that's a fancy way of saying dry ice. So, if you happen to have a ready supply of dry ice, you can turn it up to 11. Those of us who don't have dry ice will have to keep it to more rational speeds. How far can we crank an Intel chip w/ a block of dry ice sitting atop the heat sinks? I'm thinking that real world applications of the dry ice cooling system are going to be pretty limited.
@rexplex: Ever hear what it sounds like when you drop a coin on a block of dry ice? I'm not sure I'd want to have it actually sitting _on_ the heat-sink.
At this point I can use photoshop on my laptop while other programs are open. That was my power criteria.
I'm not saying there arent users who need more power, but I can't help but feel that there is a tremendous amount of effort is being wasted on the top .5% of "power-users".
@Shub-Niggurath: I agree. At some point, it's more about marketing the numbers than the actual benefit for the majority of users. At the same time, I wouldn't turn down a 5GHz proc in a desktop, so long as I was sure it wouldn't burst into flames or cost me a great deal more, because, well....the number marketing is better than I thought :S
But right now, an older 32-bit 2GHz Core Duo is still running well for me, even with CS2 running through Rosetta emulation.
@Shub-Niggurath: That's just downright ignorant. I'm personally looking forward to the new things we'll be able to do with computers in the next 10 years or so. Things we wouldn't have been able to do with less processing power. But by all means, live in your bubble where photoshop and some other random program are all you need.
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In fact I JUST built twin Core i7 gaming systems this past weekend for my bro-in law and I running Windows 7 64 too!
I've always sworn by Intel CPUs and chipsets for their reliability, but my mind is blown with the Core i7.
Newegg actually GAVE AWAY AMD CPUs with our orders!
Now I have three of these "brisbane" things sitting around taking up space.
So anyway, good luck.
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Do we really want AMD to go away? Not if we like decent prices and continued improvement.
If AMD dies, we lose a lot more than just an alternative.
I always try to buy and promote AMD and will do so until they get more of a footing against a huge and very, very good Intel. I have yet to be dissappointed with any AMD products in the recent past.
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They are competitive for the moment, and the review says so, but points out that they will need to make further architectural improvements to stay competitive, as intel is already set on an easier performance growth path.
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Processors these days are about POWER CONSUMPTION - not clock speed. Who gives 2 dicks if your processor clocks at 4 Ghz if it takes a small coal plant to run the bitch.
AMD keeps losing the performance-per-watt game with intel and it doesn't seem like its going to change any time soon - but here's hoping.. I'd love to see some genuine competition again.
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That really depends on whether you're talking about a laptop or a desktop. If you're planning to run it on batteries, then absolutely you want to keep power consumption low, but for a desktop...not so much. Not when you're talking about people who fill their case with light systems and hook up all kinds of crazy USB devices just because they = fun.
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So, if you happen to have a ready supply of dry ice, you can turn it up to 11.
Those of us who don't have dry ice will have to keep it to more rational speeds.
How far can we crank an Intel chip w/ a block of dry ice sitting atop the heat sinks?
I'm thinking that real world applications of the dry ice cooling system are going to be pretty limited.
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Ever hear what it sounds like when you drop a coin on a block of dry ice? I'm not sure I'd want to have it actually sitting _on_ the heat-sink.
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I'm not saying there arent users who need more power, but I can't help but feel that there is a tremendous amount of effort is being wasted on the top .5% of "power-users".
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But right now, an older 32-bit 2GHz Core Duo is still running well for me, even with CS2 running through Rosetta emulation.
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