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i believe congress should not take a x-mas break and attend to things of importance! a new law should be brought in front of both the house and the senate and passed immediately. any and all staff of a tech blog should have the free will to buy non-apple products if they so choose to! Im tired of tech blog writers being forced to buy, unwillingly, apple products and being forced to like them for fear of retribution or loss of hipster status. like the whistle blower laws enacted beforehand, this new law should be called the ringtone raid, and allow minorities alike (google, etc.) to break into the hipster empire w/ programs such as affirmative action for smartphones, only on a more longterm and intimate basis. Furthermore, there will be no tolerance for backlash from those that choose to sit on steve jobs' cock and pedal his balls.
Virtually none of the companies on your list of options is even available in Japan. I use a Toshiba phone (when I first came to Japan, I was surprised to learn that they made phones).
@redman042: The only rumors that held up to any scrutiny that would count as "game-changing" involved pricing, and we have yet to hear about that.
If Google offers it at around $200 without a contract, that could spark some interest in folks not having a contract (which would shake up the industry). It's not a terribly implausible plan since T-Mobile, Google's go-to partner for their Android test runs, just started hyping their Even More Plus plans that are slightly cheaper if you buy the phone up front and then you have no contract.
And, I suppose there's nothing saying an AT&T (or other carriers) version isn't coming. But the FCC filing for this phone didn't indicate anything but T-Mo.
Replacing my G1 with better hardware interests me greatly, but I've never really taken a shine to the soft keyboard, whether it be Android or the iPhone.
Maybe I'll bite it and grab a Nexus One, but what I really want to see on T-Mo is an updated G1 or a Droid with a better keyboard.
Multitouch? I could really care less. The functionality is there, it's just not built into any US handsets. I'm sure our fine European neighbors will get a nice Nexus One with multitouch, and all power to them.
@atrus123: My wife didn't want an iPhone because it lacked a keyboard, despite my protest. So I bought her an HTC Tilt2 for Christmas instead, to replace her BlackJack II.
And that's probably more information than you needed.
@atrus123: I think the key to remember here is that we don't know when it's coming out. It went through FCC but Google is being very hush hush about it. When it actually does, it's on T-Mobile which to me is a little bit of a bummer.
@seldomused: Don't be too bummed. It seems that T-Mo likes to release 1.0 Android devices (like the G1 and now the Nexus One). I'm sure it won't be long until we see Nexus Two through Six on other networks, as per the Blade Runner Android models. Maybe one of those will get a keyboard.
Also, I should revise my first statement in the thread to say that multitouch is built into US handsets, just not the native Google apps. I have several Android apps on the market and have experimented with multitouch on the G1, but never had a good reason to release anything with multitouch support.
@atrus123: I hear you. Though the G1 and its KB orientation is what adds to me using the harsware one mostly. Since this screen is wider, I think it will not be a problem, for me personally. PLUS, there are some voice to text apps, which are convenience, but certainly not a replacement for a physical kb. Though, screen size, speed and features is what will make me move on to something like this. I will likely keep my G1 around as a backup.. its a sentimental piece :)
@seldomused: I think it will comeout to the Tmo nedwok first as a locked device and subsidized at 199. Then perhaps a bit later, unlocked sold directly from goog (sold for 399). That is just my opinion though!
@Hearthatvoiceagain: ya, oh no.. no pinch zoom lol ... though if you goto her blog, in the comments, she clearly says a few times that its capable just not in google's software... some big info there left out haha
@Kat Hannaford: Oh I know a few of you are, but this site does give a very strong appearance of Iphone fanboism ... I honestly wouldn't of guessed you were a Android user though from the original blog post
@vinterchaos: No it doesnt. I am so sick of hearing this bullshit. Your conspiracy theories are unfounded and stupid. The sad thing is EVERY tech site you go to, there is some group of morons who are saying the exact same thing as you about the writers of that tech site.
Maybe you should stop and think about what is really wrong with your thought process that you would be one of thousands of people with the same ridiculously stupid theory.
Maybe you should accept that Apple makes a nice smartphone that people like.... Rear back your fanboy/anti-apple horse for a second and think about how silly it sounds.
And also dont put your blinders on when you read the tons of great reviews for other phones on this site, but seem to forget about them so you can soapbox about how its not fair that everyone loves apple and nobody loves my xxxxx gadget.
Sorry for the rant, but you can only read so much of this garbage before it really starts to annoy you.
@Kat Hannaford: sure there's plenty wrong with everything in life. I just thought the original title was misleading, and that some tidbits of info was left out, thats all.. you fixed it, kudos!
@Kat Hannaford: I couldn't care less about multitouch, I'm just glad to see some better Android-powered hardware creeping toward T-Mobile. My G1 is still great (people love seeing what it can do) but I want more power. I'm very happy to see a Giz editor who is an Android user and, more importantly, doesn't seem insanely biased in one direction or the other. I love Android, but when it (or the hardware) sucks or is lacking, I want to know about it.
@OCEntertainment: Im glad you started the slow clap. It hasnt made it to us yet here in texas, but im sure it will, unless apple comes in and makes a better clap and then gizmodo will be all like "imma let you finish, but Apple's slow clap is the best slow clap in the world!"
Yeah i took it there, cause you werent willing to.
@vinterchaos: Dont take my post as angry buddy. Just annoyed by the constant conspiracy theories.
If i was angry i would say fuck a bunch and probably get banned. Instead im elated to be able to help you lead a better fuller life of gadget appreciation.
@NorwoodIsMyHero: My post has nothing to do with me being a fanboy. It has everything to do with insane tinfoil hat conspiracies that apple is paying every blog in existence.
Sure its easy to tell i like apple gear, but there is plenty of other gear i like also, and at my job i have to support a glut of different devices, some i like and some i want to run over with the forklift. I do find it interesting you mention perspective in this debate, because that is exactly the problem. Narrow minded perspective.
@vinterchaos: My gadget appreciation comment was in jest, as most of my comments are.
I am glad your wife has an iPhone and would be glad if she had a droid, that wasn't the issue at hand. If i offended anyone in any way with my rant, i apologize for that.
I just see that same thing every day, it gets old, like seeing the stories about death panels, except here i can comment on how ludicrous it is.
@Eulatos: Narrow minded perspective indeed. My perspective is so narrow that I can't find anywhere in this thread where anyone said Apple was paying Gizmodo to be iPhone fanboys, or where anyone posted any conspiracy theory-esque rants regarding it.
Seriously though, if blog comments about Gizmodo's obvious love of the iPhone (which is fine) bother you this much, maybe its time to rethink things a bit. They are after all, just blog comments.
@NorwoodIsMyHero: Obviously THIS TIME nobody said those exact words. So it definitely never ever happened ever. And the subject is certainly not just an extension of the exact same subject.
Bury your head in the sand all you like, but the fact of the matter is this is not an uncommon statement on all tech blogs that even run a small amount of apple stories.
@Eulatos: This thread was the only one I'm referring to. Maybe if you would be more careful in your reading of my comments you would see that.
I'm not burying my head in the sand. I've read the same comments about Apple paying blogs you are referring to. I just ignore them with a bemused smirk. What I'm saying is that if these things bother you so much maybe your letting trolls and conspiracy theorists get the best of you.
People who post those insane conspiracy theories about Apple paying bloggers are either trolling for fanboys and don't really believe them, or are so idiotic as to believe they're true. In either case the best thing to do is ignore them, and its most certainly the best thing to do not to let them bother you.
Otherwise you end up ranting at someone who just called called Gizmodo editors iPhone fans and questioned their bias, which is not unreasonable. It may not be true, but its not unreasonable either.
@NorwoodIsMyHero: Aye you are right. I definitely flew off the hinge a little and for that i apologize. I think a good amount of my ire came from having just ended a very similar discussion over at where gadget news goes to be stomped on by idiots: Engadget.com.
Again, I apologize for targeting vinterchaos, but i still stand by the assertion that while the editors of gizmodo may be apple fans i dont see this huge bias that people talk about. I do see an increasing love for android as the minutes tick by, which is a-ok with me.
So ill settle down, you will settle down, this whole damn blog is out of order..... And ill try not to be an unhinged pig feeding gangster about all this. :)
@Eulatos: "Where gadget news goes to be stopmed by idiots."
Nice.
I don't really see a strong bias myself and I kind of have a sour taste from Apple in my mouth right now. I recently worked in a company where people who shouldn't have been spending as much as they were on MBPs and iPhones had the audacity to complain about their wages when they would have been able to do everything they needed to do with $300 netbooks and dumbphones.
I do think bias could be here at Gizmodo in some small way, but its basically impossible to prove, which is why throwing about accusations of bias is pointless.
Multitouch? pshhh... Google has been collecting data on us for so long that the phone just anticipates what we want whenever we pick it up. Even the buttons it does have are like the crosswalk buttons, they're there to give you the impression that you are in control of something.
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If Google offers it at around $200 without a contract, that could spark some interest in folks not having a contract (which would shake up the industry). It's not a terribly implausible plan since T-Mobile, Google's go-to partner for their Android test runs, just started hyping their Even More Plus plans that are slightly cheaper if you buy the phone up front and then you have no contract.
And, I suppose there's nothing saying an AT&T (or other carriers) version isn't coming. But the FCC filing for this phone didn't indicate anything but T-Mo.
We'll see, I guess.
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(Multitouch in some other apps would be nice though, particularly musical ones and games.)
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Replacing my G1 with better hardware interests me greatly, but I've never really taken a shine to the soft keyboard, whether it be Android or the iPhone.
Maybe I'll bite it and grab a Nexus One, but what I really want to see on T-Mo is an updated G1 or a Droid with a better keyboard.
Multitouch? I could really care less. The functionality is there, it's just not built into any US handsets. I'm sure our fine European neighbors will get a nice Nexus One with multitouch, and all power to them.
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And that's probably more information than you needed.
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Also, I should revise my first statement in the thread to say that multitouch is built into US handsets, just not the native Google apps. I have several Android apps on the market and have experimented with multitouch on the G1, but never had a good reason to release anything with multitouch support.
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a) It matters to most people.
b) It won't be hacked within 30 seconds of release.
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Maybe you should stop and think about what is really wrong with your thought process that you would be one of thousands of people with the same ridiculously stupid theory.
Maybe you should accept that Apple makes a nice smartphone that people like.... Rear back your fanboy/anti-apple horse for a second and think about how silly it sounds.
And also dont put your blinders on when you read the tons of great reviews for other phones on this site, but seem to forget about them so you can soapbox about how its not fair that everyone loves apple and nobody loves my xxxxx gadget.
Sorry for the rant, but you can only read so much of this garbage before it really starts to annoy you.
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maybe you should stop and think about what is really wrong with your life and maybe your blood pressure won't go up so high over minute things.
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Now that you have won, what do you think you are going to do next?
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Yeah i took it there, cause you werent willing to.
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If i was angry i would say fuck a bunch and probably get banned. Instead im elated to be able to help you lead a better fuller life of gadget appreciation.
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my life of gadget appreciation is fine, my wife has an iphone and i'm glad she does, I play games on it when she makes me visit her boring ass family
but just for the sake of you stopping, you are absolutely correct, you have enlightened me, thank you!
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Sure its easy to tell i like apple gear, but there is plenty of other gear i like also, and at my job i have to support a glut of different devices, some i like and some i want to run over with the forklift. I do find it interesting you mention perspective in this debate, because that is exactly the problem. Narrow minded perspective.
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I am glad your wife has an iPhone and would be glad if she had a droid, that wasn't the issue at hand. If i offended anyone in any way with my rant, i apologize for that.
I just see that same thing every day, it gets old, like seeing the stories about death panels, except here i can comment on how ludicrous it is.
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Seriously though, if blog comments about Gizmodo's obvious love of the iPhone (which is fine) bother you this much, maybe its time to rethink things a bit. They are after all, just blog comments.
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Bury your head in the sand all you like, but the fact of the matter is this is not an uncommon statement on all tech blogs that even run a small amount of apple stories.
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I'm not burying my head in the sand. I've read the same comments about Apple paying blogs you are referring to. I just ignore them with a bemused smirk. What I'm saying is that if these things bother you so much maybe your letting trolls and conspiracy theorists get the best of you.
People who post those insane conspiracy theories about Apple paying bloggers are either trolling for fanboys and don't really believe them, or are so idiotic as to believe they're true. In either case the best thing to do is ignore them, and its most certainly the best thing to do not to let them bother you.
Otherwise you end up ranting at someone who just called called Gizmodo editors iPhone fans and questioned their bias, which is not unreasonable. It may not be true, but its not unreasonable either.
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Again, I apologize for targeting vinterchaos, but i still stand by the assertion that while the editors of gizmodo may be apple fans i dont see this huge bias that people talk about. I do see an increasing love for android as the minutes tick by, which is a-ok with me.
So ill settle down, you will settle down, this whole damn blog is out of order..... And ill try not to be an unhinged pig feeding gangster about all this. :)
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So take that!
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Nice.
I don't really see a strong bias myself and I kind of have a sour taste from Apple in my mouth right now. I recently worked in a company where people who shouldn't have been spending as much as they were on MBPs and iPhones had the audacity to complain about their wages when they would have been able to do everything they needed to do with $300 netbooks and dumbphones.
I do think bias could be here at Gizmodo in some small way, but its basically impossible to prove, which is why throwing about accusations of bias is pointless.
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