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    Image of crackel crackel
    02:59 AM

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    This is a smart move by Verizon. Facts aside, att's lawsuit is generating publicity, and it would be foolish to not ride this wave.

    All I want is for att to invest some capital into its network, but what's the point, they'll have to come up with something faster in the near future.
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    Edited by crackel at 11/09/09 3:03 AM crackel was starred crackel was unstarred
    Image of RoofCoffeeCup RoofCoffeeCup
    11/08/09

    In reply to Specialized DVR For Cars Could Make Teens Better Drivers
    I'd love to get a DVR for the cars I ride on. I want to be able to post peoples reaction to me. #cars
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    Image of snitch snitch
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    I have to admit, they're cute. What's really got Verizon execs losing sleep at night is how, AT&T being the shitty carrier that they are, they manage to grab 3 million New iphone customers in just 1 quarter. #3g
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    crackel promoted this comment snitch was starred snitch was unstarred
    Image of seizurelitezrfun seizurelitezrfun
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    Good job, Verizon. Now don't let these get too extreme and annoying like Apple's Mac vs. PC commercials. #3g
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    Nathan Obbards promoted this comment seizurelitezrfun was starred seizurelitezrfun was unstarred
    Image of Rob Rob
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    As stated on Engadget:

    "Here's what that ad does not tell you.

    Verizon uses EV-DO Rev A for data, which is the 3rd generation of CDMA. It's not even a true 3g technology, 3g is defined as wcdma, or UMTS. It allows download speeds of 600 kbit/s to 1.4 Mbit/s and uploading speeds of 500-800 kbit/s.

    AT&T uses UMTS, a.k.a. WCDMA, and allows download speeds of 7.2 Mbit/s, with theoritical speeds of 21mbits/s. This is the network shown on the ad's in question and is in most major metro area's right now and still growing.

    If you do not have a 3G connection with AT&T you're on the EDGE network. The EDGE network allows download speeds of 400kbit/s to 1.0 mbit/s which is available in over 1.75 million square miles and reaches 256 million people in the united states.

    So, in short:

    Verizon: 600kb to 1.4mb almost everywhere in the US
    AT&T: 400kb to 1.0 mb almost everywhere in the US and 7.2mb UMTS HSPDA 3G in most major cities. And, with AT&T you can simultaneously do data and voice while in 3g coverage. With Verizon you cannot.

    So Verizon is slamming AT&T trying to compare a "3G technology" to AT&T's "3G Network" when Verizon's "3G" data rate speeds is only 200kb to 400kb faster than AT&T's "2G" network?"
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    crackel promoted this comment Edited by Rob at 11/08/09 9:26 PM Rob was starred Rob was unstarred
    Image of junglemindstate junglemindstate
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    interestingly enough, i've been using a first gen (2g) iphone since it came out and i've been browsing the web and using the cell connectivity to be productive online. but all of a sudden it's 3g or nothing? screw you verizon, i'll take 2g coverage over your customer service, gouging prices, and excessive bloatware and branding. and most importantly, i'll be using the device i want to use instead of some half-assed ripoff just because your misleading ads about coverage tried to scare me away from at&t.
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    tande04 promoted this comment junglemindstate was starred junglemindstate was unstarred
    Image of alek2407 alek2407
    11/08/09

    @junglemindstate:

    They have pretend 3g, verizon 3g is about as good as the 2g your getting (you get 1Mbps, they get 3Mbps).

    Att 2g coverage is about equal to verizon '3g'. While true 3g (at 7+Mbps) is limited as it is very new to america #3g
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    tande04 promoted this comment alek2407 was starred alek2407 was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/08/09

    @alek2407: 3G has nothing to do with 7+Mbps or not.
    A. Thats just one form of HSDPA. Its all a 3G technology. By that logic T-mobile must be rolling out 4G with their 21Mbps coverage.
    B. Find me in the real world where you're actually getting the theoretical limits. EV-DO Rev. A tops out (theoretically) at 3.1 which is the same as 3.1's theoretical max. BGR did a (decisively non-scientific) study a while back and found that most aren't getting anywhere near the theoretical limits. VZW's EV-DO rev A. hit 701kbps and AT&T got 933. A difference but not really a major one. #3g
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials

    Someone in Verizon's Marketing dept. is getting some coal this year. And by coal I mean huge fraking bonus. #3g
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    AmishJohn promoted this comment FriarNurgle was starred FriarNurgle was unstarred
    Image of The Overmind (aka that guy) The Overmind (aka that guy)
    11/08/09

    In reply to Engineer Builds $10 DIY Cellphone Microscope
    *ring* *ring*
    "Yes sweety, I DID get a vasectomy that time long ago!"
    "Yes...yes I did, no, no, I didn't chicken out"
    "You don't believe me? Ok, give me a sec"
    *fap fap fap*
    *click*
    "There, I just sent you a pic, see? no swimmers!" #cellphones
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    Image of grok666 grok666
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    I have an idea... Use a cell phone for voice and occasional text messages, and better suited devices for web surfing and stop whining about coverage forever? #3g
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    Image of nukee nukee
    11/08/09

    @grok666: Because nobody uses wireless 3G to browse the web on their laptops while on the road. #3g
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    Image of grok666 grok666
    11/08/09

    @nukee: Yeah... never find wi-fi at hotels, airports, fast food joints, coffee shops, book stores, or 1,000's of other places on the road...for free or cheap and reliable. #3g
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    Image of nukee nukee
    11/08/09

    @grok666: And what about the countless other places that don't have WiFi? You might not have a use for 3G wireless but clearly plenty of other people do.
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    tande04 promoted this comment Edited by nukee at 11/08/09 7:38 PM nukee was starred nukee was unstarred
    Image of grok666 grok666
    11/08/09

    @nukee: Fair enuf... But if I'm in Bumfuck Egypt I don't expect my cell phone to work either... Not a lot of reasons for a cell company to put a tower in the middle of 200 sq miles of cornfield. #3g
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    Image of nukee nukee
    11/08/09

    @grok666: Good point. But in the name of technological progress, it's better to have it there and rarely used than not be there at all. #3g
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    Image of cartman1uy cartman1uy
    11/08/09

    In reply to Engineer Builds $10 DIY Cellphone Microscope
    This will lead to tweets like: "i just coughed up some goop. does this look like streptococcus to anyone?" #cellphones
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    lostarchitect promoted this comment cartman1uy was starred cartman1uy was unstarred
    Image of Dancing Milkcarton Dancing Milkcarton
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    As an unapologetic Apple fan (and iPhone lover), I say keep giving AT&T hell. Their coverage and dropped call rate in Cincinnati is outrageous. The second the iPhone is available on Verizon (or the Android improves to near iPhone quality/security), I'm jumping. #3g
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    Image of PN - gooapplesoft PN - gooapplesoft
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    haha good thinking to release these before the law suit went into full effect.

    none the less this is a shity ultimatum... nice phone or good signal. ill be with the one to deliver both. that is as soon as my 2 year contract ends.
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    tande04 promoted this comment Edited by PN - gooapplesoft at 11/08/09 5:47 PM PN - gooapplesoft was starred PN - gooapplesoft was unstarred
    Image of spider2544 spider2544
    11/08/09

    In reply to Engineer Builds $10 DIY Cellphone Microscope
    this guy needs to d a ted lecture now. #cellphones
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    Image of GeekyWarrior GeekyWarrior
    11/08/09

    @spider2544: sent in from a phone eh? #cellphones
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    Shamoononon: I shave my legs. promoted this comment GeekyWarrior was starred GeekyWarrior was unstarred
    Image of Vroomtrap Vroomtrap
    11/08/09

    In reply to Verizon Wireless Launches Three More Anti-AT&T 3G Network Commercials
    That third commercial cracked me up. #3g
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    TheSonOfKrypton promoted this comment Vroomtrap was starred Vroomtrap was unstarred
    Image of ilovexspin ilovexspin
    11/08/09

    In reply to Engineer Builds $10 DIY Cellphone Microscope
    This is the only DIY I'd actually DIM, except it's the one DIY without instructions.
    Great. #cellphones
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