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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Press Ctrl Alt Delete!
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    How well is Apple's multitouch table working?
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    01/12/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: Great. It's running Steve's pancreas.
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    Image of axed axed
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Uh...it is running beta software, failure to acknowledge that = the real fail.
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @axed: @burnblue: I can't remember how many times we've seen in life, whether dramatized or real, people who stand at the sidelines of life just waiting for others to fail. Descent human beings generally find that sort of behavior deplorable. Beyond that though, I can't condemn enough those who can't even control their eagerness to accuse someone of failing to the point that they'll jump up out of the crowd before anyone else and yell "look! look!".


    I guess that's all I have to say on the matter but I am looking forward to getting a tablet can put on my living room table so I hope surface technology has all the kinks worked out by the time it hits the market.

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    Image of GiltProto GiltProto
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    I sure hope a Microsoft Surface desk won't force me to have such a messy desk top.
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @GiltProto: LOL! That's what I always tell people about my cubical area... the job made it messy... not me :)
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    Image of hnkelley hnkelley
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    I'm always amused by a good error pic!


    The problem MS needs to work on is their imprecise error messages. Sure, the 'Touch' software stop working. But, as the error says, some program caused it. WHAT program? If we were told these things by an informative error message, we might (MIGHT) find that many of these errors we harass MS about are caused by other companies' software. (Yes, sure, the OS shouldn't allow certain Bad Things (tm) to happen, but you can't stop all of it.)


    Now, back to laughing...

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    Image of seizure seizure
    01/10/09

    @hnkelley:


    The program that stopped working is TouchTV.Surface. The error message says a problem has caused the program (TouchTV.Surface) to stop working.


    MS has always given pretty verbose error messages, especially in the event logs. The actual problem is people not knowing how to read and assuming that any error is always an OS error.

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    Image of mattattaxx mattattaxx
    01/10/09

    @seizure:


    They used to have so much detail that people just ignored them. If they make it more technical or less technical people will bitch.

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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @mattattaxx: That's because it's popular to bitch at MS. It doesn't take a lot of understanding to figure out who to bitch at but the level of understanding required is still more then 90% of people are willing to accept.


    Remember, this is a world where racism still exists between every group and religion. Honestly, that demands less understanding and many of us still can't get it.

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    Image of Manuel Zubiaur Manuel Zubiaur
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Abort, Retry, Fail?


    F

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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @Manuel Zubiaur: LOL... I remember those errors! I haven't seen them in years :)


    Was it always that though or was it Ignore, Retry, Abort? My memory is foggy :(

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    Image of UnexpectedEOF UnexpectedEOF
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Looks like TouchTV's driver failed. They provided the surface displays for the demo.


    [www.touchtvnetworks.com]

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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @UnexpectedEOF: @Mio: You seem to show more understanding then the site :) That's really something to be proud of... well not understand is definitely something to be embarrassed about.
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    Image of rimplestultskin, macberry fanboy rimplestultskin, macberry fanboy
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    hahahahahahahahahah.


    although i'm pretty sure microsoft has had program errors before at trade shows, so humorous as this is, it isn't any sign of the apocolypse.


    and in my humble opinion, MS should just use the xbox 360's OS as the basis for all their software....in my house, there's an xbox 360 that always works, no matter what, a bunch of PCs that occasionally work, and a bunch of iPod-owning kids who laugh at their zune-owning friends on a daily basis.

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    Image of Brazell Brazell
    01/10/09

    @rimplestultskin, macberry fanboy: I'm no Microsoft trasher... but y'know, the X-Box 360 has more failures in recent history than any consumer device that I can think of.
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    Image of OfficerMike OfficerMike
    01/11/09

    @MichaelBrazell: Hardware failures, not software.
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @rimplestultskin, macberry fanboy: Well think about it this way. When games that you play on your xbox stop working or have bugs or even crash, surely you don't say that the xbox os is broken right?
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @MichaelBrazell: The actual software is extremely solid. The hardware however has had a history of failure do to inefficient power usage design of the GPU. The newer 65nm chips will hopefully fix this problem as they use almost half the power.
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    Image of imTheKing imTheKing
    01/11/09

    @OfficerMike: @okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): That does not excuse the fact that they built a skimpy product that screwed up the experience for millions. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that the software itself is solid, but what good is it when the hardware is horrible. Everyone should be demanding more from the providers of these products, people shouldn't be passive about big faults.
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @imTheKing: No one is excusing anything... just correcting misdirected anger. If someone is going to bitch about something not working to the manufacture.. it's just as important that they bitch at the right thing. Microsoft is doing a superb job on the 360 software and the hardware design is even commendable as any developer will attest to. They've made a serious misstep on the manufacturing of the 360 and even though it hasn't affected me, it's affected enough people to warrant all the bitching in the world. It's good that they seem to be getting a handle on it but I'd like more than a three year warranty on something they know has significant issues. No one is really being passive about the matter. Think of it this way... the things they did on Xbox 360 is JUST THAT GOOD. It's like a hot wife who can't cook.
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    Image of Neone Neone
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Does that mean you cannot tap it with your finger but really plugin a mouse or something?


    Also, the Surface doesn't have anti-virus (as seen bottom right) and runs on windows 7.

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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @Neone: Surface is not an OS so t shouldn't "have" an anti-virus I figure :/


    I don't think that the input has stopped working though. The actual touch screen or motion monitoring part of the OS is what's really really responsible for input information so that doesn't die because a user-mode program did.

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    Image of LordGriffin LordGriffin
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Eventually, all these public error messages MIGHT hammer home the point that they need to stop working on "new innovative features" long enough to fix the freakin' core program for once!!
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    Image of rackley rackley
    01/10/09

    @LordGriffin: In case you didn't bother to read the error message, it was a problem with the app, not the OS. And considering it all BETA software, I hardly think an error or app crash is the end of the world.
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @rackley: I wonder if people would just like it better if the OS just didn't report application errors.
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    01/11/09

    @okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under): Then how will we know when to switch to a mac?
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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @--Tito--: I'm sure Mac software is free of bugs and the OS is perfect and nonrestrictive but I'm sure we can agree that it's not for everyone.


    I got things done in XP and am loving Vista (while looking forward to 7). I used to be a graphics designer in a past life and used a Mac at work for years and then stopped cold turkey when I left my job to go back to school, 6 years later I used OS X for the first time and came to the conclusion that if I kept at it that I could learn to get things done on the Mac but the fact that I would have to give up so much freedom and I didn't have the time made me pass on the prospect. The brief period I used it felt so unnatural, it left me feeling frustrated more then anything else.


    ...like I said: It's not for everyone.

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    Image of Moordryd Moordryd
    01/10/09

    In reply to As Seen at CES: Microsoft Surface Fail [UPDATED]
    Ha, it's like the BSODs on huge-screen, public televisions.


    Whatevs, The Surface still rocks.

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    Image of okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under) okenny :) ...building bridges (to hide under)
    01/11/09

    @Moordryd: WOW... just wow.
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