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    No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From

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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    07/15/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    -is this about piracy or him not remembering to leave his phone in the car at an event that clearly discourages them?



    Just wanna be clear here.



    Piracy is bad, but if the rules are always the same about phones at screenings then I don't see the issue here.



    Why would you have a phone at a theater anyway?



    I don't bring inappropriate items to events that discourage them, nor should others.



    It seems like the issues are being mixed here.
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    Image of fleebailey33 fleebailey33
    07/15/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    They will never learn, or at least it seems they never will. If someone was going to pay for the movie, then they will. MPAA doesn't loose money for every movie downloaded, mainly if people couldn't download it they would go on without out. Same thinking the RIAA has for saying ever downloaded song is a lost sale. Taking cell phones isn't helping anything but pissing off the people who actually went to see the movie.



    Remember wolverine that was leaked and how MPAA was claiming it cost them millions? Well they shut the heck up when the movie did really well.



    Almost everyone I speak with supports artists, movies, programmers who they use and appreciate, and buy the album when it comes out, even if they downloaded it for free.



    Try not pissing off your customers.
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    07/15/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    They actually did have a DRM system for screeners that was very tight-- you had a special DVD player, and the disc that you got would only work in that player.



    The problem is that the people getting the screeners didn't want to be limited to just the one player-- they wanted to be able to watch it on a laptop, or at their ski lodge, etc.



    In other words, they had the same problem that all us normal folks have with DRM-- they didn't want to be told how they had to watch the movie.



    They also have the ability to watermark individual DVDs, and the watermarks are supposed to survive any encoding that you throw at them, but I can only think of one case where they actually busted someone for piracy using the watermarks.



    All digitally projected movies carry similar invisible watermarks, but that just tells you where and when it was stolen. If it was a casual cammer, that won't help you nail them. You can bet that if an employee is regularly camming at their theater, they're going to know not to cam the digital presentations.
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    07/15/09

    @pagan_god: Many torrenters will blur the water marks. I've also HEARD(not seen, as that would be illegal ;D ) about videos that will cut out the watermarked areas of the film, so you will get scene jumps.
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    Image of Benguin Benguin
    07/15/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    What are you talking about? That copy of Dark Knight that I saw recorded off someone's RAZR was superb.
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    07/14/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    I think I have a good idea who is running Hollywood. Movies get to the internet magically!
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    07/15/09

    @TheStateOnDVD2Day_GitEmSteveDa...: my speakers were off when I hit play. Yet it didn't seem to matter...
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    07/15/09

    @Scrum: It didn't. I'll sum it up for ya. Boobs... Boobs... "Magic"... That's about it.
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    07/15/09

    @TheStateOnDVD2Day_GitEmSteveDa...: Ahhhhhhh the ta ta's...
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    07/14/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    This is why it pisses me off so much that Canada has recently been getting seriously bad press over piracy when its the movie studios themselves that are leaking them unintentionally. Then pay off OUR politicians to pass laws to try and make stricter antipiracy laws here.



    Ask anyone who actually visits sites like TPB etc who download movies, most of the movies are either Screeners (aka, leaked internally) or filmed in a russian theatre (with russian subtitles).



    Another thing, alot of cammed recordings are not done by random joe public. They are usually done by someone working for a theatre. You can tell this is true when the audio is great and dosnt match the video, its when they plug in the input into the theatres speaker system or get the audio after filming.
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    07/15/09

    @Scazza: The good audio is usually pulled from Drive In's. Since the sound is piped into the cars, they just record it that way. You will notice there may be many different versions of the same film b/c people will mix different audio sources with the same video and re-encode it for the best quality they can.
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    07/14/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    Or just like the music industry, they could realize it creates interest in their movie if it's a good one.
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    Image of Hiphopopotamus Hiphopopotamus
    07/14/09

    @NurseDave: Are you suggesting if someone bootlegs a movie and likes it, they are more likely to pay to see it performed live?
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    07/15/09

    @Hiphopopotamus: If it weren't for bootlegs, I would have never even considered plunking down the cash for The Dark Knight on Ice.
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    07/14/09

    In reply to No Surprise: Hollywood Doesn't Understand Where Pirated Movies Come From
    THAT'S what a screener is? I always thought a screener was the cam version. Wow, I feel like such a noob
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    01/28/09

    In reply to AT&T and Comcast Agree to Do the RIAA's Dirty Work
    As a consumer of legally purchased content I have nothing to worry about from thi..........
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    01/28/09

    In reply to AT&T and Comcast Agree to Do the RIAA's Dirty Work
    Just have to say I love the graphic with this post. Any chance we can get a list of ISPs that aren't going to participate?
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    01/28/09

    @★ graffiksguru: I thought they were getting rid of self-star gratification here... Interesting.
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    Image of CrispyAardvark CrispyAardvark
    01/28/09

    In reply to AT&T and Comcast Agree to Do the RIAA's Dirty Work
    Commas commandeered on comcast communisim communications confuses commenters completely.


    ...Meanwhile back on topic..


    I pay for all my software and media files so I'm not fussed at all.

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    01/28/09

    @CrispyAardvark: All my software is registered in my state.


    Which state is that?


    The state of siege!

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    01/28/09

    In reply to AT&T and Comcast Agree to Do the RIAA's Dirty Work
    I hate to say it but FiOS hasn't done me wrong yet. They let me upload 4 images every two minutes ::comma:: 24/7 ::comma:: and also host the main JerseyCam site.
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    Image of bucho54 bucho54
    01/28/09

    @QuadNipple_GitEmSteveDave: I'm jealous. I still can't get FiOS in my area, and Verizon has no way of giving a time frame. Also, their website now can't even find my address. Maybe they are planning on bulldozing my house to make room for FiOS equipment?
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    01/28/09

    @bucho54: Well, it's mine! It's my precious. And you can't share my bandwidth hobbit-ciz.
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    Image of UnderLoK UnderLoK
    01/28/09

    @No,Comma_GitEmSteveDave: Too bad they have been handing over customer information to the DMCA, RIAA, and Feds under the table w/o a warrant for ages.


    The days are gone of Comcast fighting back for its customers I guess. Don't any of you remember the 90's and early 2000 with them fighting the DMCA, RIAA, and the Feds tooth and nail over customer information? Seriously, they were all about protecting their customers and now after 5 years of people dragging their name in the dirt, abusing their connections, and hating them simply because they are Comcast it has come to this?


    It's absolutely pathetic and it's only going to get worse. As Comcast implements stuff like this the others will follow because they will not be able to compete with the new price points. If the illegal stuff all goes away it will more than likely reduce their usage by 30% and if they cut their prices by even ½ that?


    I think in a few years we will all be wishing that ISPs were still just shaping torrents… This is just the beginning.


    Oh and for the record, I've been with Comcast since their cable internet pilot over 10 years ago. I have yet to have a problem that I didn't create.

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    01/28/09

    @UnderLoK: So wait, you mean they are letting the government look into my house?
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    01/29/09

    @No,Comma_GitEmSteveDave: No, they were and are cooperating with the RIAA, DMCA, and the Feds even when they don't have to.


    The story is about Comcast yanking your connection for illegal activity so I took your comment to mean that Verizon doesn't participate in that kind of action. If that wasn't your point, then I apologize for the massive OT response ;)

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    01/29/09

    @UnderLoK: Oh, ok. Cuz if they wanted to peek into my house, all any of those agencies has to do is fire up JerseyCam, which is the site all of my inhouse cams are featured on.
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    01/28/09

    In reply to AT&T and Comcast Agree to Do the RIAA's Dirty Work
    They're not? Are you sure?
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    01/28/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate: Wow you are right. They were just automagically sucked out of my comment. Weird.
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    01/28/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate: I think it's fixed now, or if not, I'll find out as soon as this posts.
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    01/28/09

    In reply to AT&T and Comcast Agree to Do the RIAA's Dirty Work
    This is a bit off topic so I apologize in advance.


    But why aren't the commas working?

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    01/28/09

    @Jon B.: I don't know so I'm forced to use html code. It's a pain in the butt but it works. I tried reporting it to the bug site but that site is down as well.
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    01/28/09

    @Jon B.:
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    01/28/09

    @QuadNipple_GitEmSteveDave: N/m the comma appears in the preview ::comma:: but even using character code doesn't work.
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    01/28/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Yup no commas...
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    01/28/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: Please everyone know commas are a bag of hurt Gizmodo is on the cutting edge with new "Invisible commas" their like commas but only special people see them.


    You can see the commas.... right?

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
    01/28/09

    @Thats Dr Bear to You: That's what I told my co-workers about my new jeans but they just screamed and ran away. Then I got called to HR.
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    01/28/09

    @Thats Dr Bear to You: It's a sailboat dammit!
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    01/28/09

    @Jon B.: Gizmodo isn't the only Gawker site with the problem. Jezebel is having the same issue.
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    01/28/09

    @Jon B.: Screw commas. As long as I have exclamation points for my name, I'm happy.


    AAAAGH! There is supposed to be a comma after "...for my name" to set it off as a clause. DAMN YOU GIZMODO AND YOUR DECOMMAFIER! DAMN YOU TO HELL!

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    01/28/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate: You dumb bastard! That's not a sailboat, it's a schooner.


    Brenda?

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    01/28/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: But ::comma:: there is a comma there! OMG ::comma:: it's a miracle! Dios Mio!
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    01/28/09

    @Jon B.: Haven't you heard? The commas are on strike today. They are tired of being taken for granted and being generally regarded as inferior to the period.


    They're taking a vacation from punctuation..

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    01/28/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate: They should be worried. Remember when the octothorpes went on strike and Reagan fired them all? And I still get chills when I think about the great tittle revolt.
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    01/28/09

    @No,Comma_GitEmSteveDave: I still can't see it...
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    01/28/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate: Willam eventually saw the sailboat.



    Yeah?

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