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    Image of PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
    12/01/09

    In reply to The Truth About Plasma Screen Burn-In
    This is a great post. I'm currently in the process of looking at a new TV and the recent posts about the best HDTV's along with posts like this one really help to educate me and help me make a better purchase. I was shying away from a plasma just because of things I heard such as burn in but it's good to hear something like this.
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    Image of Hank Scorpio Hank Scorpio
    12/01/09

    In reply to The Truth About Plasma Screen Burn-In
    I don't know about current generation models, but our first HDTV was a plasma (this was about 4 years ago), and after less than a year it was definitely showing signs of burn in. You could see faint impressions of menus and other things that were always displayed in the exact same spot. (This wasn't a low-end, no name TV, either.)

    We finally replaced it with an LCD, due to unrelated issues that couldn't be resolved through warranty repair. (Ended up getting a refund on it after almost a year.)
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    Image of FerroMancer FerroMancer
    12/01/09

    @Hank Scorpio: I have to agree here; this must be an improvement over old technologies. I worked in a NOC where they had server info (a set table, most of the time) up on a plasma monitor. You could see the burned-in image when the screen was OFF. I'm glad they've improved this so much.
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    Hank Scorpio promoted this comment FerroMancer was starred FerroMancer was unstarred
    Image of Hank Scorpio Hank Scorpio
    12/02/09

    @FerroMancer: Actually, I completely forgot about the old (cheap) plasmas that we used to have for running announcements where I work (it was a repeating PowerPoint presentation), and those had really, really bad burn in!
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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    12/01/09

    In reply to The Truth About Plasma Screen Burn-In
    This is good to hear and will help me overcome my dread of watching 4:3 movies on my plasma. Yojimbo on the plasma tonite, baby... TONITE!
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    Image of MrEvil MrEvil
    12/01/09

    In reply to The Truth About Plasma Screen Burn-In
    Not to mention the fact that plasma displays don't leak down over time. Plus, I've seen temporary image persistence on LCDs too. Generally speaking it's always cleared up by changing Desktop background (on a computer monitor) or switching to a dead analog channel on an LCD and let the snow show up fullscreen for a while.
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    12/01/09

    In reply to The Truth About Plasma Screen Burn-In
    Gary is the man.
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    Wilson Rothman promoted this comment FriarNurgle was starred FriarNurgle was unstarred
    Image of Xagest Xagest
    11/27/09

    In reply to Black Friday Deals: The Only List You Need
    Next year, you guys need to put this stuff in a spreadsheet...
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    Image of bornonbord bornonbord
    11/25/09

    In reply to Black Friday Deals List Updated

    Ahhh... now that's better.
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    Image of RuBBa_cHiKiN: The real question is can it fit in the Batmobile? RuBBa_cHiKiN: The real question is can it fit in the Batmobile?
    11/25/09

    @bornonbord: They're coming out with a white Palm Pixi?
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    fakejezuzdiaz promoted this comment RuBBa_cHiKiN: The real question is can it fit in the Batmobile? was starred RuBBa_cHiKiN: The real question is can it fit in the Batmobile? was unstarred
    Image of Shamoononon: I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/25/09

    @bornonbord: I don't like the doo doo brown.
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    Shamoononon: I shave my legs. was starred Shamoononon: I shave my legs. was unstarred
    Image of fakejezuzdiaz fakejezuzdiaz
    11/25/09

    @RuBBa_cHiKiN: The real question is can it fit in the Batmobile?:

    I know, right?!?

    I can't believe that Palm is still firing volleys across the bow of Apple! I'm sure the next update to the iPhone will turn the Pixi back to it's former, black self.

    Will this petty industry bickering never stop?
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    Image of Segador Segador
    11/25/09

    In reply to The 5 Best HDTV Deals Under $1000
    This is exactly what I wanted when you posted your excellent reviews of the best five TVs you can buy. Fantastic article.
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    Image of Jacob Gonzales Jacob Gonzales
    11/25/09

    In reply to The 5 Best HDTV Deals Under $1000
    We are gonna have the Panasonic 50 inch X1 for $499 and the 42in for $449 at heb plus in south texas on black friday
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    dingus promoted this comment Jacob Gonzales was starred Jacob Gonzales was unstarred
    Image of dingus dingus
    11/25/09

    @Jacob Gonzales: Will other HEB+ stores get this? I'm thinking of heading to the one in Kyle...
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    Image of Jakeyjake0080 Jakeyjake0080
    11/25/09

    @dingus: Yeah the other ones should, we got in 6 of the 50 in and were gonna open at 5am, also weve got a 40in samsung 1080p lcd I think its the 500 series and were gonna have that for $599
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    Image of Emulsifide Emulsifide
    11/25/09

    In reply to The 5 Best HDTV Deals Under $1000
    The Panasonic TC-P54S1 (54" screen) can be had for $1099.99 from Sears until this Saturday. Bing Cashback AND 10% off using a Sears credit card can be used as well. If you don't have a Sears card, Bank of America is offering 6% through sears.com and can be combined with Bing Cashback as well.

    Sorry for the double post. I wasn't logged in when I did the first one.
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    Image of slaine17 slaine17
    11/25/09

    @Emulsifide: Sears also had the best price on the 50" S1 a couple months ago - $899, no rebates or special form of payment needed. The price was only listed publicly on the web, but was available in-store if you asked.

    Who would have thought Sears would be the place to go for a good deal on a TV?
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    Image of Emulsifide Emulsifide
    11/25/09

    @slaine17: Yep, I almost bit on that deal. I'm glad I waited. After BoA, BCB, and using some gift cards that I had forgotten about, I grabbed the 54" model for ~$900 yesterday.

    The TV itself is AMAZING compared to my previous Hitachi P50S601. The quality of the image is fantastic and the blacks are super deep. I highly agree with Gary's pick/assessment of this TV.
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    Image of Willravel Willravel
    11/25/09

    In reply to The 5 Best HDTV Deals Under $1000
    G10 ftw. You can get the TCP42G10 for like $900. You can't beat THX.
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    Image of shaggedope shaggedope
    11/25/09

    In reply to Black Friday Ultimate List - Page 3
    What happened to page 2?
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    Image of Kyle VanHemert Kyle VanHemert
    11/25/09

    @shaggedope: Links should be fixed now.
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    Image of Magicant Magicant
    11/23/09

    In reply to Black Friday Deals: The Only List You Need
    No wonder there's so much confusion about where to find the TVs!

    They're inexplicably listed under the "Televisions" category, instead of "Big Video Display Things"
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    Image of --Core-- --Core--
    11/20/09

    In reply to The 5 Best TVs You Can Buy
    Well its good to know my TV would have been on the list if..6 spots had existed.

    Seriously, nice list.
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    Image of alexmg2420 alexmg2420
    11/20/09

    In reply to The 5 Best TVs You Can Buy
    What, no Vizio?
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    crackel promoted this comment alexmg2420 was starred alexmg2420 was unstarred
    Image of crackel crackel
    11/23/09

    @alexmg2420: even though they're not "the best", there's a lot to be said about value.
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    Image of my favorite car is a motorcycle my favorite car is a motorcycle
    11/25/09

    @crackel: not to nitpick, but when making a "best of" list, you ignore the dollar signs.

    ... and if you are making a "best value" list, then you must calculate (total performance + service)/(total lifetime cost). You will find that Vizio's horrible reliability ratings nock it quite far down the value chart too.
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    Image of crackel crackel
    11/25/09

    @my favorite car is a motorcycle: similar top lists coming from that website will sometimes include TV's that are really good looking for a lower price. I see your point, but you can't just ignore dollar signs, we always have to have some regard of value. Otherwise, these lists will turn into the like of audiophile lists where people are paying thousands of dollars for a CD player or special power wires.

    #tips
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    Image of my favorite car is a motorcycle my favorite car is a motorcycle
    11/25/09

    @crackel: not sure what website you're referring to. every smart shopper must assess value based on his own needs, not on some magazine salesman's most recent issue. the dollar sign on day 1 is only one of many variables. If the price tag really was more important than anything else, then you wouldn't be looking for sales at retailers -- you'd stick with garage & estate sales or the classifieds.

    it is always true that undiscerning electronics buyers can find bigger shinier brighter things for cheaper prices than ever before. Sadly, most of these "values" are trashed quicker than ever before because of cheap design and horrid construction.

    "looking good" today doesn't mean it's worth 2 nickels tomorrow. a wise shopper looks at upgradeability, compatibility, warranty, service, and so on, and weighs these performance values every bit as much as how bright the thing is in the loud megastore with harsh fluorescent lighting and uninformed sales staff. most people would be surprised when they visit those overpriced a/v-phile stores where tags don't end with .98, to find really good sale prices on gear that lasts more than one holiday season -- as well as service like free trial periods and other benefits.
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    Image of crackel crackel
    11/26/09

    @my favorite car is a motorcycle: sometimes I wish I could reply to a troll without approving his commenter account and promoting his comment. Not talking about you by the way, since you've already been approved.

    Anyway, back to our conversation, cost is always a concern. Wise shoppers will also assess their risk and return, which involves the cost of the unit and how much they'll get out of it, for example, features and usability.

    As far as no website could ever possibly do that for every shopper out there I completely agree with you. Top-n websites are useless. And this particular site that's referred to in the OP seems like a Panasonic shill to me.
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