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    Image of The Lab The Lab
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    The radio program This American Life has a very good episode about building a better mouse trap.
    TLDR: there will never be a better mousetrap because the current design is cheap, disposable, extremely effective, and currently benefiting from economy of scale. This thing fails on all those fronts.
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    Image of Xagest Xagest
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    The whole plan is foiled when the mouse chews through the wires...
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    Damn. When you said valves and pneumatics, I was hoping for something a little less conventional-mouse-trappy and a little more No-Country-For-Old-Menny.
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    Image of kagekiri kagekiri
    12/15/09

    @beercheck: That's actually what I was expecting too: a sensor and a pneumatic piston that just blows a hole in the mouse/rat.
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    Image of Golf_Nut Golf_Nut
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    I was always a Butch and his son fan personally.

    I prefer the only mousetraps. This one is too quiet. Nothing like hearing that snap to know you got the critter.
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    Image of Odin Odin
    12/15/09

    In reply to Do We Honestly Think People Like Those Below Would Join a Pet Mouse Dating Site?
    Dya think they'd object if I brought my cat? Except rather in one of these tube systems I brought it loaded in a catapult?
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    Image of RainyDayInterns RainyDayInterns
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    All these devices do is select for a smarter mouse...
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    Image of Reil: Lifehacker Ninja Stars Reil: Lifehacker Ninja Stars
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    Wouldn't the laser scare it away?
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    Image of Gary_7vn Gary_7vn
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    If you put a little oil in a fairly large steep sided bottle and some bait (peanut butter is excellent, (mice are not big on cheese) in the bottom, then lean the bottle at a 45 degree angle someplace where the mouse can get in, he won't be able to get out again. You can then release him back into the "wild".
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    Image of orijimi orijimi
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    I was expecting it to surpass a traditional trap in maiming ability, not just detection.
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    Image of Pessimippopotamus Pessimippopotamus
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    If the whole point was to kill a rat or injure it, I'd prefer the sticky patches. Yes. I'd rather see it writhe and die slowly and painfully.
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    Image of Lee Millar Lee Millar
    12/15/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: what a inspiration to the species you are.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    @Pessimippopotamus: When I used to work in a pet shop, one of the white rats we had for feeding pythons got loose and disappeared into the store. It never tore the bags, but it did sneak into cages at night to steal food. We ended up having to lay down sticky traps for it. One day we found one of those traps, gnawed down to about half its original size, with tufts of white hair along the edges. Sonofabitch chewed his way off, and about a week later, I saw him zip by. I gotta say that little dude earned some respect lol
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    Image of iheartpie iheartpie
    12/15/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Nice to see such a respect for life in a pet shop :/
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    @iheartpie: Rodents are incontinent, so as they sit in the food bins chowing down, they're also defecating and urinating on a regular basis, which is why just about anything a rat's been eating in reeks to high heaven. This not only destroys hundreds of dollars worth of feed, but it also causes a potential health risk for the animals for sale, some of which are parrots costing hundreds of dollars (and rats love parrot food). Not only that, but the rat could show itself as a patron is walking through the door, and not everyone is going to be calmed by the fact that the rat is albino. Even in a pet shop, vermin must die.

    I would've much rather caught the rat and returned it to the tank, but the ordeal went on for a number of weeks before it disappeared. By then, the rat could've been anywhere, and gotten any number of parasites.
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    Image of iheartpie iheartpie
    08:25 AM

    @Kaiser-Machead: That's a fair enough argument, however if you're gonna use a trap, why not a humane one? That was my point.

    @witeowl
    Humanity can apply even to those intended to be eaten.

    This is why intensive farming is slowly being fazed out in the civilised world.

    Also, lets get phylisophical, we're all dying, so why treat anything with any respect? Cause that's what humanity is.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    08:48 AM

    @iheartpie: We're supplied with traps by the company, so unless one of us wants to pay out of pocket, we didn't have much of a choice. Only humane quick-killing traps I can think of are the spring-loaded variety, and in a shop like that, that's a seriously bad idea. I guarantee 4-5 out of every 10 employees in the chain would snap their fingers in those mechanical traps on a regular basis lol. Trap cages are out of the question, because of the expense, and the fact that it doesn't kill the animal, which is a primary goal of the traps in the first place.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
    It's not a very humane trap.
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    Image of NewbiusMaximus NewbiusMaximus
    12/15/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: A quick death? That's pretty humane compared to watching it writhe to death on a sticky pad.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/15/09

    @NewbiusMaximus: Trapping without killing it is humane. A steel bar slamming down on it may not necessarily be immediately fatal, depending upon the position of the mouse under it.
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    Image of szrimaging szrimaging
    12/15/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: Why does it have to be humane?

    Besides, I have had a couple of mice now survive the old style mouse traps. One even was dragging it around as it was stuck to its tail.

    Of course, the best mouse trap is a cat. Now if only mine would quit playing with the mice and just finish the job.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/15/09

    In reply to Run, Jerry, Run! The Better Mouse Trap is Here
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    Image of Professional_Iceberg_Hunter Professional_Iceberg_Hunter
    12/15/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: How do you embed it like that exactly?
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    Image of Gary_7vn Gary_7vn
    12/15/09

    @Professional_Iceberg_Hunter: just do an RTFM
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/15/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: lol I want one of those
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/14/09

    In reply to Do We Honestly Think People Like Those Below Would Join a Pet Mouse Dating Site?
    Having already seen a people-with-herpes dating site, a dating site centered around people who have pet mice is rather....meh. The internet has completely ruined my ability to be shocked and awed.

    I will never feel wonder again.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/14/09

    In reply to Do We Honestly Think People Like Those Below Would Join a Pet Mouse Dating Site?
    Judging by her boots, I'd think of her as more of a crush video kind of gal.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/14/09

    In reply to Do We Honestly Think People Like Those Below Would Join a Pet Mouse Dating Site?
    I was thinking Port-O-Bong.
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