This looks nice, my concern would be that felt might not be as protective and durable as synthetic fiber. I've been really happy with a few bags from booqbags.com. Black, slick and provides good protection.
@eagles3 halfinsane: Actually I don't even have to buy her lunch, since she is my wife she is happy with me just cooking dinner. I was just thinking of how others could get a friend/girlfriend to do the work for them :-)
@tzakiel: Disregard for design? This is about as simple as it gets as far as design is concerned. Flannel sleeve with a pouch, Woah...really pushing the envelope...
And I want you to tell me exactly how many guys you know that can sew. I know exactly ZERO. So its not sexist but a statement of fact.
You know though, the PRS505 works just fine, and you can get it for a decent price. My wifes first comment on a kindle "the screen is so small"! She doesn't care about wireless delivery, just make sure theres extra books with you.
The Sony 505 and the Kindle use the same screen. They're both 6". Same part from the same manufacturer. There's more stuff around the screen with the Kindle so it can look smaller.
For folks unfamiliar with the 505, if the lack of functions like search and dictionary would bug you in the reviewed Pocket Edition, the 505 doesn't have them either. Pocket is pretty much a 505 only smaller and with no SD. It's great if you don't care about those features. Good price and sleeker design than the Kindle. Native PDF support (though the small screen won't help you read a non-reflowable PDF much). I wouldn't want people to get the impression that it was close in feature set to the new 6" model, though.
For me, the PRS300 PocketReader is exactly what it should be. No distractions, highly portable. You simply read a book, no audio, no connectivity, just u and the book, the way it should be
@Anthony Colletti: The reviewer didn't seem to mind the lack of audio and wireless. It was the lack of dictionary and especially search that seemed to bother him. Personally, I view those as enhancements to my reading rather than distractions. Actually calling search an enhancement is a bit charitable. When you can't leaf through pages quickly, the absence of search can be downright annoying.
"They are cheaper than Kindle, in a niche all by themselves."
Actually the Kindle is $299 now, same price as the touch Sony.
I'm surprised by the touch screen interface being reversed from the more intuitive swipe-left-to-go-forward. I assumed that there would be an option to have it the other way - there isn't?
@weatherman: You are right, not just about the Kindle price, which had momentarily skipped my mind, but the setting that lets you change the gesture. I never would have thought to look for that. Way to earn your star!
"The Pocket's problem is that it is barebones to an almost insulting degree: No search, no dictionary, no card reader, no nothin'." -- see, I disagree. While I can see the benefits of something like search and these other features, you can't do this in a normal book anyway.
Companies need to expand upon this idea of a featureless ebook reader and reduce the price. I would get an ebook reader, but I don't read much, so I can't even justify this $200 price tag. At a lower price, I'd get something like this, and then maybe, over time, I would step up to more advanced models. From someone going from books to ebooks, these features won't be missed, and I feel like that's the market that should consider the Pocket and comparable ebook readers.
@Wilson Rothman: You say that, but I've never used it. I've never even held an ebook reader, so it's not like I'm missing it. While I do see the utility of it, again, you can't do that in a paper book. To you, Gizmodo editor, it's a dealbreaker, but to me and the rest of the populace who would be making the transition from book to ebook reader, it's just a nice idea.
I wouldn't mind an ebook reader that can only hold 10 books (maybe fewer, though I feel that storage isn't what's keeping the price up), a screen, three buttons (power, page forward, page back), and networking only via USB to a PC. No wireless, no buying on the unit, only connect to your computer to transfer ebooks to the reader that you've bought. And hell, if the price is right, I might even buy it as an entry-level reader. Again, to you, that's absurd, but I'd like it.
@Platypus Man: That's not absurd at all. The issue is that it just can't be done yet. Flash storage of any reasonable size is basically free-with-purchase it's so cheap, and adding a search feature...well...that's a few lines of code, again, not very expensive. What makes ebook readers out of your price league (I assume) is the cost of the screen, which you can't compromise on - as indicated by this review.
You requirements for a reader are completely reasonable...they just can't yet be done
@Platypus Man: This not really a matter of technology, like a pop-up dictionary or SD reader might be. Book capacity is already absurdly high, and 3G could well be called overkill, if it weren't so convenient.
This, though, is a reading issue. Anyone (like me) who leafs back and forth while reading a particularly engrossing book has no ebook equivalent except for search. Without a way to poke around, you can really only check out the few pages ahead and behind, because E-Ink is so slow and painful to flip through.
But your overall point is valid. Strip everything else and yes, you still might have something nice there.
@ripfire: I'm going to guess that since there's no quickly flipping through the pages looking for something, that a search function is pretty much mandatory on and ebook reader.
@Wilson Rothman: I agree. Search is a cheap feature. Dictionary isn't since they have to license the dictionary from the publisher. I can see leaving that out of a budget reader or at least making you buy the dictionary if you want it. After all, they did most of the work for it in the expensive model. They would need a button-driven on screen keyboard, but that's also not too bad if you think of it on a per-unit basis.
@Wilson Rothman: OK, I see how the search could be pretty important, and if it's that easily implemented, then I guess it's fine, with one issue -- search requires either a keyboard or a touchscreen, both of which require more hardware (and therefore cost) than you should have in a base model. Same with 3G -- no matter how "convenient" it is, it's not 100% necessary and it's not free.
So yeah, I'd have to agree with fryhole (love the name) that the screen is what's really keeping the price up, so I just hope that that can go down over time.
I think the irex's touch technology is wacom-based and requires a pen, so somehow that removes the need for a layer over the e-ink.
When I went to the Sony store to check out their e-readers, naturally I picked up the larger Touch version first and my first reaction was that e-ink isn't as clear as I would expect. That was until I compared it with the Pocket version and thought that amazon may have been right to leave touch out.
Now I'm not as excited about the new readers coming out, like Plastic Logic's, which try to one-up the kindle with touch. Perhaps e-readers need to start posting contrast numbers.
I have to believe that Sony is sticking with the touchscreen only to differentiate itself from the Kindle. I wish Sony would choose to compete on something more substantive like DRM or format compatibility. The Kindle has a lot of weak points which could be exploited, but lack of touch screen isn't one of them.
@jetRink: They're already competing on DRM; they announced a while back that they'd be pushing more towards the epub format, which the major publishers are moving towards as the industry standard. The Sony books already support it, and in fact have more format support overall.
But the glare was a problem with the 700 model, and having gone to the Sony Store to see if they've improved it with the Touch...I'm sad to say they haven't.
BTW: on the 700, you can change the way you use the touchscreen to turn the pages, into a more natural right-to-left motion. I'm assuming the Touch has the same ability as well.
@Eric C. Tucker: ePUB doesn't mean free from DRM, by the way. That's a common misconception. It just means that the same DRM license and file formats will be accepted by Sony Readers, even if you bought them from some other source. It's just an attempt at an ad-hoc industry standard, like (dare I say it?) WMA PlaysForSure was for a brief embarrassing while. Trust me, nobody in publishing is ready to drop DRM anytime soon.
And yes, I hated the 700 so much I never bothered to look into that setting adjustment, but you are right. This one has it too, as I noted in an update above.
@Wilson Rothman: Project Gutenberg and Google Books are releasing much of their content in the EPUB format, meaning no need to convert any files to have quick access to them on your e-reader. EPUB is also a free/open standard, meaning it is nothing like WMA PlaysForSure.
I'm glad you wrote this article, I've been wanting to buy an e-reader and was looking into the different available products earlier this morning. I came to basically the same conclusion you did about this generation of Sony readers: decent but not great. The Kindle 2 is out of the question, it's a joke with 60% of the front surface area being stuff other than the screen. I've come to the sad conclusion that the PRS-505 from Sony is currently the best purchase out there, despite being released 2 years ago and is now discontinued.
That's a bummer. I wanted a Kindle, but the closed nature and 1984 debacle really turned me off. Then Sony got my hopes up. And now those have been dashed. Guess I'll just keep waiting... Quel domage...
@PaddyDugan: Sony has a bookstore with $9.99 bestsellers, just like Amazon's. Sorry to have left that out—this is Sony's third-generation of readers, and not much has changed in their content delivery. Hit the Pocket and Touch backlinks for some extra info on this.
@Wilson Rothman: Ah, so it really does come down to the hardware when making a choice? Yet, I'd be interested in seeing a side by side comparison of a search for ten readable items.
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Do your self a favor, go to Joanne fabrics and pick up a couple pieces of felt and leather for less than $15.
Then find a girl/woman that can use a sewing machine and buy her lunch/give her a back rub/whatever and you can have the same thing for less than $25
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And I want you to tell me exactly how many guys you know that can sew. I know exactly ZERO. So its not sexist but a statement of fact.
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Maybe he's trying to score a date at the same time?
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The Sony 505 and the Kindle use the same screen. They're both 6". Same part from the same manufacturer. There's more stuff around the screen with the Kindle so it can look smaller.
For folks unfamiliar with the 505, if the lack of functions like search and dictionary would bug you in the reviewed Pocket Edition, the 505 doesn't have them either. Pocket is pretty much a 505 only smaller and with no SD. It's great if you don't care about those features. Good price and sleeker design than the Kindle. Native PDF support (though the small screen won't help you read a non-reflowable PDF much). I wouldn't want people to get the impression that it was close in feature set to the new 6" model, though.
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Actually the Kindle is $299 now, same price as the touch Sony.
I'm surprised by the touch screen interface being reversed from the more intuitive swipe-left-to-go-forward. I assumed that there would be an option to have it the other way - there isn't?
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Companies need to expand upon this idea of a featureless ebook reader and reduce the price. I would get an ebook reader, but I don't read much, so I can't even justify this $200 price tag. At a lower price, I'd get something like this, and then maybe, over time, I would step up to more advanced models. From someone going from books to ebooks, these features won't be missed, and I feel like that's the market that should consider the Pocket and comparable ebook readers.
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I wouldn't mind an ebook reader that can only hold 10 books (maybe fewer, though I feel that storage isn't what's keeping the price up), a screen, three buttons (power, page forward, page back), and networking only via USB to a PC. No wireless, no buying on the unit, only connect to your computer to transfer ebooks to the reader that you've bought. And hell, if the price is right, I might even buy it as an entry-level reader. Again, to you, that's absurd, but I'd like it.
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You requirements for a reader are completely reasonable...they just can't yet be done
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This, though, is a reading issue. Anyone (like me) who leafs back and forth while reading a particularly engrossing book has no ebook equivalent except for search. Without a way to poke around, you can really only check out the few pages ahead and behind, because E-Ink is so slow and painful to flip through.
But your overall point is valid. Strip everything else and yes, you still might have something nice there.
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So yeah, I'd have to agree with fryhole (love the name) that the screen is what's really keeping the price up, so I just hope that that can go down over time.
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When I went to the Sony store to check out their e-readers, naturally I picked up the larger Touch version first and my first reaction was that e-ink isn't as clear as I would expect. That was until I compared it with the Pocket version and thought that amazon may have been right to leave touch out.
Now I'm not as excited about the new readers coming out, like Plastic Logic's, which try to one-up the kindle with touch. Perhaps e-readers need to start posting contrast numbers.
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Then next thing you know, they'll be competing for refresh rates...
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But the glare was a problem with the 700 model, and having gone to the Sony Store to see if they've improved it with the Touch...I'm sad to say they haven't.
BTW: on the 700, you can change the way you use the touchscreen to turn the pages, into a more natural right-to-left motion. I'm assuming the Touch has the same ability as well.
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And yes, I hated the 700 so much I never bothered to look into that setting adjustment, but you are right. This one has it too, as I noted in an update above.
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I'm glad you wrote this article, I've been wanting to buy an e-reader and was looking into the different available products earlier this morning. I came to basically the same conclusion you did about this generation of Sony readers: decent but not great. The Kindle 2 is out of the question, it's a joke with 60% of the front surface area being stuff other than the screen. I've come to the sad conclusion that the PRS-505 from Sony is currently the best purchase out there, despite being released 2 years ago and is now discontinued.
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