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TheCrudMan
08/31/09

In reply to The Easy Way to Add an Onscreen Keyboard to Your Palm Pre
Since it's a Palm product I expect to be able to write with a stylus, otherwise what's the point!
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superberg
08/31/09

@TheCrudMan: I remember learning Palm's Graffiti. It still didn't always work, but it was surprisingly accurate.

Still, I wouldn't go back. I like have the best of both worlds on my G1.
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92BuickLeSabre
08/26/09

In reply to Google and Palm Can't Get Their Google Voice Stories Straight
He told her, then she told him, then they told somebody else...this is getting to be like a game of Telephone.
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met2art
08/26/09

In reply to Google and Palm Can't Get Their Google Voice Stories Straight
This whole Google Voice situation is getting ridiculous. I like Google, and my G1, but too many people seem to be forgetting that Google/T-Mo had similar issues with Skype, thus relegating it to marginally useful.
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anexanhume
08/26/09

@met2art: I'd prefer margarinally useful-- all the taste, but better for you.
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phunnyballs
08/26/09

@met2art: skype is VOIP while google voice is call forwarding
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clak
08/26/09

@met2art: There's a double standard for Apple. Remember when everyone complained because Apple only wanted web apps for the iPhone? No outrage at PALM for essentially doing the same thing.

Remember when Apple didn't have flash with their web browser? No outrage at PALM for not having flash or video or many other things.

Also, companies that have game consoles have a closed platform, but it's not okay for Apple to have one.
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Identity (Metric)
08/26/09

@clak: Blah blah blah. Blah blah blah. Who cares?
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whatne1wuddo
08/26/09

@My Secret Identity: agreed. and unfortunately your comment promoted his comment.
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Identity (Metric)
08/27/09

@whatne1wuddo: d'oh! I apologize, I should have thought that through.
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met2art
08/27/09

@phunnyballs: The end result, of both Skype and GV is the same. By putting GV on my T-Mo G1, I get unlimited free calls, to anywhere. Any plan that allows "faves" that don't use minutes, essentially makes GV a free calling program, and also side-steps any attempt by the wireless provider to enact restrictions upon the user.

Similarly, Skype allows users to pay for data and then make unlimited calls. The technology may be different, but again, the end result is the same.
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Tamar Weinberg
08/22/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
Actually, it's probably that people aren't too quick to develop apps for the Palm Pre -- they're trying to bask in iPhone glory (which still feels new to them). Being first would be awesome for a lot of these guys but they're waiting for the Pre to build momentum. Too bad -- sometimes being an early adopter can mean lots of success (and $$$).
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k-napped
08/21/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
I have over 130 apps... in my Homebrew catalog. Even still, only about 8 I've downloaded and are any use.
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Worf
08/21/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
So how does Palm protect those "Try Mes" from becoming full versions by a little 'jailbreaking' and modifying the app?

The emulator only required a bit of editing to remove the timebomb...
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aniteshj
08/21/09

@Worf:

By only releasing a true demo? With only 2-3 levels, instead of everything on the file?
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freakout
08/21/09

@Worf: They can't, really, beyond supporting Javascript obfuscation methods. But how many users do you really think are going to be bothered modifying the script?

Truth of the matter is, no matter how restrictive your DRM, if someone wants to pirate your app, they're going to. (See the multitudes of pirated iPhone apps on Bitorrent, for instance.) That it is relatively easy for us geeks to do so does not necessarily mean the majority of non-tech-savvy users will.
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Seppo Helava
08/21/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
While I'll be the first to admit that I'm biased (I'm the lead designer at Self Aware Games), Word Ace is a pretty serious game. A fully online multiplayer word/poker game, with text chat, picture-based emotes, etc., there's nothing niche or throwaway about it.
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justinpe
08/21/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
Uh, what's up with Giz not reporting the responses from Apple and ATT to the FCC?
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bornonbord
08/21/09

@justinpe: Why was this promoted? This is OT and ignorant.

[gizmodo.com]
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justinpe
08/22/09

@bornonbord:

At the time of my comment, Giz hadn't reported anything yet, and it was over a half hour after the story broke.

Considering Giz's interest level on this issue, I was surprised to see they hadn't posted anything yet.
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G.O.B.: Come on!
08/21/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
Just back away from the pre-approval model altogether. Allow developers to submit their apps and make the store nothing more than an indexer (rather than a controlled marketplace). Allow users to flag junk (spam) apps and leave it at that. Additionally, allow the installation of apps not indexed (i.e.: apps downloaded straight from a developer's web site).

When will someone get it?
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justinpe
08/21/09

@G.O.B.: Come on!:

There has to be some sort of quality control. Not just for a good user experience (recognizing and fixing bugs) but also to ensure a secure device. If there was no approval process, what would prevent someone from submitting a malicious app?
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bornonbord
08/21/09

@justinpe: Dude, look at your computer. The software you buy for it does not have to be approved by anyone. It could be malicious. What would prevent someone from selling you bad software?

Adobe could fuck us all in the ass if they wanted.
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k-napped
08/21/09

@G.O.B.: Come on!: Wait, so do things like the Pre Homebrewing community is doing? That's ludicrous.
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justinpe
08/22/09

@bornonbord: What you say is true:

My computer doesn't have an official app store or even an indexer that is the exclusive provider of applications.

It is one thing to download malicious software on your computer by frequenting porn sites and downloading things you aren't sure of.
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Eugenia
08/21/09

In reply to Uh, What's Going On With Palm's App Catalog?
Good luck to Palm (with their JS/HTML SDK) getting stuff that people really want to use, like Skype, VoIP SIP, a multi-protocol IM, games that aren't slow...
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freakout
08/21/09

@Eugenia: You should probably look a bit more closely at Palm's Mojo framework; they've done a lot of heavy lifting to allow JS access to the hardware. You cite multi-protocol IM, for instance - well, that's already supported in Palm's messaging program (Google and AIM, I believe.) There are homebrew developers already working on Facebook chat, ICQ, Yahoo! etc.

You do have a point on games, though. Palm is working on JS APIs for those too, though.
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bornonbord
07/13/09

In reply to MLB's Web App for Pre Looks Good Enough to Be Native
Because the MLB wants you to pay for any content-rich features. People will pay, too.

Just not me.
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matt buchanan
07/13/09

@bornonbord: The iPhone's is $10 a year and does more stuff!
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bornonbord
07/13/09

@matt buchanan: It probably cost more in time to get the programmers the dev kit, have them port over as much as they could and kick it out asap.

The Pre is to the MacOS in 1998 as the iPhone is to Windows in 1998.

Or, at least, it very well could be. Apps coming out later, for more money. Shit, developers must be pissed having to know how to create apps for all the different devices these days.

Or it's the MLB being as full of shit as they always are when it comes to their content.
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MrBlahBlah
04/02/09

In reply to Palm Pre's First Apps Hands On: Seriously Good-Looking Programs
Looks fantastic. But the screen could some more space for sure. Also, I bet they are delaying it while they try to optimize battery life.
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kaubuchon
04/02/09

In reply to Palm Pre's First Apps Hands On: Seriously Good-Looking Programs
Damn, I think you guys just made me decide to switch to Sprint for this thing.

So the past two years will have consisted of 3 different carriers for me - I wish phones weren't dedicated to carriers :/
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frigg
04/02/09

@kaubuchon: you are a serial carrier switcher. You need to commit to a single carrier, at least for a while, even if things aren't perfect. If not for you, then for the children!
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Kaiser-Machead
04/02/09

In reply to Palm Pre's First Apps Hands On: Seriously Good-Looking Programs
Too bad it's Sprint. :/
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SomeoneUKno
04/02/09

@Kaiser '3D' Machead: I was thinking the exact same thing. Im psyched that the Pre is going to be great, but I wish that it was on a better network. Out where I live, cell phone reception is sporadic at best with most carriers (other than AT&T) which limits us to what we can have...

And I still refuse to get an iPhone.
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tenazrael
04/02/09

@Kaiser '3D' Machead: Are you kidding... Sprint is awesome. I don't understand all this hate for Sprint. Their signal, voice quality and 3g service are awesome.
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Kaiser-Machead
04/02/09

@tenazrael: I don't necessarily hate Sprint, as I've never used them, but so far, there's nothing compelling enough about them to switch over from T-Mobile. If the Pre was available to me on my own network, I'd certainly keep it in mind. But it ain't, so for me personally, it's unfortunate.
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madog
04/02/09

In reply to Palm Pre's First Apps Hands On: Seriously Good-Looking Programs
Shiny!
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