Fuck hp. After buying two computers that both arrived defective, and refusing to allow me to return them once they fixed them and shipped them back, I'm never doing business with them again.
Be warned, their non defective product return period keeps ticking down even if you were shipped a defective product in the first place.
Well, I honestly think they earned it. I work retail, and if any vendor has been putting out a great computer for the price, its been either HP or Toshiba.
Here's hoping once the money starts flowing even harder, we'll see even better stuff through spring and summer.
I guess the question now though is who to give credit to. Was this all HP's doing, or did Windows 7 play a role?
HP's playing this all wrong. Downplay expectations so that you can always exceed them. Like when someone asks, "When do you think you can get that report to me?" you tell them, "3 weeks" when you know it only takes one. Then, ta-da!
You must've worked so hard to get this in so early! Here's a raise, Poop Cooper! And here, this is my of-age supermodel daughter who needs someone to take her to her prom at a school where no one will judge her for dating someone clearly older, along with the keys to the Trojan Condom Mobile parked out front. If you need Viagra, you just give me a holler. But who am I kidding? You? Need viagra? Like you have any trouble getting going - this is the guy who got his work in two weeks early!
Sony doesn't like to hear about price-cuts, but if they would make the PS3 more competitively priced, start a trend in lowering the msrp of Blu-rays so the sale prices can compete with DVD, and start lowering the price of their Blu-ray players even more they might make a little bit of a gain.
How would a price cut help they lose money on every console? They need to figure out how to cut costs or come out with something inventive. I hope they cut prices on the PS3, then I would consider buying one but it won't help the company.
@jer2110: The way Sony would need to do a price cut is to imitate the XBOX by making the wireless adapter separate, the bluetooth module sold separately, the hard disk separate. Then the initial price is low. If you build up an XBOX with all the extras, it ain't so cheap but lots of people don't need bluetooth etc...
@quidsquid: One of Sony's biggest problems, is they are under the false pretense that Sony branded electronics should be priced at a premium. The company's CEO has repeated stated this on several occasions over the last few years since taking over the company.
Look at the PSP Go for example. It costs Sony less to produce one than it does to produce the PSP 3000, yet they charge $80 more for the PSP Go. When questioned about that, one of Sony's Euro execs pretty much stated the increase in price for the PSP Go was due to the fact that new technology should be priced higher; and that it is expected by the consumer. Maybe someone should question Sony about their definition of new technology, as the PSP tech has been around for five years now.
And true the PS3 is losing money on every console sold, and is probably the only product Sony sells that they honestly are in no position to reduce price on. however that does not mean that all the other consumer electronics products that Sony carries are in the same position. Most CE devices from every CE company on the block, are sold at a markup. Yet Sony's CE devices sell for hundreds and in some case thousands of dollars more than competing products from the likes of Samsung, Toshiba, LG, Panasonic and the list of affordably priced competition is endless.
Sony maybe could get away with premium pricing if they actually offered products that were truly light years ahead of competing products (like their marketing department claims Sony products are). However, when a Korean company like Samsung can make televisions every bit (if not better) as good as Bravia, and sell them for hundreds of dollars less, where is the real incentive to purchase a Sony branded television?
And this was already a problem that was causing Sony major fiscal troubles years before the current, global economic crisis. Now factor in the global recession, the wild currency fluctuations of late, and the written in stone, policy of across the board premium pricing at Sony, and you have a cookbook recipe for a company on the verge of going under sometime in the next five years.
You guys have a large enough readership that a mistake like that can affect stocks and all kinds of corollary interests. If found to be intentionally slanted it could be liable, if it affects stocks that you own or may purchase it could be considered a Federal Crime. Nothing will come of it, you responded quickly but you should verify your facts or not editorialize on things you don't understand or report false facts. If no one had noticed the error as quickly as it did, a lot of damage could have been done.
@Brad MacLean: If I were to put my money on it, I'd bet that this is exactly how Gizmodo's bubble of informal news reporting will burst someday. Blam needs to hire a full time fact checker/proof reader ASAP. What seems like a mundane detail can easily turn into an egregious error. To exemplify, watch Office Space.
@WTF-STFU: No need to be an ass over a legitimate concern. If Gizmodo's opinions/statements are regarded highly enough to feature in a commercial on television, many can take the information it doles out in other matters to heart as well.
This article is not accurate - Microsoft was still profitable. A 32% drop in net income implies positive earnings. What's all this stuff about "losses"?
it's amazing how someone can sell a flash drive as a music player for $80. i have a flash drive that's twice that size i paid $15 for. so i'm basically paying $65 for the ability to play music off it portably?
@cddude: It isn't just a flash drive. If it was just a flash drive, it would do nothing more than store data. obviously, that's not the case. By that logic, my iPod touch is just a 32GB flash drive, because the other components around the medium with which it stores information is insignificant.
That flash drive that you paid $15 for probably costs a few cents to produce individually, thus the markup on that cheap flash drive is probably similarly proportioned to this product.
Dont act surprised GIZHEADS, if you where a MON(APPLE)LY you would do the same thing. I work in sales for a BOILERROOM type company making 100k a year just talkn on the phone, its all about supply and demand which in sales is the only two rules that exist and im sure at the rate they are pump'n out they are making at least a 65-75% profit so the costs that where just specified are way to high. High profits low parts cost cause your able to buy more in bult at a cheaper rate than your comptition. These guys are DDD-DIGITAL DOPE DEALERS and im a helpless TECHEAD whos fix is never satisfied unless the toy is considered the latest and greatest thats out. They have me by the cockandballs!
@shopperciti.com: Sorry, as soon as you said Boiler Room, I pictured you as either Giovanni Ribissi or Vin Diesel, and your words transformed into grunts.
Why are people offended that it costs less to make than its sold for?
How many of you "outraged" posters work at cost? You could be fed, clothed and housed for $10/day, why don't you ask for a paycut if you think taking profit is immoral or a ripoff?
@Andreas Mueller: How many outraged posters are posting at work, on someone elses dime, so they are producing less than what they are getting paid for?
Was anyone seriously surprised? The thing is smaller than my eraser, and flash technology is now dirt cheap compared to a few years ago. The processor is tiny, and unless it's made with a fine hybrid of diamond filament and unicorn pubes, it's not going to be costly.
My advice is to not allow the cost of production to sway you, but rather how much a product provides to you personally for the amount it asks for in retail.
How much do you think those sneakers you're probably wearing cost to make?
@Kaiser-Machead: How much do you think those sneakers you're probably wearing cost to make?
Take a pair of high priced sneakers and disassemble them. You'll be amazed at the layers of stuff that goes into them. Different types of rubber, layers of different types of foam, air bladders and more in some of the fanciest basketball shoes. Shoes have come a long way from the old rubber cupsoles.
@Lodril: That doesn't necessarily make them that much more expensive. No one will convince me that a $250 of Nike dunks costs anywhere near even half that per pair to produce unless there's some facts. Sneakers are, however, generally have a very significant markup, similar to these. I see no reason why the pattern would have changed, even with the enhancements in shoe design.
Really? That seems... inexpensive. Mebbeh Apple isn't providing us with the highest quality materials. Mebbeh I want a pricier processor instead of a paltry $5.98 one. Apple iPod Shuffle Intel Atom edition, anyone?
11/24/09
Be warned, their non defective product return period keeps ticking down even if you were shipped a defective product in the first place.
11/24/09
Here's hoping once the money starts flowing even harder, we'll see even better stuff through spring and summer.
I guess the question now though is who to give credit to. Was this all HP's doing, or did Windows 7 play a role?
11/24/09
You must've worked so hard to get this in so early! Here's a raise, Poop Cooper! And here, this is my of-age supermodel daughter who needs someone to take her to her prom at a school where no one will judge her for dating someone clearly older, along with the keys to the Trojan Condom Mobile parked out front. If you need Viagra, you just give me a holler. But who am I kidding? You? Need viagra? Like you have any trouble getting going - this is the guy who got his work in two weeks early!
That's how you should've played it, HP.
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Look at the PSP Go for example. It costs Sony less to produce one than it does to produce the PSP 3000, yet they charge $80 more for the PSP Go. When questioned about that, one of Sony's Euro execs pretty much stated the increase in price for the PSP Go was due to the fact that new technology should be priced higher; and that it is expected by the consumer. Maybe someone should question Sony about their definition of new technology, as the PSP tech has been around for five years now.
And true the PS3 is losing money on every console sold, and is probably the only product Sony sells that they honestly are in no position to reduce price on. however that does not mean that all the other consumer electronics products that Sony carries are in the same position. Most CE devices from every CE company on the block, are sold at a markup. Yet Sony's CE devices sell for hundreds and in some case thousands of dollars more than competing products from the likes of Samsung, Toshiba, LG, Panasonic and the list of affordably priced competition is endless.
Sony maybe could get away with premium pricing if they actually offered products that were truly light years ahead of competing products (like their marketing department claims Sony products are). However, when a Korean company like Samsung can make televisions every bit (if not better) as good as Bravia, and sell them for hundreds of dollars less, where is the real incentive to purchase a Sony branded television?
And this was already a problem that was causing Sony major fiscal troubles years before the current, global economic crisis. Now factor in the global recession, the wild currency fluctuations of late, and the written in stone, policy of across the board premium pricing at Sony, and you have a cookbook recipe for a company on the verge of going under sometime in the next five years.
04/23/09
If they didn't turn up a profit at all, they'd scoop up Ballmer like Homer Stokes and ride him out on a rail.
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That flash drive that you paid $15 for probably costs a few cents to produce individually, thus the markup on that cheap flash drive is probably similarly proportioned to this product.
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How many of you "outraged" posters work at cost? You could be fed, clothed and housed for $10/day, why don't you ask for a paycut if you think taking profit is immoral or a ripoff?
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My advice is to not allow the cost of production to sway you, but rather how much a product provides to you personally for the amount it asks for in retail.
How much do you think those sneakers you're probably wearing cost to make?
04/13/09
How much do you think those sneakers you're probably wearing cost to make?
Take a pair of high priced sneakers and disassemble them. You'll be amazed at the layers of stuff that goes into them. Different types of rubber, layers of different types of foam, air bladders and more in some of the fanciest basketball shoes. Shoes have come a long way from the old rubber cupsoles.
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