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    Image of Navin R Johnson Navin R Johnson
    11/18/09

    In reply to Of Course, Microsoft Denies Those Project Natal Pricing 'Rumors'
    I will buy this when it comes out even if it's $199. I'm not even sure why I want it so much, but I want it. So much.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Of Course, Microsoft Denies Those Project Natal Pricing 'Rumors'
    I hate marketing these days. The same guy who is denying this is the same guy who leaked it I'm sure.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment aprather was starred aprather was unstarred
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    11/18/09

    @aprather: The cynical side of me would not be surprised. We here have to think that at least some of these companies' marketing teams acknowledge Gizmodo and others' roles in generating hype and use that to their advantage.

    Anyone else see the video of Jim Cramer on the Daily Show? Where he played clips of Jim Cramer suggesting that folks spread the rumor that the iPhone wouldn't launch on time, in order drive down the price of stock (naturally, to then buy it at a low price)? Yeah. That shit happens.
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    Image of mattoneski mattoneski
    11/18/09

    In reply to Of Course, Microsoft Denies Those Project Natal Pricing 'Rumors'
    since when does micro$oft sell any thing for under a $100.
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    Image of Canoehead Canoehead
    11/18/09

    @mattoneski: Hey, their Wifi adapter is only, like, $95!
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    11/18/09

    @mattoneski: I bought Windows 7 Pro for $40 bucks.
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    11/18/09

    @ripfire: touché
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    Image of MyNameIsTooAwesome MyNameIsTooAwesome
    11/18/09

    In reply to Of Course, Microsoft Denies Those Project Natal Pricing 'Rumors'
    Ok, people, more rumors, now!
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    11/18/09

    @MyNameIsTooAwesome: I heard a rumor that MyNameIsTooAwesome's actual name is just boring old "Bob".
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    11/18/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: I heard that Norwood is not actually my hero.
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    11/18/09

    @OCEntertainment: I was told OCEntertainment isn't all that entertaining IRL.
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    Image of MyNameIsTooAwesome MyNameIsTooAwesome
    11/19/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: In the name of MyNameIsTooAwesome, we [Longley&Sherman] would want to declare the paramenters to the now necessary meetings in court. @firewhisper: Awesome reference...

    #tips
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    Image of davidmorales01 davidmorales01
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    Cojo21 is right. MCV article states that "The device should cost under £50 when sold solo. One publishing source says Microsoft is “trying to get as close as possible to ‘impulse buy’”. Another even says the camera could even retail for just £30."

    At £50 thats about $100.

    Mr. Wilson, you gotta convert pounds to dollars, son.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/11/09

    @davidmorales01: Pounds sterling do not always convert equally to USD. Not only are price points different in different nations, but there are different tariffs and import taxes. For example, the Nikons D300 is $1,574.95 or £1,094.28 (was £1,546.76) and 32GB iPod Touch is $279.95 or £205.99. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. #projectnatal
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    Image of Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    So, the Natal add-on, with 14 games will cost $20-$50 less than the new wireless adapter. That's backwards. #projectnatal
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    Nathan Obbards promoted this comment Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho was starred Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho was unstarred
    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/11/09

    @MisterWho's Mystery Meat: The profit margin will be smaller on the Natal, but more units are expected to be sold. That makes perfect sense to me. If you really care about playing online, you're playing wired, not wireless. #projectnatal
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    Image of SmokeyRivers SmokeyRivers
    11/11/09

    @Nathan Obbards: Not necessarily true. I know a lot of people, myself included, that care about games and play wirelessly with no issues at all. Sometimes running ethernet isn't an option, (Or at least not a cost effective option) #projectnatal
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/11/09


    @SmokeyRivers: One word: microwave. #projectnatal
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    Image of Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho
    11/12/09

    @Nathan Obbards: The day my wife is ok with me running another (unsightly) wire up and down the walls of our apartment is the day I will give your comment some credence.

    However you do make a valid point about profit. Natal is supposed to be provide incentive to go out and buy more games. #projectnatal
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/12/09

    @MisterWho's Mystery Meat: I'm sorry your wife won't allow that. If my technological yearnings were hindered by an SO, I'd be sad. singlehood has thusly served me well. #projectnatal
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    Image of Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho Ozzie's Secret Code Name: MisterWho
    11/12/09

    @Nathan Obbards: My wife also serves me well, but I'll save that discussion for another forum. #projectnatal
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    Image of incubushead incubushead
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    Bullshit it'll be 80$, not when they charge 100$ for a wireless adapter and 150$ for a 120gig hard drive. #projectnatal
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    Image of TuxBobble TuxBobble
    11/11/09

    @incubushead: Yea. But a wireless adapter and a 120 gb hd don't sell the console.

    HYPOTHETICALLY:
    If they lose $50 per Natal, that sounds like it hurts, especially x 5 million.

    But, when you factor in the fact that the wireless adapter is ~$75 profit, and a 120gb HD is ~$100 profit, they would still be in pretty damn good financial shape all things considered.

    Now...that really applies better for a console closer to launch--at this point, a large percentage of the people who ever planned on getting a 360 have gotten one, I'd imagine. But even so, those people who haven't bought one, they're going to need that wireless adapter and/or hard drive.

    MS - $NATAL + ($WIFI | $HD)
    -$50 + ($75 -$150) = $25-100 profit. And that's not including the games and other accessories.

    Smart plan. Though I still wouldn't buy a 360--waste of $ to have both PS3 and 360 in my opinion. (No offense to anyone who owns both. It just doesn't work for me financially--paying off college loans at my first full-time job--AKA not enough money--and all) #projectnatal
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    jepzilla promoted this comment TuxBobble was starred TuxBobble was unstarred
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    11/11/09

    @TuxBobble: Plus they also get licensing money from every game sale. Like the console itself, the Natal hardware will be subsidized by the games that are sold for it. WiFi and HD addons are pure accessories that don't drive new game sales, so you just get a tidy markup.

    Lastly, Natal sounds - hardware wise - pretty simple. A couple of cameras, some microphones and an embedded processor. Most of what makes Natal lies in the firmware, and that doesn't cost a penny to replicate. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    Perhaps Alfonso Ribeiro should market a Breakin' and poppin' game for the Natal: Get in shape and pick chicks with your hot moves! $100, slippery mat included. #projectnatal
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    Nathan Obbards promoted this comment geodesigner was starred geodesigner was unstarred
    Image of geodesigner geodesigner
    11/11/09

    @geodesigner: 'Course, he'll be exactly in the target audience...
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    11/11/09

    @geodesigner: hahaha wow is that really him? poor guy.... #projectnatal
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/11/09


    @thedoraz: I wouldn't be pitying him, especially not with the women he's still picking up. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    @Nathan Obbards: LOL wow poor me apparently well maybe not shes a cheap trick #projectnatal
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    Image of Cojo21 Cojo21
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    So why would the UK reps be talking in dollars? More likely it's 50-80 pounds... or $100-160. Which sounds more like the realistic range to me. #projectnatal
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/11/09

    @Cojo21: Subtract import tax and tariffs that are levied against the product when it is brought into the UK, subtract the fact that there is typically a 20-40% (sometimes even 100%) price difference in electronics prices between the US and the UK once currency conversions are accounted for and I think that a $60-100 price point is well within reason. #projectnatal
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    Image of chauncy that billups chauncy that billups
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    I wonder what color that led turns when this thing kicks the bucket? I'm sure they're sick of red. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    @chauncy that billups:
    BLOD: Blue LED of Death. #projectnatal
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    Image of ID Ron Burgundy ID Ron Burgundy
    11/11/09

    @vlatro: Or if you do well in the game it could give you the BLOW: Blue LED of Win. #projectnatal
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    They are sure dead on with the impulse buy, especially with Amazon's instant buy -- what a clever devil those Amazonians #projectnatal
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    11/11/09

    @BergenCountyJC: They also have good fundamentals. They are good at Snu-snu. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_IsSlacking: Mmmm death by Snu-snu. #projectnatal
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    Image of ichiban1081 ichiban1081
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    So this is going to come out for a rumored reasonable price while the Wireless N adapter comes out for $100? For under $80 I would definitely give this a try but MS needs to alter their pricing on the HDD's and wireless adapters. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    Is that pictures included in the post still a mockup or is that now officially what it will look like? #projectnatal
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    Image of Mark Wilson Mark Wilson
    11/11/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: : That's a final, from what I understand, or at least what Microsoft is pushing for the time being as a final. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    I want to play a game on Natal where all you do is climb a rope. #projectnatal
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    11/11/09

    In reply to LEAK: Project Natal Shipping in November 2010 with 14 Games for Under $80?
    If this isn't an indication that this really is a project funded by the military/NWO wing of Microsoft to body scan people so they can send the terminators /drones/cruise missiles to kill us selectively, I don't know what is.

    This is why I buy Apple products. Steve Job isn't Illuminati and/or a Free Mason Eugenicist. #projectnatal
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    11/11/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_IsSlacking: That's what he wants you to think. #projectnatal
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    GitEmSteveDave_IsSlacking promoted this comment Daver73 was starred Daver73 was unstarred
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    11/11/09

    @Daver73: Oh you mock, but wait, you'll see. The time timetable has been set. It'll happen on a holiday when people are traveling. Microsoft will say the XBOX user accounts have been compromised, and in order to use the XBOX and it's network, you have to do a full body scan and biometrics read to log into your XBOX live account and/or play games. And who will have access to all this information? The Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA. The secret government. That's when they shut down the internet for everyone else and only let "confirmed" Natal users access the WWW. Making them the chosen ones, but because they are scanned, they are marked. By the beast! #projectnatal
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