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10/06/09
I'm wondering more "when" than "how much".
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I would like to see a similar thing to the wii head tracking. (video hopefully attached). Some people have been calling Natal out as not being useful for "real" games, but if I could use it to simulate a 3d environment while still using an actual controller in, say, an FPS, I would be very :D
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The problem there was that sega was trying to milk its current gen hardware for all it was worth by adding on. Project Natal, from what I've seen, is truly more of a revolution rather than evolution (to quote apple). If supported with the right software titles, this thing could really be badass.
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Xbox 360: Most popular gaming platform of the time.
Sega Genesis: New market innovation of CD's and 32 bit processors coming from competitor, so creates add-on to make their product even better.
Xbox 360: Motion sensitivity innovation very popular with competitor, so creates add-on to make their product even better.
Sega Genesis: Add-on confuses the market, games slow to be released or seen, so the product collapses.
Xbox 360: Add-on is not yet released, but we have yet to see a specific game for it. Jury is still out.
I am not saying it will collapse, but there is a reason for the comparison. I think the primary difference is that Sega killed themselves by having two add-on devices (Sega CD and 32X), but even without the Sega CD it would never have been a success. Since there is nothing officially out (including the device) for Natal it is too early to say how it will do, but the comparison makes sense. I do hope Microsoft is more successful even if game console add-on's from all companies have not done well in the past.
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I'll bet that out of the gate Microsoft's the bill of materials cost is somewhere around $80-90 at least.
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In the MS promotional video, the Natal is always on. Obviously, we'll have the ability to turn it off and if we do, lose the cool feature of the 360 recognizing us when we walk into a room.
For those of us with a Wii60 in the house and with Natal on, when I'm playing Wii, will Natal's IR throw off the Wii controllers?
OMG... will it know I'm playing with my Wii?!
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When you consider how all Xbox 360 accessories are priced, it's something we've come to expect.
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*cough* guitar hero *cough* *cough*
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Guitar Hero, Rock Band, DJ Hero, Tony Hawk: Ride... now imagine you bought a single peripheral that functioned for an entire library of future games rather than one limited to a single genre or franchise.
I honestly don't see the problem.
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Motion based controls will always be simplified compared to keyed inputs.
I'll take my $100 guitar any day over wiggling my fingers in the air and watching half the notes go by missed (there is no way that camera system would be able to catch the flurry of notes played on a expert song).
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I never implied that it would be applicable to every genre, nor did I imply that it should replace more traditional means of input, only supplement them.
Or is it bad to have more options?
10/07/09
Secondly, until it is for doing more then chatting or trying on avatar clothes - ie: some games come out that actually make interesting use of it, then it is just a gimmick like the wii-mote. The Wii may have some great games, but to me, none of them would have been impossible using a regular non-motion based controller.
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Basically, it's the least helpful answer they could possibly give short of "It will have a price."
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Btw you think "natal" is gonna stick or is it just a code name and will be changed?
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It seems to have stuck so far, but may get changed regardless. Like Revolution - Wii, it'll meet heavy resistance at first, and then be all but forgotten shortly down the line.
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The 32X, to my memory, did pretty poorly and Sega ended up making more Megadrive/Genesis games after it was released. Or was that the SegaCD? Or was it both? I forget.
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The comparison could be all too accurate since the game console add-on concept has never worked out well for any company, even if Sega wins the prize. Hopefully Microsoft will have better luck and create a compelling reason to make the investment.
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(And yes, people actually believe this and have talk shows on the radio saying this!)
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Actually, ~$150 is a very common estimate for Natal, and microsoft has spoken on it being treated like a new console multiple times.
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By the way, this is like Price Is Right. It's the closest without going over.
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They aren't adding natal to any old games. I don't believe we have seen anything that is an actual game for Natal yet.
The games they showed, the old ones, with natal integrated were just demonstrations.
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Thanks for the shit sandwich MS.
09/22/09
How would this be enforced? Would it be a mystery chip on the MB? What about sending the unit back and getting a refurb? What about old stock on shelves???!?!? Too many variables - I am interpreting this as current Xbox 360's (maybe HDMI or Falcon).