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@aprather: The cynical side of me would not be surprised. We here have to think that at least some of these companies' marketing teams acknowledge Gizmodo and others' roles in generating hype and use that to their advantage.
Anyone else see the video of Jim Cramer on the Daily Show? Where he played clips of Jim Cramer suggesting that folks spread the rumor that the iPhone wouldn't launch on time, in order drive down the price of stock (naturally, to then buy it at a low price)? Yeah. That shit happens.
@NorwoodIsMyHero: In the name of MyNameIsTooAwesome, we [Longley&Sherman] would want to declare the paramenters to the now necessary meetings in court. @firewhisper: Awesome reference...
Cojo21 is right. MCV article states that "The device should cost under £50 when sold solo. One publishing source says Microsoft is “trying to get as close as possible to ‘impulse buy’”. Another even says the camera could even retail for just £30."
At £50 thats about $100.
Mr. Wilson, you gotta convert pounds to dollars, son.
@davidmorales01: Pounds sterling do not always convert equally to USD. Not only are price points different in different nations, but there are different tariffs and import taxes. For example, the Nikons D300 is $1,574.95 or £1,094.28 (was £1,546.76) and 32GB iPod Touch is $279.95 or £205.99. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. #projectnatal
@MisterWho's Mystery Meat: The profit margin will be smaller on the Natal, but more units are expected to be sold. That makes perfect sense to me. If you really care about playing online, you're playing wired, not wireless. #projectnatal
@Nathan Obbards: Not necessarily true. I know a lot of people, myself included, that care about games and play wirelessly with no issues at all. Sometimes running ethernet isn't an option, (Or at least not a cost effective option) #projectnatal
@Nathan Obbards: The day my wife is ok with me running another (unsightly) wire up and down the walls of our apartment is the day I will give your comment some credence.
However you do make a valid point about profit. Natal is supposed to be provide incentive to go out and buy more games. #projectnatal
@MisterWho's Mystery Meat: I'm sorry your wife won't allow that. If my technological yearnings were hindered by an SO, I'd be sad. singlehood has thusly served me well. #projectnatal
@incubushead: Yea. But a wireless adapter and a 120 gb hd don't sell the console.
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If they lose $50 per Natal, that sounds like it hurts, especially x 5 million.
But, when you factor in the fact that the wireless adapter is ~$75 profit, and a 120gb HD is ~$100 profit, they would still be in pretty damn good financial shape all things considered.
Now...that really applies better for a console closer to launch--at this point, a large percentage of the people who ever planned on getting a 360 have gotten one, I'd imagine. But even so, those people who haven't bought one, they're going to need that wireless adapter and/or hard drive.
MS - $NATAL + ($WIFI | $HD)
-$50 + ($75 -$150) = $25-100 profit. And that's not including the games and other accessories.
Smart plan. Though I still wouldn't buy a 360--waste of $ to have both PS3 and 360 in my opinion. (No offense to anyone who owns both. It just doesn't work for me financially--paying off college loans at my first full-time job--AKA not enough money--and all) #projectnatal
@TuxBobble: Plus they also get licensing money from every game sale. Like the console itself, the Natal hardware will be subsidized by the games that are sold for it. WiFi and HD addons are pure accessories that don't drive new game sales, so you just get a tidy markup.
Lastly, Natal sounds - hardware wise - pretty simple. A couple of cameras, some microphones and an embedded processor. Most of what makes Natal lies in the firmware, and that doesn't cost a penny to replicate. #projectnatal
Perhaps Alfonso Ribeiro should market a Breakin' and poppin' game for the Natal: Get in shape and pick chicks with your hot moves! $100, slippery mat included. #projectnatal
So why would the UK reps be talking in dollars? More likely it's 50-80 pounds... or $100-160. Which sounds more like the realistic range to me. #projectnatal
@Cojo21: Subtract import tax and tariffs that are levied against the product when it is brought into the UK, subtract the fact that there is typically a 20-40% (sometimes even 100%) price difference in electronics prices between the US and the UK once currency conversions are accounted for and I think that a $60-100 price point is well within reason. #projectnatal
So this is going to come out for a rumored reasonable price while the Wireless N adapter comes out for $100? For under $80 I would definitely give this a try but MS needs to alter their pricing on the HDD's and wireless adapters. #projectnatal
If this isn't an indication that this really is a project funded by the military/NWO wing of Microsoft to body scan people so they can send the terminators /drones/cruise missiles to kill us selectively, I don't know what is.
This is why I buy Apple products. Steve Job isn't Illuminati and/or a Free Mason Eugenicist. #projectnatal
@Daver73: Oh you mock, but wait, you'll see. The time timetable has been set. It'll happen on a holiday when people are traveling. Microsoft will say the XBOX user accounts have been compromised, and in order to use the XBOX and it's network, you have to do a full body scan and biometrics read to log into your XBOX live account and/or play games. And who will have access to all this information? The Federal Emergency Management Agency. FEMA. The secret government. That's when they shut down the internet for everyone else and only let "confirmed" Natal users access the WWW. Making them the chosen ones, but because they are scanned, they are marked. By the beast! #projectnatal
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Anyone else see the video of Jim Cramer on the Daily Show? Where he played clips of Jim Cramer suggesting that folks spread the rumor that the iPhone wouldn't launch on time, in order drive down the price of stock (naturally, to then buy it at a low price)? Yeah. That shit happens.
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At £50 thats about $100.
Mr. Wilson, you gotta convert pounds to dollars, son.
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@SmokeyRivers: One word: microwave. #projectnatal
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However you do make a valid point about profit. Natal is supposed to be provide incentive to go out and buy more games. #projectnatal
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HYPOTHETICALLY:
If they lose $50 per Natal, that sounds like it hurts, especially x 5 million.
But, when you factor in the fact that the wireless adapter is ~$75 profit, and a 120gb HD is ~$100 profit, they would still be in pretty damn good financial shape all things considered.
Now...that really applies better for a console closer to launch--at this point, a large percentage of the people who ever planned on getting a 360 have gotten one, I'd imagine. But even so, those people who haven't bought one, they're going to need that wireless adapter and/or hard drive.
MS - $NATAL + ($WIFI | $HD)
-$50 + ($75 -$150) = $25-100 profit. And that's not including the games and other accessories.
Smart plan. Though I still wouldn't buy a 360--waste of $ to have both PS3 and 360 in my opinion. (No offense to anyone who owns both. It just doesn't work for me financially--paying off college loans at my first full-time job--AKA not enough money--and all) #projectnatal
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Lastly, Natal sounds - hardware wise - pretty simple. A couple of cameras, some microphones and an embedded processor. Most of what makes Natal lies in the firmware, and that doesn't cost a penny to replicate. #projectnatal
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@thedoraz: I wouldn't be pitying him, especially not with the women he's still picking up. #projectnatal
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BLOD: Blue LED of Death. #projectnatal
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This is why I buy Apple products. Steve Job isn't Illuminati and/or a Free Mason Eugenicist. #projectnatal
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