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    How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
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    Image of abettertomorrow abettertomorrow
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    That initial email is not a 'polite email' - he went to CES, identified himself as press, agreed to make his email available.


    Then when he received an email, he sent this nasty little note. Regardless of the response, he's got no excuse.

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    Image of Ryanraven Ryanraven
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    i guess not everyone like's brando's products?
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    Image of dinologic dinologic
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    Where'd they get the picture of Zangief?
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/17/08

    @dinologic: Looks like he's putting a bag of hurt on Major Guile....
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    They didn't want to receive information on the newest line of Monster Cables?
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    I'm sure that guy had a lot more to write.


    He probably kept it brief so he could get to the gym in 26 minutes....

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    I've done my good deed - namely emailing the author of the above email flame with a "Does this news story belong to you" note and links to this story and the TechCrunch one listing her and her firm's name.


    She's in PR - she should be able to put some spin on it.

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    Image of discounteggroll discounteggroll
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    "I have seen nasty people like you melt away faster than a snowball going

    up hill in the rain"


    I'll just go ahead and add that line to my personal arsenal of verbal defense

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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    I want the full story too. I'd like to see the original email this blogger sent and then, if it's polite, I'd like to see the name of this idiotic PR person in print. Even if the original email was less-than-polite, there's no reason for him to make threats (either physical or on a business level) but I think you'd have to see both sides of the email conversation and probably actually talk to people to get the real story.


    I call for a full Gizmodo Inquiry!

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    Image of Michael Selvidge Michael Selvidge
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    Jason -

    send it over to Owen at Valleywag, he'll publish the name of the company. I need to know!
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    Image of Rich Brome Rich Brome
    12/17/08

    @Michael Selvidge:


    HWH PR.

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    Image of Jesus Diaz Jesus Diaz
    12/17/08

    @Rich Brome: Seems like Lois needs a little bit of love. In a stick.
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    12/17/08

    @Jesus Diaz: Ha! I'm gonna have to borrow that line sometime.
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    Image of norfizzle norfizzle
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    agreed, we need to see the blogger's e-mail.
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    Image of Rich Brome Rich Brome
    12/17/08

    @norfizzle:


    This is my exchange, so I can tell you. My email to her was:


    "Please remove me from your list. My publication does not cover these types of products.


    I did NOT sign up to receive info in this category, nor anything close. By CES guidelines, I should not have received this, making it dangerously close to spam. That reflects poorly on your company.


    Thank you."

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    Image of Jesus Diaz Jesus Diaz
    12/17/08

    @Rich Brome: Who is her?


    Post it. She needs a lesson.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    Wow. Time to up the dosage.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @ripfire: It looks like she picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.
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    Image of Dunny0 Dunny0
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    I'm curious to see the other side of that exchange. The whole "don't threaten us" line makes very little sense *unless* the original email included some form of threat.


    Which, if that were the case, totally deserves this kind of reply.

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    Image of Rich Brome Rich Brome
    12/17/08

    @Dunny0, Team T/A:


    This is my exchange, so I can tell you. My email to her was:


    "Please remove me from your list. My publication does not cover these types of products.


    I did NOT sign up to receive info in this category, nor anything close. By CES guidelines, I should not have received this, making it dangerously close to spam. That reflects poorly on your company.


    Thank you."


    I'll be the first to admit that I may have been mistaken about how CES segments their press list (or rather, doesn't.) CES press registration does imply that you are signing up to only receive emails from relevant companies. I have since been told that may not be the case.


    Regardless, I don't think what I wrote deserved the response I got.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    12/17/08

    @Rich Brome: Ahh. That explains it. She's crazy!
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    Image of Juan Carlos Lopez Juan Carlos Lopez
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    42 years in the CE business and he doesn't know about gizmodo?
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    Image of Jason Chen Jason Chen
    12/17/08

    @Juan Carlos Lopez: This wasn't sent to Gizmodo.
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    12/17/08

    @Jason Chen: BGR then? Heh.
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    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    12/17/08

    @Juan Carlos Lopez: Wasn't to us.
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    Image of 1 DVS BSTD-Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle 1 DVS BSTD-Its off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle
    12/17/08

    @Brian Lam:


    Damn it, guys !!!

    You're killing me here !!

    Do you know where it was sent too ?

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @It s off the Hizzle fo $hizzle My Dizzle: It's in this thread somewhere. I'll just leave it at that.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    Yea, I emailed you, big whoop! Wanna fight about it?
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/17/08

    @A/S/L-SteveDave loves this guy->★: That's it. It's on punk. I'm gonna kick yer ass on Sunday.


    PS - I was expecting a fight anyway what with the copious amount of liquor and beer.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @A/S/L-SteveDave loves this guy->★: Look man, don't make me get my ass kicked!
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday GitEmSteveDave_HatesFriday
    12/17/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: Don't make me take out my teeth. BTW, you still have to RSVP me.
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    12/17/08

    @A/S/L-SteveDave loves this guy->★: Trying to see how many I got coming. It's not looking like it's needed because I've got about 15 coming. Thanks anyway though.
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    12/17/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: It's a dessert!
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/17/08

    @A/S/L-GitEmSteveDave loves->★: Are you not entertained? Is that not why we are here??
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/17/08

    In reply to How Not to Treat People When Pitching Them Stories
    There's an old saying:


    Never pick a fight with a person who buys ink by the barrel.


    Pixels are cheaper than ink. Don't pick fights with the person who is going to review your client's product. You'll only burn the bridge at both ends.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: I'd actually like to know who sent the e-mail, and what products they represent. Then I could write the manufacturers of those products and say, "If this is the kind of people you pay to promote your products, I'll just find a different vendor."


    And, you know, a few thousand more people could do that. Then that guy could drown himself and his sorrows in a freshly delivered barrel of ink.

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/17/08

    @Lite: I think that Chen is being abundantly gracious by having redacted the name of the PR company.
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    Image of Bsjskier Bsjskier
    12/17/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: Definitely, but a quick google of a few key terms brings it right up.

    First result under "CES slug or hug" [www.crunchgear.com]
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    12/17/08

    @Lite: Unless I see the exact message sent by the blogger, I wouldn't be so quick to judge. At this point, it's all one-sided. We don't know exactly what the blogger wrote. I've seen before where interviewers would provoke an aggravated response from an interviewee and use that to paint the image.


    Although the last line was unexpected:


    " However, you do have very interesting content and we have lots of client you would like to know more about to help you in your endeavors. Call me"


    Could be an automatic signature since it's below the PS.

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    12/17/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: Oh, I agree they're being quite gracious about it. Then again, they probably have to deal w/ said PR person @ CES soon.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/17/08

    @Bsjskier: Excellent sleuthing. So a PR firm for Westinghouse and Samsung hard drives was, in essence, spamming a cell-phone blog.


    Well, here's to Google hits for "Lois Whitman" and "HWH PR/New Media"

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @ripfire: Actually. The best part of this whole e-mail above? It was written by a woman.


    But, obviously we don't know what was sent to that company originally as it has never been referenced. On the other hand, they seem to represent brands I'd really never consider purchasing from. I'm not big on Samsung Drives to begin with.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: Looks like the original e-mail was tersely worded, but not really out of line. More like they touched a nerve as the company received a good amount of backlash for not toning down its birdshot approach at shotgunning info out.
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    12/17/08

    @Lite: Seeing both sides of it, I have to side with PhoneScoop. They're gearing up for CES, just like Ms. Whitman's firm is. Sounds like there is a checklist notification system and HRH PR is either misusing or abusing it.


    Also, PhoneScoop appears to have gotten some special recognition from PC Magazine. If Ms. Whitman has been in the consumer electronics business for 42 years, then that should mean something to her.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    12/17/08

    @Lite: I have actually been to that site numerous times when researching what new phone to purchase. (Pre iPhone days.)
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