longer answer: you're right, the EULA does say that. however, breaking a EULA is only breaking a license agreement, not the law.
however, all-in-one installers like the kalyway dvd (ideneb, etc...) are illegal, because they contain a modified version of the original leopard install disc.
a legal (and less buggy) solution would be to purchase the efix dongle. while it's a bit pricy, it's a legal alternative, since it allows you to install leopard from an unmodified apple dvd.
Yeah I would rather do it myself, and save even more money. But I think many many people don't understand that you can actually do this yourself. Computers are, sadly, still such a mystery to so many people. Even people in my generation are clueless and we grew up with computers. Not surprising just disappointing.
Also if I ever by a desktop again, which I doubt, than I would consider hackintoshing a PC a possibility. Unless of course I end up being richer than a college student, in which case, Apple FTW.
@eagles3: how much do these cost anyway? would you really save much money doing it yourself when you factor in the time it takes to tweak everything to work right?
@Weihovah: if you base the hardware you buy on what is known to work, there should be very little tweaking involved.
even though time = money, there would still technically be more money in your pocket, even if you have to spend some time adjusting a few things. does that make sense?
I'm sorry, is Psystar giving away their Hackintoshes? No. So why is everyone so "yeah, stick it to the man"? If they were giving them away I would better understand them being viewed as Robin Hoods. The real Robin Hoods are the people who actually cracked OS X, not the idiots trying to sell you what's available free.
@Mint137: absolutely. My point is that all Psystar is doing is selling you a regular hackintosh and putting their logo on it. Which is fine with me, whatever let them spend more time talking to their attorney than to customers. But, lets not make them out to be vigilantes fighting for the little guy.
@kahri: Well they're providing a much cheaper version when you compare the specs. Of course you could do it yourself, but most of the people in the market for a Mac don't have those skills. Why isn't it OK for them to make a profit? They are still providing soemthing for the little guy.
Still trying to figure out who their target market is. Because their product assumes Mac = OS and I just don't think that's how most people see it.
Mac users (and potential Mac users) want that look at my shiny logo/vanity appeal that comes from having an authentic Mac. PC users that aren't compelled by the Mac don't care what their machine is so long as it does what they want it to and despite all the Mac/PC commercials Windows systems still work just fine for most people. Dissatisfied PC users and geeks not compelled by the Mac and its style/culture already have Linux as an option. That leaves only dissatisfied PC users who want a Mac, but are too cheap to pony up for the Apple tax. Not exactly a huge market.
I still think it's stupid that you have to buy an Apple computer to legally run OSX. With the crowd around here that wiggs out if Comcast shapes your traffic, feds try to bust up PB, and the like, I find it ironic that your ok with Apple telling you that you can't do what you want with a software product that you purchased.
I have no interest in using it as my desktop, but should more companies go that route I'll have to get in on it sooner or and later and I would rather have options down the line.
@UnderLoK: They are ok with it because Apple tells them to be ok with it.
If Apple made a toaster, and sold it for $350 there would be 500 posts about it on Gizmodo heralding the glory of the iToaster, and how it revolutionizes toast. Even if all it does is toast your bread. You can only use Apple iToast, which costs $20 a loaf, and it would still be hyped as the best thing since sliced bread.
I like Mac OS. I own 2 Apple computers, but I find the rabid Apple followers around here go overboard when it comes to the fruity products.
@timak: I think the valid compromise would be Apple simply not providing any support for OSX if you choose not to install on an Apple machine. This way you don't have any integrity lost at Apple stores, and the support staff don't have to worry about any additional training.
I realize this will never happen, but in my ideal gadget world, that's how it works.
@enm4r: I was thinking the same thing, but then Apple wouldn't get to overcharge for their PCs anymore so that alone will keep it from happening.
@nutbastard (Everyone come to snowmodo!!!): and I doubt you ever will see someone end up in court (unless they don't have a license). However that doesn't change the fact that technically if you were to install OSX on your Dell laptop with your key your license is then void. You are obligated to throw it in the garbage at that point even if you then take it and install it on a Mac.
If anyone else tried that BS people would be all over them like stink on shiz.
nope. there's no registration key or anything like that. as far as i know, there never has been. i mean, look at how much hassle the Windows reg key thing is, and how it's completely failed to stop people from pirating it.
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i think the mac OS agreement says that it should be installed on apple hardware only.
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Apple would say "fuck no" to answer your question, by the way. Or, at least I think that is what they would say.
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longer answer: you're right, the EULA does say that. however, breaking a EULA is only breaking a license agreement, not the law.
however, all-in-one installers like the kalyway dvd (ideneb, etc...) are illegal, because they contain a modified version of the original leopard install disc.
a legal (and less buggy) solution would be to purchase the efix dongle. while it's a bit pricy, it's a legal alternative, since it allows you to install leopard from an unmodified apple dvd.
hopefully this answers your question :)
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Also if I ever by a desktop again, which I doubt, than I would consider hackintoshing a PC a possibility. Unless of course I end up being richer than a college student, in which case, Apple FTW.
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even though time = money, there would still technically be more money in your pocket, even if you have to spend some time adjusting a few things. does that make sense?
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/"evil" conformist
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Mac users (and potential Mac users) want that look at my shiny logo/vanity appeal that comes from having an authentic Mac. PC users that aren't compelled by the Mac don't care what their machine is so long as it does what they want it to and despite all the Mac/PC commercials Windows systems still work just fine for most people. Dissatisfied PC users and geeks not compelled by the Mac and its style/culture already have Linux as an option. That leaves only dissatisfied PC users who want a Mac, but are too cheap to pony up for the Apple tax. Not exactly a huge market.
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"Dissatisfied PC users and geeks not compelled by the Mac and its style/culture already have Linux as an option."
Linux is still, to date, a pain in the ass.
"That leaves only dissatisfied PC users who want a Mac, but are too cheap to pony up for the Apple tax."
Or who want to be able to customize the hardware.
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I have no interest in using it as my desktop, but should more companies go that route I'll have to get in on it sooner or and later and I would rather have options down the line.
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If Apple made a toaster, and sold it for $350 there would be 500 posts about it on Gizmodo heralding the glory of the iToaster, and how it revolutionizes toast. Even if all it does is toast your bread. You can only use Apple iToast, which costs $20 a loaf, and it would still be hyped as the best thing since sliced bread.
I like Mac OS. I own 2 Apple computers, but I find the rabid Apple followers around here go overboard when it comes to the fruity products.
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I realize this will never happen, but in my ideal gadget world, that's how it works.
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"I still think it's stupid that you have to buy an Apple computer to legally run OSX. "
An end user has yet to end up in court for doing so.
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worded that wrong, but you know what i mean
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@nutbastard (Everyone come to snowmodo!!!): and I doubt you ever will see someone end up in court (unless they don't have a license). However that doesn't change the fact that technically if you were to install OSX on your Dell laptop with your key your license is then void. You are obligated to throw it in the garbage at that point even if you then take it and install it on a Mac.
If anyone else tried that BS people would be all over them like stink on shiz.
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nope. there's no registration key or anything like that. as far as i know, there never has been. i mean, look at how much hassle the Windows reg key thing is, and how it's completely failed to stop people from pirating it.
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hypocrites
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it's a desktop - wifi cards are $30 and ethernet cables are even less.
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That may work with your porn collection but an entire OS?
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Really, there was OSX already installed? Huh, what do you know. I guess he lucked out on that one!