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tamoko
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
Well this is a royal turd... But it makes sense, at least from a branding and intellectual property perspective. Let's hope the Dev Team gets cracking ob this fast.. I can't live without my cracked apps and Doom on the train.
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frigg
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
Given that Apple is in a stated cat and mouse war with jailbreakers, why would anyone be surprised when the cat swipes its paw at the mouse? if you're going to cat-and-mouse with a wily mouse, you might as well be a wily cat.
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JeffEd
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
I'm so fed up with them. I'm glad I sold their stock when I did. They're going to start sinking before too long. They piss everyone off, and they have become far more obsessed with form that function. D**NIT!
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madog
12/16/08

@JeffEd: This is a perfect example of how Apple is obsessed with function in a bad way. If they weren't, then you could install Leopard on any $100 box and feel free to run any application on their phone to reduce battery life and otherwise mess with it's intended design and functions.
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Kyle Garrett Adams
12/16/08

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good. iphone is perfect the way it is in the first place. no need to jailbreak it.
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Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@Den-O:

Prop 8 passes:

Kyle Garrett Adams

12:42 AM

good. marriage is perfect the way it is in the first place. no need to gaybreak it.
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Joe Rider
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
this is why I can never go mac.. despite running a bit better and looking sleeker, they don't let you mess with anything.. god forbid we modify their perfect product..
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madog
12/16/08

@Joe Rider: Well it's a good thing you don't have a Mac and an iPhone that's jailbroken because this only affects those people.
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-daddy-
12/16/08

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This is almost as wasteful as the war on drugs.
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ALT
12/16/08

@-daddy-: Let's make a PWNAGE CZAR!!! hahahaha
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Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@ALT:

Seriously, Dev Team, appoint someone with this title. Release faux press conferences on youtube, etc... It's brilliant.
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ab3
12/16/08

In reply to Apple Leopard 10.5.6 Update Pwns Pwnage, Breaks Jailbreak
Wow I think this is the first time I have ever said that I am glad I have a pc with XP.
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madog
12/16/08

@ab3: What a great and stupid reason to not like Apple. There are plenty of other perfectly good reasons to dislike them but you have chosen the most idiotic.
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Roxas13th
12/16/08

@ab3: XP rocks, but nothing really to do with this..
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Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@madog: I don't think he actually said he hates Apple, but that he is glad he is running XP, the two are not mutually exclusive.

When I read this, I said to myself "what dicks, i'm glad I have XP". And, really, this seems like a pretty ok reason to have negative feelings towards Apple. It's a totally unnecessary dick move on their part.

The whole fight against jailbreaking borders on silly; they should know by now that they simply will not stop this from happening and will likely only alienate people, like myself, who are interested in getting a Mac if it weren't for their unreasonable pricing.
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Voyou_Charmant
12/16/08

@Roxas13th: Fact.
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Dara Moghaddam
12/16/08

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I effing hate Apple, haha, glad I don't own a mac
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madog
12/16/08

@Dara Moghaddam: Yes, because a company trying to protect their assets is evil and horrible. Fail Troll fails.
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Colin Bean
12/16/08

@madog: Yes, because a company that claims so much openness and a model that "isn't Windows" is doing exactly what Microsoft used to do: tie everything together in a neat little package and hold it. If Microsoft had a phone and did this, everyone would be raving about how bad it was, but since it's Apple, it must be OK.
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madog
12/16/08

@Colin Bean: Apple has never been about openness and always about closed system tied in only to their hardware. Otherwise, Leopard would legally be allowed to be installed on non-Apple hardware, and Apple wouldn't have put an end to clones. They didn't even want to make their first computer with ports as to not allow people to even plug in third party hardware to their systems.

They refuse to be like Windows in that they close their software up so they don't have to worry about supporting 100 different hardware manufacturers. It has always been as such and none of this should really surprise anyone.
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madog
12/16/08

@madog: Windows used to prevent other web browsers from being installed on their OS. While that may be somewhat similar to this, Apple is merely not allowing unauthorized software on their phone as they have already allowed third party software on it through the App store; ultimately they're attempting to prevent the unauthorized use of unlocking the iPhone as to protect their and AT&T's assets, which is done also through the Ownage tools but hasn't been perfected for the 3G (yet). This is just a quick and easy method for them to counter the devteam's inevitable goal.

I'm not saying I condone Apple here (though it doesn't affect me), but I'm just trying to explain that this doesn't seem strange or unusual to me as it has always been Apple's stance. As I replied to another post, there are plenty of perfectly good reasons to not like Apple. This reason just seems stupid and moot as it has always been.
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Darthvinder
12/16/08

@madog:

Hmm, 27 replies. Apparently Fail Troll Succeeds.
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reluttr
12/16/08

@Darthvinder: obviously your the troll. I mean HOW else did your comment add to the debate?
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Darthvinder
12/16/08

@reluttr:

Erm, what debate? I agreed that it was a troll and it did a pretty good job of attracting passionate responses from people from something as stupid as "lol apple sux." And it's a valid response to someone saying "fail troll fails," because apparently the dude did a pretty good job at trolling.
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BruceAphareus
11/06/08

In reply to New MacBooks Disable Pwnage Tool, Open Second Front in War on Jailbreaking
You should know by now that Apple uses different build of Mac OS X on new MacBooks "Unibody" then on all the previous notebooks. You can read about itn Dan Warne's article "Top Ten Things You Didin't Know About the New MacBook"/ Russian-speaking readers can read it in my translation for Haywired.
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BerylAeolus
11/04/08

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Apple knowingly ( and to great profit) sold 500,000 1st gen iphone to non att consumers at full price. Many of the 1st owners lived outside the usa, so jailbreaking was the only solution to use them. Apple and the phone providers (like rogers in canada) vigorously sought them and happily gave them a plan for their 1st iphone and looked the other way with jailbreaking. Soon at the 3gs came out, Apple began slowly poisoning all the old 1st gen phone ( first with itunes updates, and now with interoperability on host computers). This is pure evil. Imagine having a car company purposely selling you gas to break your car ( every itunes update) so you'll buy a new one, or make the new gas stations not accept your car as you r drive it on the highway (macbook non-interoperability) . Apple is purposely killing 500,000 legally bought 1st gen phones just so you'll upgrade to their new phones. Tought luck you say - wait till they do it again to your 3g phones - they will because unless we speak out. If a cool and hip company like apple gets away with this, many much more ugly companies will try next. the iphone is a device - a data computer - it needs to be open. itunes breaks the typical computer/software pact. they should be prosecuted just so we can stop it in 2008 before this practise gets picked up by others.
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4rhythm
11/04/08

In reply to New MacBooks Disable Pwnage Tool, Open Second Front in War on Jailbreaking
Ya know,I think drakino had this right, i don't think that this was purposeful, or it would have been aimed at oolder computers as well.

I have never jail-broken my iphone, and the only reason that I would would be to get away from AT&T who suck in my area.

i love easily being able to download youtube and rip them and my DVDs and put them on my computer, ipod and iphone. i also like making my own free ringtones.

I am typing this on an 8 year-old Powermac (added SATA and USB 2.0) while doing other work on an Intel mac in the next room. Most of what I do is with freeware and shareware (which I try to pay for).

When you buy a car, you check the depreciation, what is the depreciation of a Mac vs a PC.

One reason for software issues on the PC side is the variability of chipsets, so you ran into it on the Mac, again, as this has happened with some software in the past.

That being said, as Apple has changed its manufacturing process over the years and has gone from USA assembly to overseas and to cheaper and cheaper components, the style has improved but I feel that the quality has dropped.

I would prefer same style with improved components. I still like the old hemispheric iMac and still have three of them in use.
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Imagine Engine
11/03/08

In reply to New MacBooks Disable Pwnage Tool, Open Second Front in War on Jailbreaking
I believe this is a simple issue of PEBKAC (Problem Exists Between Keyboard and Chair) There's nothing hardware related in the new MacBooks that would affect PWNAGE from jailbreaking the iPhone 3G. As for software the OS is running the latest version of Leopard which I have on a preexisting MacBook and have no issue with PWNAGE. I do admit it's much easier to jailbreak with QuickPWN though offers less user control.
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banmojo
11/03/08

In reply to New MacBooks Disable Pwnage Tool, Open Second Front in War on Jailbreaking
apple hardware is pretty, usually well built, contains significant potential. then the software that we're FORCED to use on it limits its potential usefulness, making it subpar. I enjoy my iphone mostly, but will definitely be looking into other options in 1.5 yrs from now when my contract is up. they had better listen up to their clientale and make moves to keep us happier, if they want to keep their current % of the market or even take more % in future.
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atomoverride
11/03/08

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Apple is soo concerned that their new CASH COW the app store is going to become a pir8cy playhouse. Oh wait it already happened. LOL! sorry apple.
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brutaluser
11/03/08

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Apple iphone users are being back stabbed. Users aren't necessarily trying to bypass copy right there just trying to run there own apps on there own phone. When windows does it its to protect its own software from copy right infringement
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