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    Photofast CR-7200 CompactFlash Adapter Runs Four microSDs In RAID

    Western Digital's My Book World Edition II Offers 4TB of RAID Network Storage

    QNAP SS-839 Pro Turbo NAS Shrinks Mega RAID to Notebook Sizes

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    Image of discounteggroll discounteggroll
    06/26/09

    In reply to Photofast CR-7200 CompactFlash Adapter Runs Four microSDs In RAID
    CR-7100 will hold one 16GB microSD, while the

    CR-7000 holds one 32GB SD. The 7200 will be available for $30 and the 7100 and 7000 for $25


    is that confusing and universe-shattering to anyone else?

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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    06/24/09

    In reply to Western Digital's My Book World Edition II Offers 4TB of RAID Network Storage
    Personally, if I'm going to buy a dual-drive RAID system, I'd rather just get something with active cooling and is easier to swap bad drives out of, similar to this little doodad.


    [www.g-technology.com]

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    06/24/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: I stand corrected on the drive swappage. Nice.
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    06/24/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Make a little NAS box w/an old CPU.
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    Image of Andre Oceans Andre Oceans
    05/23/09

    In reply to Very old, 2004 - 3.5" Floppy Disk RAID Array Provides Nearly 4MB of Usable Space
    Nice to remember macs used to be FUGLY HORRIBLE LOOKING COMPUTERS with CRT Screen, Useless Mouse, Floppy Drive, No Software Support, its amazing apple survived the 90's


    long live the Apple

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    05/23/09

    @Andre Oceans: Nice to remember that computers used to load programs off of cassette tape, the floppy drive was 2.5' long 6" high, and 8" wide. It weighed about as much as a boat anchor.


    And, they didn't have color graphics. They had green monochrome graphics.


    Even older ones loaded programs from switches, punch cards, and reel to reel tape. They had overly large typewriters to control them instead of screens.


    Please don't talk to me about computers in the 90's, let alone Macs, being fugly.

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    Image of psychoboyjack psychoboyjack
    05/23/09

    In reply to Very old, 2004 - 3.5" Floppy Disk RAID Array Provides Nearly 4MB of Usable Space
    That is win.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    05/23/09

    @psychoboyjack: you must set the bar pretty darn low
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/23/09

    In reply to Very old, 2004 - 3.5" Floppy Disk RAID Array Provides Nearly 4MB of Usable Space
    There was a point way, way back in college where, for a Mac-based graphics class I was taking, all of us students would keep, on a single floppy, not only all of our project files but also an entire, bootable Mac OS (IIRC, OS 5) AND all necessary applications. That way when we sat down to a random computer in the classroom, we could reboot it--from that single floppy!--into our own complete system.


    When I think how many MacPaint files I could have stored on THIS sweet little baby...!


    :)

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    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    Could a RAID drive be made to equal the performance of a SSD?
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    Image of Alfonzo Alfonzo
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    Originally stood for redundant array of inexpensive drives, i believe, before a general consensus was reached that this was a damn silly name (way back when hdds were actually expensive).
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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    04/08/09

    @Alfonzo: Yes.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    Why is there suddenly a need to have reliable up-time for personal/home storage? It's very inefficient if you're just going to use it to store video/music. Just archive to disc.
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    Image of EBone EBone
    04/08/09

    @ripfire: Because most home users don't back up regularly, yet they have transitioned their lives (music, pictures movies) to a format that is prone to drive errors over time.
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    04/08/09

    @EBone: *sigh*
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    04/08/09

    @ripfire: I don't trust optical data AT ALL. I've seen to many home-burned CDs and DVDs fade over time to the point they are unreadable.


    Besides, most people would need fifty CDs to back up just a portion of their digital collection of photos, music and movies.

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    04/08/09

    @EBone: I have scanned photographs burned on CD-Rs and been in my storage for 10 years now. I pulled up photos last October (for photo montage) and had no problem reading them along with digital photos on DVD-R/DVD+R (for which the oldest I have is 6 years). I hardly pull them out of storage and would copy the entire contents to HD.
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    Image of Novenus Novenus
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    This is rather lightweight stuff. I wish the author would have explained that most RAID embedded controllers on mobos and for NAS, etc. are software RAID, which does not help in actual I/O r/w speeds (and in fact can be done just using any of the linux distro during install). If you are serious about RAID you need to purchase a dedicated RAID controller and a bevy of hardware (hot swappable HD cage, etc) to have a fast and safe/secure RAID that works the way it's supposed to. Granted it's expensive but if data redundancy and security is paramount it's worth it.
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    Image of ScottRose ScottRose
    04/08/09

    @Novenus: Agreed. I went on a little rant in the comments, above, trying to point those things out.


    BTW - I use software RAID (Windows Server and md) exclusively. Mostly for the cost savings, but also because my disk load is pretty low. In fact, for home media sharing, I recommend software RAID -- I've had way more problems migrating and rebuilding arrays with mid-range consumer controller cards than with software.

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    Image of Xeno Xeno
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    There is also RAID 10 which consists of two mirriored RAID 5 arrays.
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    04/08/09

    @Xeno wishes there was a preview button: *mirrored
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    04/08/09

    @Xeno wishes there was a preview button: RAID 10 is a nested RAID 1 inside a RAID 0, not a mirrored RAID 5.
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    04/08/09

    @smartboydan is in North Carolina: [en.wikipedia.org]
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    04/08/09

    @smartboydan is in North Carolina: Righto.


    Though you could make a mirror of two RAID5 arrays, there wouldn't be a point -- better to go RAID6 with hot spares. (You'd probably have to do it with a software-based mirror on top of 2 hardware-based RAID5s, because no controller card I've seen will mirror RAID5s.. Eh, you could also do it 100% in software).

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    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    Why would you use RAID to backup WoW or other games? I don't get it.... sorry. Is that really enough data to warrant RAID?
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    Image of matt buchanan matt buchanan
    04/08/09

    @Shamoononon thanks Rocephin: I was referring to a WoW raid, like nerds hanging out and not getting laid.
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    Image of joel_roberts joel_roberts
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    The drobo is worth checking out as an alternative to RAID. It uses a slick interface to LVM (Logical Volume Manager) rather than RAID. It has all the self healing functions of RAID, but more user friendly. Mixing of different capacity drives and easy explanations of how much overhead is used for data protection vs raw capacity.
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    Image of ScottRose ScottRose
    04/08/09

    @joel_roberts:


    The Drobo (and its ilk) are not alternatives to RAID. They are devices that implement RAID, even if they do not make it obvious to the end-user.


    LVM is not a replacement for RAID. It can run atop RAID arrays, but its functionality is almost completely different. (In other words, you can implement LVM without RAID, and RAID without LVM, or LVM on RAID array(s)).

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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    I"ve got capabilities for up to RAID 5, but I cannot afford the extra drives right now.

    Perhaps in the future.
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    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    Great article. Sure as hell cleared up some of the confusion that I had with raid setups.


    Thanks Matt!

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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    04/08/09

    @Evangelion: Indeed!


    I've never bothered to read up on the subject and now it's all here in a nutshell on my favorite tech blog: Gizmodo!

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    Image of Alexander Pearce Alexander Pearce
    04/08/09

    In reply to Giz Explains: What a RAID Hard Drive Array Is (and Why You Want One)
    Your MOTHERBOARD needs to support RAID...


    So don't get too excited people... If you're board has no RAID support then you have to upgrade that first...


    RAID 0 is the bomb...


    And Western Digital drives are the bomb too... I've had 3 Seagate drives fail me... None of the WD have failed... Haven't tried Hitachi yet...

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    04/08/09

    Your MOTHERBOARD needs to support RAID...


    FALSE. You can obtain RAID controller add-on cards from anywhere between $13 and $3000 -- You get what you pay for in the low-end range, though. A temperamental RAID controller can cost you all of your data, even if you have a RAID 6 array.


    RAID 0 is the bomb...


    FALSE. RAID 0 is generally the best performer, but not only does it have no redundancy, it increases the chances that you will lose all of your data. If you lose any 1 of the X disks you have in the array, then all of your data is gone gone gone.


    You don't need a new mobo. Just get a raid controller card.


    SEMI-TRUE. As I said above, you can indeed do that. You do not need a RAID controller card however, because most OSes nowadays support RAID at the software level. (Windows consumer products generally will only do RAID 0 or 1, whereas Windows server can do RAID 0 through 5, and Linux can do all). Of course, doing RAID at the OS level means more CPU overhead, and a slower array overall (compared to a good RAID controller and depending upon the configuration of the array(s)).


    The advantage is that an array created in, for example, Windows, will be transportable into any other Windows system that supports that RAID level. Most cheap controller cards do not exactly follow standards, and so the array may not be transportable. In other words, you are stuck with that brand and model of controller card for the rest of the life of your array -- no upgrading. In fact, trying to change over to a different controller card can wipe all of your data, especially with anything but RAID1 or 0. I've seen it happen (again, mostly with low-end cards).


    I've heard most mobo raids use the CPU to do the parity stuff.


    TRUE. Most mobo RAIDs are absolute shit, and do use the host CPU for everything. The RAID controller on the mobo is probably going to be the same as the controller chip on a $20 PCIe card, and I wouldn't trust it with a 10ft. data-pole. One major advantage of RAID arrays is their resiliency. Using a crappy controller card completely mitigates that resiliency. (You'd spend, lets say, $400 on disks, but $20 on a RAID card? Sounds like a bad idea).


    High-end cards (some too high end for the average consumer) will generally have their own processors and use no more host CPU time than a single-disk controller (this is true of most external RAID enclosures as well), and they will also have a cache. Look for those features in your RAID controllers (but make sure you get a battery-backed write cache if you use the write cache.. that's a story for a different day).


    Also, what does RAID imply for BitTorrenters?


    RAID is great for torrenting because (if you have a fast enough internet pipe and/or are regularly unpacking RARs) it can increase your disk bandwidth significantly. Torrent up/downloading can stress your disk with a lot of random read/writes (the slowest way to use a disk).


    I used a RAID0 array for a while to host my incomplete and completed directories because it could keep up with the many many many random read/writes that torrenting brings. I didn't need redundancy there, because once something was done downloading I'd copy it to my file server (which has RAID1 and RAID5 arrays).


    Hope that clears things up.


    [/end rant]

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