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    Image of Gary_7vn Gary_7vn
    12/08/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Dedicated GPS's are on the way out, the same is true for eBooks, a mere transistional form. Buy one if you want one, but tablets with better screens will kill the dedicated eBook.
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    Image of Demonbird Demonbird
    12/08/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    The biggest problem for e-readers now is book pricing.
    In many cases the ebooks cost just pennies less than physical copies, with all of the restricted use that goes with the digital download. Ereaders are not purchased at their premium price to save pennies per purchase, and the companies have no right charging even 80% of full price for a digital restricted copy of a book.
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    Image of tamoko tamoko
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Great review Wilson, and thanks for the unboxing pix, but I'm still on the fence about which e-reader to indulge in... I'll wait for some more competitors to enter the frey...
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    Image of tamoko tamoko
    12/07/09

    @tamoko: Although your brick and mortar support comment does ring very true.
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    Image of MePerson MePerson
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    How does the glare on the Nook's screens, i.e. outside in bright daylight, compare to the Kindle's screen? The eInk screen is probably similar to the Kindle, but I can see that touchscreen being completely washed out outdoors, where it's most useful.
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    Image of bitgod bitgod
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    So to paraphrase the beginning, "these are the two devices to look at if you plan on buying all your books, and if you plan on not buying a lot of books (because FSM knows that Gizmodo readers aren't torrenters and hackers) then get a Sony"
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    Image of bitgod bitgod
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Bah, B&N's store stinks, or at least their website does. I like comparing prices between amazon and sony's store, so I went looking on B&N for Bill Simmon's The Book of Basketball.

    I typed in Bill Simmons, and it gave me 3 pages of results, A LOT of which were duplicates, and NONE were for any of the Bill Simmons I was looking for.

    Now if I search on Amazon, the book I'm looking for is the first thing it showed.

    I might look at a Nook in say 2 years, after they shake themselves out. For now, I'm perfectly happy with my Sony.
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    Image of Jolim Jolim
    12/07/09

    @bitgod: Came up fine for me, I just copy and pasted what you typed. Sure you didn't misspell something in your search?
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    bitgod promoted this comment Edited by Jolim at 12/07/09 6:27 PM Jolim was starred Jolim was unstarred
    Image of bitgod bitgod
    12/07/09

    @Jolim: Odd, not to think I'm paranoid or something, but I checked it again after the last post thinking maybe I typoed his name, but still didn't get it. I just tried it now, and it works. I note their price is higher than Amazons and Sony's. (but prices always vary between books, I can find another one that's more expensive at Sony compared to the other 2 stores)

    They must have fixed it, because the 3 pages of things it finds are the same things it found in my first 2 searches.
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    Image of blash blash
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Watching the video of the interface on Engadget... this thing barely qualifies as a PROTOTYPE.

    Seriously, B&N, fire your engineers and find better ones, there's plenty of good talent out there. I can't believe anyone would pass off the Nook's slow-ass interface as their best, polished work. It's disgusting. Why buy eBooks when I could (sarcasm here -) fill the time needed to open a book by reading - and finishing - a paper book?

    Those of you who wonder why Apple doesn't have an eReader yet - the Nook is exactly why. Honestly, take the Nook in your hands at a B&N when you get the chance, and ask - is this something that Apple would make? Is this something that had designers with half a brain trying to actually make FUNCTIONAL products and not just salaries? Does this instill that sense of childhood wonder of simplicity and speed?

    No - it doesn't. Because this is an engineering prototype sent to market. It seems like hardware companies are starting to adopt the practice of software companies to treat their customers as free beta testers. If you have any independent thinking you will REJECT devices like the Nook, regardless of apologetic and defeatist reviews at the major tech blogs.
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    Image of zåɳzißarleɠёпȡ zåɳzißarleɠёпȡ
    12/07/09

    @blash: tell us how you really feel!

    !^_^}

    but seriously dude, i think that waiting for an apple tablet might be best. we can almost deduce that

    -portability
    -screen resolution
    -ease of navigation

    will prob best all these current e-book readers.

    i was gonna get this for my wife, but i think your comments just made me put the safety on the wallet trigger.

    thanks.
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    blash promoted this comment zåɳzißarleɠёпȡ was starred zåɳzißarleɠёпȡ was unstarred
    Image of blash blash
    12/07/09

    @zåɳzißarleɠёпȡ: We don't know when such an Apple tablet would come along, though frankly, from how people are raving about eReaders you would think reading paper books was hell. It's not. It may take quite some time for Apple to come out with a tablet but you wouldn't really lose anything by waiting.

    And in response to some unapproved commenters, no I do not hold Apple shares. In fact, I think Apple has been a load of crap in recent years - no true innovation has come out of Apple since the original introduction of the iPhone in 2007 and the resurgence of Steve Jobs's medical problems - and there's still a load of bull surrounding their app approval policies. But I do not deny that what products they do make are good (even if their computers are overpriced).
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    Image of B52HVet B52HVet
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Wilson,

    Thanks for the great review, I've been seriously considering a nook since I first heard about them. One quick question... You sort of touched on PDFs, so I'm assuming there's no issues with loading/importing them for access on the nook? I'm using PDFs on nearly a daily basis for work, wondering if the e-ink screen can keep up with the graphs commonly used in reports?
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Well, if you look at the negatives that Wilson pointed out they are both things that could easily be fixed in the near future. I especially think the second screen could see some increased utilization.
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    Image of otko's pic is back otko's pic is back
    12/07/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: Indeed. Just think how nice the second gen model is going to be. If I get one, I will have to wait for either a second gen or maybe a software update. I'll never early adopt anything again.
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    12/07/09

    @otko: We may not need to wait until 2nd gen though. These are issues they could fix with software updates from the sound of it.
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    Image of otko's pic is back otko's pic is back
    12/07/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: A software update would be acceptable. I already love the hardware, it seems way more advanced than the 1st Kindle. This article and the Nook have completely changed my view on the e-book scene. I really want one, but I want to know the kinks and issues first, and I want them worked out prior to getting one. After that, I'm sold.
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Great review.

    As someone who has been caught in the early adopter trap many, many times before, I'm definitely not racing to buy a nook. All too often I have purchased a device thinking that bugs would be fixed promptly and the promise of new features would be filled quickly, only to be disappointed. I am wiser now, and I never buy a device for what it might do in the future, only what it can do now.

    The one open question that I have about the nook is about sideloading documents. I'm still very mad at Amazon for raising their fees for wireless delivery of my own content, which went from a flat $0.10 to $0.15 per meg of the original document, rounded up. Not that I do it that often, but it's a big jump - effectively a 300% increase for a lot of ebooks in Word or PDF format, and potentially even more. Granted, Amazon will still convert them for free via email and I can load them with my USB, but it takes away a lot of the convenience. How does the nook handle this? Can it even convert documents from DOC, HTML, JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP, TXT, RTF, MOBI, or PRC? Is it free to send wirelessly to nook? I guess even if it is, that could change (as Amazon has shown).
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    Edited by weatherman at 12/07/09 4:59 AM weatherman was starred weatherman was unstarred
    Image of blash blash
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Great review. I still think that the eBook market is nascent - it will mature properly by next year or 2011.

    Right now, I have my money on the Kindle. For all the awesomeness that browsing in a bookstore with a Nook will be, I just don't see it happening for most people when they can purchase books from anywhere with a cellular connection. People will read book reviews online and purchase books online. B&N is betting on brick-and-mortar because none of their higher-ups are willing to realize that brick-and-mortar, as a general business model, is failing and will be completely dead within a decade for everything from clothes to groceries to electronics (especially).

    In the meantime, Amazon has a better catalogue, international support (which, for those of us to whom that matters, is a big deal), and suggestions of multi-user lending. The problem? Their hardware needs more work. Like I said, the industry is still very much in its infancy, but I would not be betting on B&N right now.

    I would not be surprised if Amazon made a big push for their other services with the Kindle - like offering 6 months of free Amazon Prime with purchase, in a push to completely supplant retail for consumers.
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    Image of Benjamin Gold Benjamin Gold
    12/07/09

    @blash: "Amazon has a better catalogue."? Actually, B&N has m0re than twice the number of eBooks Amazon has.
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    blash promoted this comment Wilson Rothman approved this comment Benjamin Gold was starred Benjamin Gold was unstarred
    Image of blash blash
    12/07/09

    @Benjamin Gold: They're all free books out of copyright though. It's good material but it's not new stuff. I look on Amazon for new stuff and pretty much anything I find on Amazon from mainstream publishers is on the Kindle. Not true with the Nook.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Great review.

    I own a G1 Kindle, and love it. In my opinion, however, the smartest thing Amazon could do is get out of the hardware race and simply license their entire Kindle library for use on other e-ink devices, like this. They'd win by not having to compete in an area they don't normally play in (making things) and excel in an area they're best at (delivering things).

    That said, one benefit I see to having more than one quality e-book system on the market is that competition always fuels better products at lower prices. I look forward to what both of these companies have in store for us in coming years.
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    Image of abates25 abates25
    12/07/09

    @Segador: Well said. Let Amazon be the iTunes to other peoples hardware. Also, if Apple does release a tablet with eBook capabilities, it's mass appeal will kill both the Kindle and the Nook (and any other proprietary eBook reader).
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    12/07/09

    @abates25: And let's not forget that B&N is playing both sides of this game, sharing its store with other hardware makers but putting out a compelling reader of its own. I think that's really how Amazon should play it too.

    And yes, both B&N and Kindle will have pretty serious presences on Apple Tablet—you can bet a lot of money on that (not that anyone would bet against you).
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    Image of Poop Cooper Poop Cooper
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    Great, comprehensive review Wilson.

    Quick question: how did it actually feel when you were handling the Nook versus the Kindle? When handling the Kindle I was always under the feeling that I was handling something a tad more delicate, but looking at the Nook, do you think that this is something that I could safely travel with throwing it in a backpack, taking it through airport security, throwing it under the chair in front of me, etc.? It looks more substantial than the Kindle, but all of that extra screen also slightly worries me.
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    12/07/09

    @Poop Cooper: Honestly, they both feel equally substantial, but equally capable of being smashed on the floor if I accidentally dropped them. The Nook is thicker, but that isn't to say it feels somehow less delicate. And to your point, I am equally apprehensive about throwing either one into my backpack, after what Matt Buchanan did to our original Kindle!
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    Image of Stndsh0 Stndsh0
    12/07/09

    In reply to Barnes & Noble Nook Review: Pretty Damn Good
    The Apple Tablet, if there is one, will kill your eyes with the LCD screen.

    Great article, now I actually want an e-reader.
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    Image of ghmlco ghmlco
    12/07/09

    @Stndsh0: Right! So what else can you tell us about the Tablet that... wait... you haven't actually seen one, have you?

    ASSumptions, assumptions....
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    Image of Stndsh0 Stndsh0
    12/07/09

    @ghmlco: I based that assumption off of Giz's mockup. [gizmodo.com]
    That sure as hell looks like an LCD. It is also logical; if the tablet is an evolution of the iPhone, then it should be able to do everything the iPhone can, like, say, play a color video. No e-ink displays that I know of can do that, I think we can eliminate plama because it hogs energy, so all that is really left is LDC or LED.

    I think you should know that yours shift key is acting up.
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    Edited by Stndsh0 at 12/07/09 2:32 AM Stndsh0 was starred Stndsh0 was unstarred
    Image of Sockatume Sockatume
    12/04/09

    In reply to Withings Wi-Fi Scale Review (A Scale For the Year 2010)
    AAA batteries for power! I was worried it would be some proprietary or, heaven forbid, unreplacable lithium-ion job, but if it's put together properly it could indeed last a lifetime.
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