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PhilanderSisyphus
05/08/09

In reply to This Is How You Record a TV With a Camcorder So You're Just an MPAA Toolbag, Not a Pirate
Hmmm - I am doing this almost every second weekend. Recording the F1 GP via my macbook with built in camera for my wife (working late). Just too lazy to get a recording device since I have (besides this one) no other need for it. So the macbook does me just fine. Does this mean Bernie can't slap me with his b.lls.ck? Even the better!!!
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05/08/09

@PhilanderSisyphus: There's these things called torrents, I hear you can find all sorts of stuff on them *cough BBC-F1 cough*
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frigg
05/07/09

In reply to This Is How You Record a TV With a Camcorder So You're Just an MPAA Toolbag, Not a Pirate
That's awesome.

Since I'd love to show this instructional video clip on my own website, I've set up my camcorder and am recording it off the Giz site, and then will import it into iMovie and export it in a web-compatible format I can upload to my site. Works like a champ!

Then, if anyone sees it on my website and would like to show it on theirs, I'd be happy to lend them my camcorder along with instructions so they can tape it from my site and get it up and running on their site in no time at all!

This digital technology... it's amazing what it can do!
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bosskev
05/07/09

In reply to This Is How You Record a TV With a Camcorder So You're Just an MPAA Toolbag, Not a Pirate
OK, folks, here is what is at stake and here is why the MPAA put this (ridiculous) video together (emphasis added):

At the DMCA 1201 hearings at the Copyright Office at the Library of Congress, representatives from the MPAA showed a video demonstrating how users can videorecord a TV set. They argue this is an acceptable analog alternative to breaking copy protection on a DVD.

The hearings occur every three years to determine whether the Librarian at the Library of Congress (through direction of the Copyright Office) should create exemptions to the anti-circumvention provisions in the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

In 2006, film and media professors were granted an exemption in order to break copy protection on DVDs so that they could utilize high quality video clips in classroom teaching. Up for consideration during the 2009 exemption hearings is whether this exemption should be extended to apply to faculty teaching in all disciplines, and whether the exemption should apply to students.

So, apparently, the MPAA is fighting the extension and/or expansion of the exemption, saying that this idiotic technique is suitable for classroom purposes. I don't know about most teachers, but I sure don't have time to set up a camcorder to capture a TV screen and get substandard quality.
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spannu
05/07/09

@bosskev: Most teachers don't even have time to show anything on TV, and unless it's a better school/higher education, they would have to bring their own DVD player/DVD anyway. Basically, this is just an excuse to make hearings seem worthwhile, when the whole thing (DMCA) is just a huge dirty diaper that someone forgot to throw away.
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joelydanger
05/07/09

@bosskev: I wonder if they can take themselves seriously when they're trying to present this. This is so ridiculous. But there's one thing I don't get. They're getting the Audio straight from the DVD player right? So its ok to copy the audio straight from the source and not the video? Just give them the exemption. Teachers have a hard time as it is, and this is only going to make things more difficult for them.
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bosskev
05/07/09

@spannu: Agreed about the dirty diaper analogy. Still, it is not about bringing or using a DVD player in the classroom--it is about the fact that, as of 2006, certain teachers were granted the legal right to RIP fair-use segments from commercial DVDs via copy-protection breaking tools like Handbrake.

The advantage here to an educator is HUGE, i.e., to already have the pertinent sections edited and pieced together ready to show.
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frigg
05/07/09

@joelydanger: Of course, the audio is going through a d/a conversion, and then back to an a/d conversion.

If there were a device to similarly convert the digital video to analog, and then back to digital, strictly for the purpose of downgrading quality by a negligible generation of d/a/d conversion, I wonder if that would pass their test? After all, the whole purpose of this ridiculous contraption is to artificially cause generational loss of quality.

Since that's what seems to pacify the MPAA, they might as well just release a video plug-in for teachers that adds noise and distortion to video clips used in the classroom since it would have the same effect.

Or for teachers who are less video savvy, perhaps the MPAA could just supply bags of scratched up sun glasses for students to wear in class whenever the teacher shows a video, to replicate generational loss without the fuss.
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TheDoomer
05/07/09

In reply to This Is How You Record a TV With a Camcorder So You're Just an MPAA Toolbag, Not a Pirate
I've never seen a teacher that ripped a movie for class, they always had the actual disc. Other than that........seriously MPAA? seriously?
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05/08/09

@TheDoomer: The issue here is that teachers are wanting to rip the video so that they can incorporate portions of it into their classes. Like an archeology professor could take a bunch of Indiana Jones clips where he's recklessly looting some temple, "splice" them back to back, and say "This is an example of what not to do"... rather than waste a bunch of class time swapping DVDs around and cuing up scenes.
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Windhawk
05/07/09

In reply to This Is How You Record a TV With a Camcorder So You're Just an MPAA Toolbag, Not a Pirate
MPAA 2.0: "Use a number 2 pencil and draw the scene from the DVD just so. Then flip the pages quickly and you've got a pirate-free copy of the DVD you just watched."
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RT100
05/07/09

@Windhawk: Oh that would still be piracy. You never mentioned getting permission from the copyright holders to do this. Oh and the permission has to be requested via first class letter
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05/08/09

@rt100: And notarized by three unrelated people.
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Dafrety
02/28/09

In reply to How To: Rip Blu-ray Discs
If only I could find a matching drive for my laptop. I have the screen, I have the processing power and video card, I just need the drive. The Dell Inspiron has the same case more or less as my vostro, I just can't find any of the drives.
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ZLevee
02/28/09

@Dafrety: are you opposed to an external unit? 'Cause even if you don't want to pay the premium on an exteranl one, you could get an internal desktop model and pop it into an external drive housing.
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mikecoscia
02/28/09

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I wanna learn how to convert Blu-ray to DVD. So I can bring over to friends or use on portable DVD players.
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ZLevee
02/28/09

@mikecoscia: Again, AnyDVD and Nero 9's Vision.
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ZLevee
02/28/09

In reply to How To: Rip Blu-ray Discs
USe AnyDVD HD with Nero Vision (but not a version prior to Nero 9, the first edition to support blu-ray).

Be aware Nero 9's installation might make you want to rip the balls off Nero's programmers.
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Tom Jun
02/28/09

In reply to How To: Rip Blu-ray Discs
this is equivalent to purchasing a lamborghini diablo, then keeping the steering wheel and changing the rest of the car out with a honda civic. what the hell is the point of buying a blu ray disc and converting it down to an iPhone.

hell the battery on the iPhone wouldnt even last long enough to play through the entire movie probably.. unless you turn off 3G, Wifi and everything else for that matter. hell, turn off the phone. go to a 37inch + tv and watch it on HD with BR.

i'm sure if you can afford an iphone, you can afford a tv and a br player.
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Tom Jun
03/01/09

@Tom Jun: First of all, I have a giz account that I've been using for a year. So stop with the omg he's a facebooker = boycott! I can post on this account can't I? You're just being totally biased already by admitting that.

Anyway, I find this totally redundant. You're telling me, with your current dvd's , you guys who complained, you all convert those movies onto iPhone format? Just so you can watch this on the go?

As mentioned before, the Dark Knight comes in a digital format as well, to prevent this blu ray burning. I'm obviously not arguing that you carry your TV's and BR players around, but, comon, this is totally ridiculous. If you know about Giz, it's probably likely that you know how to download movies that are already formatted for the iPhone. If you already own the movie, why not just download an alternate version from those sources? Which by the way takes 2 hours, instead of 10+ hours of work to convert it from BR to iPhone format?

You're all telling me, that you have Blu Ray burners, which cost 200$ avg. and you go through all that trouble of converting your BR's to iPhone format? I find that totally unbelievable. Why would you purchase a 25$ + blu ray disc in order to watch it on an iPhone? Besides, you're telling me that for EVERY movie you burn, you're willing to sacrifice 80 gigs per movie? Horse-f*cking-shit. This is totally redundant for this time and age. Maybe a few years down the line, like when BR become where DVD's are now.
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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@Tom Jun: It's really not so much about how we're all ocd and have to have all of our movies with us at all times. But I certainly am happy to have learned how to rip a BD to a portable format just in case I ever wanted to.

But congrats on being the last pointlessly angry douche-nozzle.
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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@Tom Jun: P.S. - Go back to facebook you whiny bitch.
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balls187
02/28/09

In reply to How To: Rip Blu-ray Discs
Dark Knight came with a digital copy...

Also +1 to TPB comments.
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Radical-J
02/28/09

@balls187: Dark Knight came with a digital copy...

No Dark Knight came with a code that would enable you to 'purchase' a digital copy for $1.99
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balls187
03/01/09

@Radical-J: No. It was a free copy.
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JonThomasDesigns
02/28/09

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I dont get why you cant just get the Largest M2ts file after anydvd RIP ? .. it works fine .. why do anything else ? i just take the largest M2ts and play it in my PCH100
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nobodyzhome
02/28/09

@jonthomasdesigns:PCH FTW.
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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@nobodyzhome:

Arbotech Power Chisel. #PCH100 ???

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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@bpapa9013: K, so I am only joking, but google "pch100" and see what comes up as #1...
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wingbatwu
02/28/09

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Gizmodo hit by cease and desist in 3... 2...
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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@wingbatwu: arguable, what I really don't get is how AnyDVD hasn't been sued into the next world.
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theDreamer
02/28/09

In reply to How To: Rip Blu-ray Discs
Or just use AnyDVD-HD to rip to .ISO and download Virtual Clone Drive (free from slysoft) and mount the disc as if it were a real disc. No fuss over encoding or getting codecs to work. Note: This is a 1:1 copy so it will take a 30(+)GB of space per movie, but with this you have all the menus, subtitles, etc.
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taking_this_easy
02/28/09

@theDreamer: i guess rip as in u want a smaller version instead of clone...
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TBM-Fan
02/28/09

@taking_this_easy: yet clone is better to be released that way everyone can have their own stuff and it should work everywhere
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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@TBM-Fan: Cuz nothing is more fun that spending a week (and half your monthly bandwidth) to download a torrent that you will still have to rip/transcode to play on your phone/pmp...
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Drew420
02/28/09

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About time...

Now if only they can sell the damn things for less than $35 a pop, maybe I'll be able to add some new movies to my library.
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KernelG
02/28/09

@Drew420: Don't buy Blu-ray from retailers who treat it like a scary niche product. Amazon has been my source and I haven't spent more than $26 on a single one. Most have been under $19. Their prices can change daily.

I checked while at Target the other day, since their DVD prices are usually good. It looked like all their BD selection was at full list price. It was surreal.
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IN THE FACE!
03/01/09

@KernelG: The Target in my town has an HD kiosk playing this really obnoxious BD promo video on a loop, but after I finally bit and went looking for their BD movies I realized that this particular Target Store hadn't even started stocking BD movies yet...
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