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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/14/09

    In reply to A Few More Nexus One Google Phone Details
    Just a quick note based on what I've seen in the comments about Android 2.1: Google Goggles isn't 2.1 specific, you can install it now.
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    12/14/09

    In reply to A Few More Nexus One Google Phone Details
    It's going to be sold $100 not $600. The bill of material on the phone is below $150, manufacturing costs per phone is below $15. Google can subsidize it to $100 unlocked if you buy it through an active Google account. I think it'll even come with free 100mb data usage per month, enough for as much Google Voice, Gtalk, Gmail, App pings and image-less browsing that you want. With 1GB for $10 in the US and 1GB for less than 5€ in Europe.
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    Image of Mikestan Mikestan
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    Well of course Google employees aren't going to say "The Google phone sucks".
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Confirms They're Testing a "Mobile Lab" Device
    I wonder if Google will be "reselling" connections to T-Mobile's 3G network, assuming they're trying to push the VoiP and data approach. That might explain T-Mobile's recent efforts to expand 3G and upgrade speeds. Was it ever 100% confirmed that "Project Black" referred to T-Mobile's recent pricing restructure, and not... something else?
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    12/12/09

    @Killjoy: No it wasn't really.

    Thats how I'm thinking it works. Though I imagine its not going to be limited to just T-mobile.
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    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    If Google decide to brand and sell their own phone (even if it's actually built by HTC)... how is that going to affect 3rd parties who want to ship Android phones, like Motorola? I can't imagine they'd be terribly thrilled to be competing against Google on a phone running Google's mobile OS.

    My understanding is this is the prime reason why Microsoft always refuses to build their own phone.

    So what happens if Google does this, and Microsoft releases WinMo7 next year and it doesn't suck?
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    12/12/09

    @jepzilla: The consumer wins?

    I don't see the concerns of google in a hardware sense if everything shakes out the way that it sounds like it is.

    They're not concerned about it because they can still make handsets that go to the carriers and keep their relationship alive as it has been.
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    12/12/09

    @tande04: In the eyes of the phone manufacturers, it's unfair competition. Google phone will run the latest and greatest software, while they are stuck with old stuff.
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    12/12/09

    @kidphat (loves bumblebee girl): I don't know about that. I haven't seen anything saying that they're holding back 2.1 for only themselves.
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    12/13/09

    @kidphat: I don't think they're going to hold anything back to other phones, there may be a few extra features and advantages, but that's any phone. The Hero got Sense UI, which I would say is a big step up from other android OS phones. Not to mention, I'm expecting 2.1 to come to the hero in the near future.

    To be honest, I'm trying to see how this is any more the "Google phone" than the G1 was. Hardware by HTC, Software by google, maybe a unique UI. Sounds like half of HTC's current line.
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    12/13/09

    @Ninety-9: That's what I was thinking...I don't see much difference between this and the G1 as far as it being Google's.
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    Image of Segador Segador
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Confirms They're Testing a "Mobile Lab" Device
    If Google was serious about not leaking this stuff, employees wouldn't be walking around with them. They want this leaked; it's great PR.
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    12/12/09

    @Segador: Oh yeah. If they didn't want people tweeting it I'm sure they would have said, "don't tweet this" when they handed them out.

    Makes more sense to me personally. You just wouldn't want to do it too far from the release of the phone. Rumors are already popping up that say Jan which makes sense from a 'buzz' perspective.
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    12/12/09

    @tande04: As long as it's at least as good as the iPhone 4, they'll be fine. If not, well... at least they had 6 months.
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    12/12/09

    @Segador: Not that it matters, seeing as how this is Android, the OS that allows constant innovation in hardware and software.

    I'm actually curious, will this be the year that the iPhone actually gets a real update? First time, add 3G and memory. Second time...add memory and make it faster.

    How about some real changes to the OS and hardware?
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    12/12/09

    @jon.athan: Didn't the Foxconn rumors suggest that the iPhone was getting an almost-complete overhaul?
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    12/12/09

    @Segador: The last Foxconn rumors I heard had it mixed up with the zii egg.
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    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    Interesting.

    It still sounds like the phone is going to be released by google and isn't just another android handset.

    Tmonews has had a couple of stories on it that I haven't seen elsewhere. Here is the latest where they're saying its going to be sold by google but supported by t-mobile:
    [www.tmonews.com]

    Here is one where they first started saying "supported" by t-mobile
    [www.tmonews.com]

    Add that with the fact that there appears to be a CDMA passion and you've got an interesting set up. Could still be data only and work on voip or it could just be a different way of doing things carrier and plan wise. Should be interesting to see in the end.

    Slight aside, I've become somewhat of an android fanboy but I've got to say I don't know if I like this "live wallpapers" thing. I kinda like having the wallpaper I want not some fancy one that sounds like its all for show. Regardless, minor quibble about it.
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    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    By my way of thinking… If they are only giving it to employees; It’s nothing but a fancy Walky-Talky.
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    Image of Yerzriknot Yerzriknot
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    So I guess I shouldn't buy a droid huh?
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    Image of e-friend cuts you e-friend cuts you
    12/12/09

    @Yerzriknot: That's how the Android market, and the larger cell phone market, works! There is always a better phone just around the corner. Not that you shouldn't wait for this one! :P
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    Image of WolfPackWB WolfPackWB
    12/12/09

    @Yerzriknot: Nah, it'll probably come out on AT&T
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    12/12/09

    @WolfPackWB: I doubt apple would like AT&T selling the google's baby. Besides, wouldn't rooting it allow you to use whatever carrier you want?
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    12/12/09

    @Yerzriknot: This is true
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    12/12/09

    @WolfPackWB: I have a source that claims all networks except Sprint and Verizon.
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    12/12/09

    @wingert.Andrew: Sounds like there is going to be a CDMA one too so its going to be all networks.

    What the rumors are sounding like are an unlocked phone with carrier support. You buy from google (I assume get your plan from google, maybe not) and go with whatever carrier behind the scenes that you want.
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    12/12/09

    @wingert.Andrew: Well that figures
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    If the recently rumored Googlephone is the Passion/Bravo/whatever it finally gets named, that would mean no Voip + Data only handset... unless Google plans to provide handsets and data time themselves, using an existing phone to save cost rather than commissioning a new model from the ground up.
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    12/12/09

    @Killjoy: Don't know. There are still rumors of that too. There is a t-mobile blog who's name escapes me at the moment that was one of the first ones to start saying google phone = passion. It was interesting to note there that the person that leaked it just said t-mobile will be supporting it. Could be just a funny way of saying carry but it could also mean that its still going to work some what differently than other handsets. Whether its how it makes calls or perhaps more importantly how its priced.
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    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    And no matter what it looks like, the Apple fanboys will call it ugly, puffy, and awkward.
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    Image of snoop_dizzle snoop_dizzle
    12/12/09

    @HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: You gotta admit the G1 was quite a clunker looks wise. The Droid however, looks quite nice. (Though I must say so does the Nokia N900, which surprised me. )

    As for the Google phone, it probably will look cool, it just better not have a chin. :P
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    12/12/09

    @snoop_dizzle: Oh, I'll agree with that. I withheld judgment on the G1 until I saw it in person... but yeah, in person it's very uninspiring.

    Who knew Motorola would be the company to take Android's impressive workings and build equally-impressive phones out of them? Hell, I wish I could get a Droid on T-Mobile, but I'll probably settle for a Cliq.
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    Image of Logan5 Logan5
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    I would definitely applaud Google for getting into the hardware game. Steve Jobs voiced the view shared by many, that if you love software you have to do hardware. Android will only achieve its potential when the people who designed it give it the hardware it was designed for.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    12/12/09

    In reply to Google Is Handing Out the Google Phone to Employees
    Battery life?
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    Image of hcho321 hcho321
    12/12/09

    I don't know why people make a HUGE DEAL about battery life. It is important, but I have not yet to see any smart phone that does not need a charge everyday. So, stop bitching about battery life.
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    12/12/09

    @hcho321: @dogm1: Wow, some folks got out of the wrong side of the bed this morning.

    It's a legitimate question. I have a Moment. I like it, but battery life is a limiting constraint - shorter than any other device I've had and insufficient to get through 4 hours of sporadic use without charging.
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Rumor: Foxconn May Have Received Order for Next Generation iPhone 4
    Say Hello to iChat.

    Say goodbye to the sorry remains of AT&T's sorry 3G network.
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    12/10/09

    @Ninety-9: Oh, and say hello to people screaming at their phone and the phone screaming back.
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    12/10/09

    In reply to Asus Building Eee Pad to Counter Apple Tablet?
    If it's just for consuming media, a tablet will rock. For anything else, even simple crap like typing this comment, I'll still miss a keyboard.
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