I for one support Rupert and his efforts to remove his "news" from anything but his own networks. Perhaps after the internet is purged of Fox News CNN and others might remember how to be a news channel again. Imagine a world where news reporters actually work to gather the news. I heard of such a time long ago that such a thing was true. A man by the name of Walter spent time researching and getting facts before reporting on stories. It was an odd time when Led Zeppelins, Steel Dans, Bees and Gees roamed the earth, Floyds where Pink and 8 different tracks where all the music you could get on a device. #rupertmurdoch
Anyone can be removed from the Google, it's called the "do not crawl" tag.
Moloch wants to start WWIII with the hajis and charge us to watch. #rupertmurdoch
As a retort to no one in particular. What's with the "hear both sides" crowd?
"I'll get my news with a conservative bias, then I'll get my news with a liberal bias, and I'm covered! I've heard both sides!"
Why the fuck do you want to hear news with a bias at all? If I feel my news is being presented with a bias, it will be discounted until I find unbiased source. I'm pretty damn liberal, but listening to Air America makes my projectile vomit spew just as far as it does when I hear Sean Hannity.
I don't want bias in my news. And if a news source has intentional bias, it's not news!
@elementary: there is no such thing as unbiased news. It's simply not possible. Everyone brings their own predispositions into whatever they choose to write or present, even if they attempt not to. #rupertmurdoch
There are a few details the linked article does not mention.
The reason behind the withdrawal of Newscorp content from Google listings comes from efforts by Newscorp to further capitalize on their editorials, many of which are subscription based.
They often run stories on things other news sources do not. They want the content of their articles to be viewed from their page, and to reduce syndication online to protect their investments in radio and television news by providing them with content that can't be found syndicated through other organizations.
They believe this will give them more editorial control over their content, Allowing them to have their articles appear together, rather than among articles from competing organizations.
The problem is the internet doesn't work that way. They can't control the flow of their content or the context in which it is viewed by the reader. The internet has always been their Achilles heel. They are dominant in TV and radio, but weak online and in print compared to the others. Their efforts to control how the content is delivered often overshadows the efforts to produce more and better quality content.
So Google doesn't give a sh*t? No surprises there. Newscorp has a right to remove them selves from google's index, but their competitors will not. Google news will carry on, with most of their readers never even noticing a difference.
It's too bad. I enjoy sources like Fox news. They are conservatively biased, but they're not the only biased news source around. They provide a sense of balance to the liberally skewed reports you find from MSNBC and CNN. With journalistic integrity being completely dead in media today, I find myself having to read the same story from multiple sources to get past the BS spin people put on the news.
Hey, Fox News can't go down.
Where else would violent games get all the publicity?
And what about looney advocates? They are human too, they have their needs. Ok, not too shure about that last sentence. #rupertmurdoch
@Noobs-R-Us: Frankly, I see it as the difference between Gizmodo and Ars Technica. Ars is fantastic for getting to the bottom of serious issues with real facts and research. They're slanted, like anyone's going to be, but they value truth over emotion.
Gizmodo's the place where you go to find "F*&! you, AT&T!" in the headline.
I mean, both are awesome. Frankly, I read stuff on Ars and want a place where like-minded folk can just yell.
Problem is, major news networks (Fox especially included) are like Gizmodo, but think they're Ars.
I notice Ars is also usually the last to write-up a breaking story, too. They're the best, but the last. Cardinal foul in the pro news world, apparently. #rupertmurdoch
@Noobs-R-Us: You're fooling yourself if you think MSNBC, CNN, or some other Cable news source is any closer to centered, unbiased journalism than Fox News. #rupertmurdoch
@zophiel: and this is the problem with people here. Read more carefully. I said, try to be more objective. That's very different than being "truly objective".
Just about every other news outlet is more so than Fox. On Fox you'll have to try very hard NOT to find propaganda. On other channels it's the other way around. #rupertmurdoch
I would love for this to result in a huge power exhibition where winner takes all and Rupert is sent packing to call in old favors from the Bush family so that he has a place to stay, but that simply won't happen. The truth is that Fox new is the number one cable news network. [www.huffingtonpost.com] I don't know how this can be, as even here in the south it's hard to find admitted viewers. They've become No.1 by heavily inserting opinion into "news" where other stations, which still have some tiny scruples left, either refuse to do so, or do so at a much lower rate. They create a spectacle of themselves, and thus draw attention. Murdoch is doing the same thing now by making such statements. He gets some bad press and gets into a little trouble from other stations, Google, and some bloggers, but in the word of Milhouse: "Trouble is a form of attention." My guess is that he'll back down from this anti-Google stance (he didn't get rich by being stupid) and things will go on as they were before. The only difference is that now people that payed no attention to Fox news stories in Google news results will now notice that they are there. #rupertmurdoch
@Scratic: One thing to remember is that most people get their news from broadcast networks. While other networks have viewers in the 7-8 million range, Fox is #1 in cable news with viewers with about 2 million. There is a huge difference between broadcast news and cable news networks. Most Americans don't watch cable news networks at all, so when Fox News comes out and says "We are #1 in cable news" that doesn't mean much. It's like Jitterbug saying "We're #1 in phones for old people" #rupertmurdoch
@Kaiser-Machead: Jesus Christ, there is no lazier form of "art" than the political cartoon. What a piece of garbage (however true it is). #rupertmurdoch
In other news Fox News and and the New Yorks Post newspaper are suing Google News over the news that the news of their news being removed from Google News appeared on Google News after appearing on Fox News. #rupertmurdoch
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Moloch wants to start WWIII with the hajis and charge us to watch. #rupertmurdoch
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"I'll get my news with a conservative bias, then I'll get my news with a liberal bias, and I'm covered! I've heard both sides!"
Why the fuck do you want to hear news with a bias at all? If I feel my news is being presented with a bias, it will be discounted until I find unbiased source. I'm pretty damn liberal, but listening to Air America makes my projectile vomit spew just as far as it does when I hear Sean Hannity.
I don't want bias in my news. And if a news source has intentional bias, it's not news!
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The reason behind the withdrawal of Newscorp content from Google listings comes from efforts by Newscorp to further capitalize on their editorials, many of which are subscription based.
They often run stories on things other news sources do not. They want the content of their articles to be viewed from their page, and to reduce syndication online to protect their investments in radio and television news by providing them with content that can't be found syndicated through other organizations.
They believe this will give them more editorial control over their content, Allowing them to have their articles appear together, rather than among articles from competing organizations.
The problem is the internet doesn't work that way. They can't control the flow of their content or the context in which it is viewed by the reader. The internet has always been their Achilles heel. They are dominant in TV and radio, but weak online and in print compared to the others. Their efforts to control how the content is delivered often overshadows the efforts to produce more and better quality content.
So Google doesn't give a sh*t? No surprises there. Newscorp has a right to remove them selves from google's index, but their competitors will not. Google news will carry on, with most of their readers never even noticing a difference.
It's too bad. I enjoy sources like Fox news. They are conservatively biased, but they're not the only biased news source around. They provide a sense of balance to the liberally skewed reports you find from MSNBC and CNN. With journalistic integrity being completely dead in media today, I find myself having to read the same story from multiple sources to get past the BS spin people put on the news.
This is a bad move. #rupertmurdoch
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Where else would violent games get all the publicity?
And what about looney advocates? They are human too, they have their needs. Ok, not too shure about that last sentence. #rupertmurdoch
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Not really, some actually try to be objective as possible. Fox goes the other way #rupertmurdoch
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Gizmodo's the place where you go to find "F*&! you, AT&T!" in the headline.
I mean, both are awesome. Frankly, I read stuff on Ars and want a place where like-minded folk can just yell.
Problem is, major news networks (Fox especially included) are like Gizmodo, but think they're Ars.
I notice Ars is also usually the last to write-up a breaking story, too. They're the best, but the last. Cardinal foul in the pro news world, apparently. #rupertmurdoch
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Tell me ONE news outlet that is truly "objective"
I'll wait patiently, but I highly doubt you will find one
Every Liberal is scared of Fox because they aren't kissing Dear Leader's ass every other report #rupertmurdoch
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Just about every other news outlet is more so than Fox. On Fox you'll have to try very hard NOT to find propaganda. On other channels it's the other way around. #rupertmurdoch
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@Nick: #rupertmurdoch
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But without Fox, we wouldn't be able to enjoy their high quality content! *SOBS PROFUSELY* #rupertmurdoch
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@Joewithay: That's it, you're being sued too... Muahahaha
#rupertmurdoch