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Weihovah
07/30/09

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i'll wait for the lumix version
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DeusExMach wonders what the hell happened to his star.
07/30/09

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I bet that thing's shutter-sound goes off like a howitzer.

It doesn't just take pictures. It kidnaps, rapes, kills, and dismembers them, and then leaves the corpses tied up in a garbage bag out in the woods.
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Noobs-R-Us
07/30/09

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Isn't it much cheaper to just go buy a Red?
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apus
07/30/09

@Noobs-R-Us: It's hard to buy things that don't exist. And then: No, Red's MF sensor will cost considerably more.

That said, if Red delivers on its promises, they might very well become the sole manufacturer of digital backs, at least in the higher price range.
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FooSchnickens - BPH Free
07/30/09

@apus: Erm, first off, Reds DO exist. Quite a few, in fact. My buddy owns one and always flaunts it when he comes by the shop. So dreamy~ Perhaps you were referring to the Scarlet and Epic, which haven't been released yet. Their ONE bodies start at $9000 less than the S2 and that small chunk of change would go a long way towards their MF-sized sensor, or maybe even all of it depending on the pricing.

Granted, we're kinda comparing apples to oranges here. Production-quality HD video cameras and Studio-quality still cameras are a bit hard to compare. Once the Scarlet gets released we'll see how they stack up.

That said, even still grabs from a ONE are astonishing.
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apus
07/30/09

@FooSchnickens:You are right, of course Reds do exist, but at far smaller sensor sizes and resolutions. Though the Red One wouldn't be considered a substitute for somebody considering a camera with a sensor larger than full frame 35mm, I think.
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FooSchnickens - BPH Free
07/30/09

@apus: True, but at least the standard sensor size is a full 35mm that's easily expandable to a ridiculous 210mm sensor. -_-

I'd take either, really.
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apus
07/30/09

@FooSchnickens:My post wasn't against Red, I love the company. If they manage to get the dynamic range they advertise, Epic would be the first sensor that isn't ridiculous in the eye of someone used to film (not slide, the real thing).

The Leica though is targeted at people who want more than DSLR 35 resolution, but are happier with that kind of body design than a classical MF SLR.

And there are good reasons for that: MF cameras are slower to handle, this would be a point for fashion people. The Leica has better burst rates than a Hasselblad as well. It's nothing compared to the Epic 645, though, but that won't ship for some time, and Red's dates of availability may change considerably. And even when they ship, Red has long waiting lists for pretty much everything they sell. Telling paying clients to wait until the superior system finally ships is not an option.
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suburbancowboy
07/30/09

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This will be owned by rich people who have no photography skills.

I used to own a high-end A/V install business. We would install great audio systems for people who had the worst taste in music, and had like 80 cds in their collection. They just had to have the best equipment to show off when they had parties.
I see this camera finding its way into the hands of many of the same people.
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FuturePastNow
07/30/09

@suburbancowboy: This will be owned by people who make obscene amounts of money taking pictures for magazines and advertising.
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PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
07/30/09

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I'm no professional photographer, but I can't even imagine an application where you would need a camera like this.
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loriensleafs
07/30/09

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Why in the world does it cost that much. Seems like a lot of these high end products just use expensive materials that don't actually make them function better (and if they do not the price difference better). It is ridiculous that rich people want to support "rich brands" just so they can own the brand name. It's a complete waste.
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sweetness666
07/30/09

@loriensleafs: Yes, of course, it's a conspiracy of the rich to annoy you with expensive products, or, these are specialist tools that serve a market and a purpose.
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apus
07/30/09

@loriensleafs: It's mostly the sensor. MF digital backs always cost in that range.

And as said before: It's a professional tool. If you shoot a production that costs 10s of thousands a day, you don't use the joke that is 35mm. Professionally 35mm is only used for journalism. Otherwise you use the largest format you can reasonably handle and with digital, that's quite expensive.
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ilovexspin
03/02/09

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i'm just going to be frank: it looks like piece of shit.
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Hello Mister Walrus
03/02/09

@ilovexspin: Leicas are more utilitarian than stylish. If you put all your style points into function, it is likely that the product will not be pretty.
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