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TrollSlayer
06/08/09

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Do the initials B.L. also stand for "Broken Link"?
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Nick
06/08/09

@TrollSlayer: having the same problem with some of the images too
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GitEmSteveDave_Isn'tFreshPerked
06/08/09

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In other news: GitEmSteveDave will be dubbed "World's Fastest GitEmSteveDave" tomorrow.
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Nick
06/08/09

@Auto-Erotic_GitEmSteveDave-ation: but today i still hold the trophy
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Nick
06/08/09

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i am excited to give safari a try. i mean -- why not?
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MS-18E Shadoblak
06/08/09

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Safari 4 is hella fast. But after tweaking the about:config, Firefox is faster.
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Nick
06/08/09

@MS-18E Shadoblak: so are you saying Safari "just works?"
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Taurus_McGee
06/08/09

@MS-18E Shadoblak: Care to elaborate for those of us who don't know how to tweak Firefox into super-duper speeds?
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Trai_Dep
06/08/09

@Taurus_McGee: Avoid my mistake: blowing pharmaceutical-grade powders into the optical drive slot just gums everything up.
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yoshi
02/26/09

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I like the new version. Although it does seem a little slow at times but I am hoping this is just the beta collecting data or something causing it.
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MrBlahBlah
02/25/09

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Its good, but the zoom freature on my macbook air isn't all that great. very jerky. if i pinch a little nothing happens. If i do a slightly bigger pinch, it zooms way in or way out. very difficult to control finely.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
02/25/09

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I haven't even downloaded it yet and not sure if I'm even going to bother either..
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Kaiser-Machead
02/25/09

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I only use beta browsers to sift through sites that don't deal with sensitive data. Never make a beta browser your primary means of internet use, lest ye wish to be phished out the ass.
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Mayor McRib
02/25/09

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I tested it briefly and liked what I saw. I have 2 questions though. Are you able to keep private browsing as the default? It seems that I have to activate it every session on Safari 3. Also, I love how Firefox stores my logins and passwords. I like to be able to view them and they always seems to stay active. Does the new Safari allow this as well?
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balls187
02/25/09

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Oh god no. Why use this closed source POS when you can use Firefox?
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Gilbert Tang Jr.
02/25/09

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Really enjoying it so far. It would be my default if there weren't a few major pages I use reguarly that require Firefox.
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Monty
02/25/09

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Can someone answer me whether they allow you to allow pop-ups from certain web domains now? That is what made it impossible for me to use Safari is that I visit web sites that load applications via a pop-up and Safari was worthless for those sites.
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not_a_virus.exe.vbs
02/25/09

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I have Opera, Safari, Firefox, Chrome and IE on my laptop, none of them are perfect or reliable to use all the time because some have features and work on websites others don't. Best all around so far is between Chrome and Firefox for me.
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AKAuser
02/25/09

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I Chrome not cool anymore?
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
02/25/09

@AKAuser: No Chrome is not cool. That's why Google is bitching about Microsoft...
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BeautifulAgony
02/25/09

@Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®: Chrome isn't cool, and Safari is worse still. I like the concepts behind Chrome, but it's so bug-riddled and prone to rendering errors that it's not worth using.

Safari is just so painfully slow. Once again Apple has added glitz and glam to the detriment of performance and function.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
02/25/09

@BeautifulAgony: I'm actually using Chrome now and it's been working ok for the most part. Occasionally I'll get some random lockups to the point where I have to kill and relaunch it. So far it hasn't been enough of an annoyance for me to stop using it all together...

I also bounce between IE, Opera and Safari throughout the day.
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BeautifulAgony
02/25/09

@Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®: It's not terrible, and in many ways it beats IE, simply by speed alone, and sandboxing. But it's got these little bugs tha tmake it annoying tome, like losing radio buttons and checkboxes. I'm tired of having to go to my Start Bar, click properties, click "Ok" and then go back to my browser and switch tabs until they return.

Also, it has tendencies to get wierd with persistent login information, and pages that use lots of Java and Flash. Given its relative youth, it's rather good, but I certainly wouldn't consider it ready for public release. I'd be embarassed to call this a finished product, I would be hesitant to call it a stable beta.
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Inepsa
02/26/09

@AKAuser: I am an avid chrome user. I know that every browser has a Google side bar, but I like that chromes address bar is a Google bar as well.

I really like the new Safari though. It looks great, and I have had no problems running it at all.
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BeautifulAgony
02/26/09

@Inepsa: The sad, and inept thing, about Google Chrome, is that it actually has less funcionality than the Google Toolbar for IE!

How could Google have gimped its own browser!? It doesn't support auto-fill, editing bookmarks is a nightmare, you can't alter the layout or contents of your "home" page, and the "toolbar" is non-customizable in the most infuriating ways. At a time when virtually every aspect of software is becoming customized, Chrome is unforgivably and almost unusably retro in that regard.

Add to that that it has virtually no 3rd party support and it rapidly begins to look like a big failure for Google. It's not surprising they are taking potshots at MS, given that they evidently have no intent or capability of making a better browser. :(
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John Hardin
02/25/09

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Painfully slow to load pages. The new features are a bit uneccessary.
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sos10
02/25/09

@John Hardin: Are you kidding? Pages load extremely fast. 1..2...Boom! There are some hick-ups, it is a beta after all.
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Obey__
02/25/09

@John Hardin: Here's me wondering if you're using windows or OS X. I'm thinking, and this is me a guy with no tech knowledge taking a shot in the dark, that maybe Safari 4 is optimized to run better on a mac, as opposed to windows.

But thats just me... I love it, its a great improvement over Safari 3.

Just when i zoom in, it zooms in fully and zooming out is just as bad. Thats the only problem i've encounterd.
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Homerjay is utterly alone.
02/25/09

@Obey__: Yeah, thats my major complaint too. The zooming is horribly fast.
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heimbachae
02/26/09

@Closed captioning provided by Homerjay: my 'major complaint' and ultimately the reason why i reverted back to 3 was the tabs. WHY did they put the tabs at the top!!!??? the browser is just a bunch of fluff to me. i think i'm going to switch over ONLY if they move the tabs back down to the bottom and fix a few other little tiny gripes.

but as for it not being fast, WTF!!?? 4 is STUPID fast, like it slapped me AND my mom is the face before things loaded and i was like "WTF just happened? oh shit my page is loaded!!??"
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Homerjay is utterly alone.
02/26/09

@heimbachae: Yeah, I'm not big on the tabs at the top either but I figured thats something I can get used to easy enough. Its worth it for the speed.
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