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Odin
09/22/09

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Wow, and it's not like SATA was ever even big.
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MarcusMaximus
09/21/09

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Alright, I posed this question on the engadget story as well, but you gizmodoians are generally a bit more.. intelligent. Anyone know if there's an adapter that can go from one of those mini PCIE SATA SSD's for Eee PC's to a normal PCIE x1 or normal desktop SATA? (long story, but basically My fiancee's brother ordered the wrong part and we didn't notice the word "mini")
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danger the pirate
09/21/09

@MarcusMaximus: $95 oops.
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MarcusMaximus
09/21/09

@danger the pirate: Ya, someone there found the same one(or pretty close at least). Major pain. I'll probably just sell it on ebay.
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(Starman) Starman
09/21/09

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Every Firewire fanboy's dream: mFireWire3200. :(
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Bertone77
09/21/09

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IDE? THIS IS mSATAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
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trrosen
09/21/09

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should have been SATA Nano or SATAn for short.
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I3ob the Lizard
09/21/09

@trrosen: Reminds me of the Seattle S.L.U.T.
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Identity (Metric)
09/21/09

@I3ob the Lizard: Robin Williams Likes the S.L.U.T.!
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ripfire
09/21/09

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Mmmmmm mSATA!
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Norbs
09/21/09

In reply to Seagate Barracuda XT "World's Fastest Hard Drive" 2x Faster Than Yours With 6Gbps Transfer Speeds
Not misleading at all!! I mean just because the sata bus can handle 6Gbps means that the drive is going to push data through that bus at the same rate right?!

Yeah I didn't think so either.

BTW My car has Y rated tires so it can go 186mph (at least using this logic).
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lpranal
09/21/09

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Since Seagate has taken it upon themselves to take a page from shimano with their naming scheme, I'm going to call the next, even higher-end drive: the barracuda XTR. Using carbon fibre and enhanced marketing techniques, this results in a 6% increase in performance, and 110% increase in price.
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Phong
09/21/09

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All this does is complicate the question of When should I update? Now I must debate whether I should wait for the new hex core Intels and USB 3.0 as well as sata 3. All these updates are great but which update would give me the biggest bang for my buck. I know its impossible to wait forever, but I dont want to pay the early adopter tax as well.

Most likely I will wait for Apple to stop playing grab ass with the touch's camera, and get a touch. The iphone, while amazing, simply has too low a ROI for my monthly cost.
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OCEntertainment
09/21/09

@Mess Yo Self!: If you find yourself wondering whether or not to wait, here's the rules: For starters, wait long enough to save up all the money you need. Pay cash for everything. Mainly, this helps make sure you're not buying parts in different release cycles. Buy a motherboard today, graphics card a couple months later, piece by piece, eventually you're gonna find some incompatibility. Also, spend that time while you're saving looking around and comparing parts. (Feel free to ignore that if you're buying a pre-built unit.)

When you have your money together, and you've shopped around for what's out....buy it. Then don't look at any ads or recently released devices for six months.

You will always be one step behind. Waiting will always get you more for your dollar. Buy anyways.
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Dafrety
06/22/09

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I wonder if they would have actually pushed this out if no one cared about it.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
06/22/09

@Dafrety: True Apple Fanboys wait until Rev C hardware release.
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Harry A. Carter III
06/22/09

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Why do I feel like i should wait to the very last minute when it comes to buying anything apple?
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Nick
06/22/09

@Harry A. Carter III: cause you're a rotten egg?
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Monty
06/22/09

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What do you suppose SATA stands for on Infinite Loop? Stupid Apple Tricks Arrive? Serendipitous Apple Theatrics Appreciated? I really have nothing, but surely someone out there can create an amusing one for us.
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frigg
06/15/09

In reply to Did Apple Downgrade the Hard Drive Controller in the New MacBook Pros?
So as long as you don't swap out your hard drive with a new, faster, SSD, which I'm not going to do, I wont notice any performance difference at all?

So basically, I'm supposed to be mad about this as a matter of principal, right?
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Kaiser-Machead
06/15/09

@frigg: Yes. There's going to be a 5am pitchfork sharpening and torch lighting in the front of FAO Schwartz on July 4. Siege of the fifth avenue Apple store starts at 7 so don't be late.
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jblock
06/15/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Wouldn't the torches be more visually effective after the sun has set?
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Kaiser-Machead
06/15/09

@jblock: Fire hurts regardless of the time of day.
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Pope John Peeps II
06/15/09

@frigg: Well, it's good business to focus on your customer base. And their base are people who simply buy a thing and use that thing, and rarely upgrade. So they don't really need to concern themselves with the high end of customization.

Which is generally why people still buy PCs - because they want to put clicky things in shiny slots and sparkle them up with electricity.

FUNNNNN!
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frigg
06/15/09

@Kaiser-Machead:

... and this time we shall march up and down the great glass staircase at HALF THE SPEED we marched before when the scoundrels removed our beloved firewire from the 13" macbook, and we will not stop until every last mac can once again shuttle data at 3X the 100 Megabyte per second speed limit of firewire 800.

Headroom, people, it's all about headroom!

I've already contacted Lauren's agent, and she's signed on to give the keynote at 5am. Starbucks has agreed to donate coffee. Boskevv has agreed to handle the email blasts. Does anyone twitter? Our voices must be heard!
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Eruanno
06/15/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Ah, I'm on. What's the dresscode?

Casual? Hillbilly? Snob?
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Kaiser-Machead
06/15/09

@Eruanno: To keep things interesting, we keep it at the attendee's discretion. I find that angry mobs are just a wee bit scarier when the general attire has a wider range of styles.
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Kaiser-Machead
06/15/09

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Herman's right, and most users wouldn't really notice the difference, and since in most situations 3.0 gigabit interfaces would not really bring a noticeable benefit, I'm sorry I can't say this with a straight face.
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tok3ninja
06/15/09

@Kaiser-Machead: The only real benefit is it can handle larger file size transfers. Unless you're planning on backing up all your not-porn it really doesn't matter. Still kind of funny Apple would do this you have to admit.
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Kaiser-Machead
06/15/09

@tok3ninja; fell off the boat: Initial Time Machine backups take painfully long as it is, but I wonder how much more this would affect it.
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tok3ninja
06/15/09

@Kaiser-Machead: If my math is correct, about double the time.
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frigg
06/15/09

@tok3ninja; fell off the boat: The only way it would effect a Time Machine backup is if you were backing up to something at faster speeds than firewire 800.

The new 1.5 Gigabit SATA controller allows data transfer at 150 megabytes per second.

Firewire 800 sends a max of 100 megabytes per second (firewire 400 maxes out at 50).

Neither will be slowed down by a limit of 150 Megabytes per second.
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Tom Reed
06/15/09

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Grr... I was all ready to buy a new mbp for college too. Its disturbing that apple has gotten to the point that they are sacrificing the quality of their hardware to attract more customers. Also does anybody have the read/write times on the previous generation MacBooks? This is just making it harder and harder to bring myself to buy a new MBP, as I am afraid this and the graphics chip issue will be remedied by christmas.
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frigg
06/15/09

@Tom Reed:

This doesn't effect read/write speeds of any hard drive that comes with the mac. It only effects speeds that exceed firewire 800 speeds by over 1.5X.

Unless you're planning on swapping out your hard drive for an SSD (which as a college student, highly doubtful), or plug it into a high speed RAID, the new slower speed hard drive controller still provides more speed than you'll probably ever use.

Yeah, it sucks that a spec gets downgraded. But the reality is the new downgraded speed is still faster than anything you'd likely throw at it.
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Tom Reed
06/15/09

@frigg: So if I were to install a faster 7200 rpm 3.0 gb/s hard drive it wouldn't max out the 1.5 gb/s controller? If so thats good news! Thanks!
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frigg
06/15/09

@Tom Reed: That's right - it won't max out the controller.

The fastest 7200 rpm hard drive doesn't transfer data anywhere near 3.0 gb/s. The fastest any hard drive can transfer data is 127 MB/s. That's still under the speed limit of the new downgraded spec, and whatever drive you put in your laptop won't be as fast as 127 MB/s anyway.

I do audio so I need 7200 rpm drives as well, and the 1.5 gb/s controller doesn't bother me at all. It will still be faster than whatever data my hard drive is capable of moving around.
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