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    Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
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    Image of nutbastard nutbastard
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    Forgetting the cost to recharge, it would take 100,000 miles to break even on gas (at an assumed 30mpg and $3/gallon)


    Assuming you're getting rid of a $3,500 car, you'd only need to drive around 65,000 miles to break even (again, ignoring charge costs)


    i think you can safely negate the cost to charge by noting that it will need no oil changes, it will never overheat, and with hundreds fewer moving parts, repairs will be extremely rare, and likely cheaper (electronics are less fickle and generally cheaper than their mechanical equivalents)


    reliability is my #1 criteria in selecting a car (thus i drive an older civic) so as long as this theoretical sub $10,000 car handles as well as the civic round corners, i have to say, yeah, i'd totally buy one.

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    Image of NerzzleintheVerzzle NerzzleintheVerzzle
    06/15/09

    @nutbastard: "Handles as well as a Civic"???
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    06/15/09

    @nutbastard:


    oh but only if it has 14" wheels. i hate newer cars, all with 15-20" wheels standard - tire prices go up exponentially it seems with every size bump. I used to be able to put a fresh set of 13" tires on my old corolla for $130 out the door.


    14" tires on the civic cost around $300-$400. WTF.

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    06/15/09

    @NerzzleintheVerzzle:


    yeah. 'handles as well as a 1994 civic ex coupe'


    as in no problem cornering at 80, 90mph


    i haven't driven the newer civics but i imagine they are heavier and thus not as much fun - im assuming that's why you seem so incredulous?

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    Image of .357 .357
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    Only if it was fast.
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    Image of DennyCrane DennyCrane
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    No, a sub-$10,000, zero-emissions car that you never have to pay fuel costs for will be the most desirable consumer electronics device in history. Right now you still have to pay fuel costs, whether its electric or gas. Create a fuel cell that can generate enough power to run for the expected life of the vehicle (say, seven years) and then you can talk shit.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    06/15/09

    @DennyCrane: You still need to pay to power it. It will never cost $00.00 to charge it.
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    Image of s0crates82 s0crates82
    06/15/09

    @DennyCrane: Nuclear fuel would be awesome.
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    Image of Sean Masters Sean Masters
    06/15/09

    @BennyMigrationWitness_GitEmSte...: never say never.
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    06/15/09

    @Sean Masters: OK, until the UFP comes into existence, it will never cost $00.00 to charge it.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    06/15/09

    @s0crates82: Mr. Fusion.
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    Image of Daniel Parmelee Daniel Parmelee
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    They have this already. It's called a bicycle. Bonus: you lose weight while operating it!
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    06/15/09

    @Daniel Parmelee: And get soaking wet while driving in the rain.
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    Sub $10K all electric car makes a ton of sense. It's a perfect price point to allow just about everyone into a car. Makes the car almost disposable and negates the whole "the batteries will cost a fortune to replace 5-10 years down the road." However a full electric is still tough sell. I rent and don't have a place to plug it in.


    Make it a hybrid for 10K and you've got yourself a game changer.

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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    06/15/09

    @FriarNurgle: Yeah, I mean, electrical outlets outside every home can only lead to less problems! The homeless will enjoy not having to plug their space heater into a light pole. And think of all the fun kids will have running down the block at night unplugging cars, and having to wait for AA(as in battery) to come over and give you a "quick charge" to get you to work.
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    Sorry, I'm too much of a snob to own a vehicle that cheap. Give me the same exact car, only it has emissions, leather seats made from baby cows, and seal-fur lining the interior for triple the price and maybe I'll buy it.
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    06/15/09

    @Carradine Dies of a Stroke Film at 11: Lite: Lightweight. I got mine with whale skin hubcaps and baby seal eyes for headlights. It's hot pink.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    06/15/09

    @Carradine Dies of a Stroke Film at 11: Lite: With whale skin hubcaps and all leather cow interior and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights?
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    06/15/09

    @BennyMigrationWitness_GitEmSte...: Yes, with John Wayne in the back seat, frozen.
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    Image of TrollSlayer TrollSlayer
    06/15/09

    @OMG! Con Seannery!: @BennyMigrationWitness_GitEmSte...: You guys are assholes. :)
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    06/15/09

    @TrollSlayer: Why don't you just shut up and sing the song, pal.
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    06/15/09

    @Carradine Dies of a Stroke Film at 11: Lite: He's gonna be pretty pissed off.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    06/15/09

    @Carradine Dies of a Stroke Film at 11: Lite: mine would purr like 10,000 dead kittens. their fur, of course, would be the filler in my seats.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    OMG, it's NPH's car. I wonder how much he was tripping in it?
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    Image of f0rge f0rge
    06/15/09

    In reply to Would a Sub $10,000 Zero-Emissions Car Be The Greatest Consumer Gadget Ever?
    Disagree, I like my cars to be fun, so I own an M3.


    Gas mileage be damned.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    06/15/09

    @f0rge: Actually, you didn't answer the question.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    06/15/09

    @f0rge: You missed the point. Imagine if your M3 cost less than $10,000 and caused no pollution. People buy expensive sports cars in spite of gas guzzling and high costs.
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