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    Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
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    Image of aniteshj aniteshj
    11/14/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    Wait wait, I thought the whole point of a stealth fighter, was you know, to keep it as hush hush to the public as possible?

    And the F22 is American, which sucks but is good knowing only the Americans carry the bad boy, and while the F35 is cheaper the F22 is a strike fighter and would have a field day with a F35.

    Unless Tom Cruise is in the F35. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Daniel Yakobian Daniel Yakobian
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    What i dont understand is why Japan just purchase F35s. The F35 is being sold to multiple countries already and is stealth capable. It is also extremley cheaper then an F22. America isnt gonna give up their air superiority and even if it did I dont know how Japan would afford these fighters in the first place. We dont even build them anymore becauze there so god damn expensive. An F35 is a great alternative. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    11/13/09

    @Daniel Yakobian: The article is a little bit old.

    [www.f-16.net]

    [www.defenseindustrydaily.com]
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    Image of EdgarJPublius EdgarJPublius
    11/14/09

    @Daniel Yakobian: F-35 is a strike Fighter, Japan doesn't need strike fighter, because they don't plan on blowing anyone up anytime soon.

    The don't really need F-22's for that matter, but as an air-superiority fighter, the F-22 has a much higher utility to the ASDF #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of badhatharry badhatharry
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    Being from Japan, will it do anything to make boobs bigger? #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of KRingg KRingg
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    One thing that's always amazed me is the general American disdain for advanced military aircraft, while more than a few other countries are heavily lobbying for the right to purchase their own versions of our technology. Yes it's expensive, and yes it many times goes over budget, but ultimately, it's quite important. These aircraft have 10 - 20 year development cycles... they can't just be built on command when we suddenly need them. Furthermore, they are often used a political bargaining tools with our allies.

    It's cool that Japan is building their own stealth aircraft, but I'm convinced it'd be better for everyone if our congress would just let Lockheed Martin build an exportable F22. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of FightingChance FightingChance
    11/13/09

    @KRingg: It's easy to see both sides of the argument concerning 5th generation fighters. The opposition feels that the massive price tag is not worth it when the future of foreign conflict is insurgent scuttling and street-to-street battle; situations that the F-22 is ineffective at dealing. It is a gamble; I'd rather not be left hanging with too few F-22's if we get into WWIII with China and Russia, but if that doesn't happen, we can use that money very effectively elsewhere. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Shamoononon: I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/13/09

    @KRingg: With all the budget cuts towards programs like that, at least it would bring in some income. Not sure I want Japan running around with our technology though. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Shamoononon: I shave my legs. Shamoononon: I shave my legs.
    11/13/09

    @FightingChance: I hate to tell you where that funding went. It wasn't the Military.
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    Image of FightingChance FightingChance
    11/13/09

    @Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: True, I will never accuse the government (or any government, anywhere) of logically re-distributing funds very well.

    The infamous B-2 Spirit buying spree comes to mind. I am a huge tech and military hardware junkie but I really want to see the military-industrial complex come to an end. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    11/13/09

    @FightingChance: I think the F-35 would hold its own quite well when augmented with our force of several hundred F-22s. If we needed more, we could produce them as we held off with what we have on hand. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of James Kinney James Kinney
    11/14/09

    @Con Seannery: Haha! There is no aircraft that can surpass the f22 that has been built to date. The f22 was decades of devolopement, the f35 was an el-cheapo fighter aircraft contest. The reason they made f22's AFTER designing the f35 was because the f22 was so much more capable that much much fewer aircraft would be needed to complete the same task multiple f35's would need.

    that and the specs of an f22 will surpass an f35. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Con Seannery Con Seannery
    11/14/09

    @James Kinney: But the F-35 is MUCH cheaper, even if inferior. You can kill an F-22. It might take you a few aircraft to do it, but it can be done. My point was that the F-35 is perfectly sufficient to hold off an opposing force alongside the F-22s we DO have until we got more F-22s off the line in the event of a major conflict. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of James Kinney James Kinney
    11/15/09

    @Con Seannery: The f35 costs ~80mill to the f22's 140mill... So yes it is far cheaper but as I understand it, the f22 is so much greater of a fighter that far far fewer are needed and it is actually cheaper to fly f22's than f35's. for example maybe only 3 f22's would be needed to do the job of 6 f35's (plus fewer pilots and fewer maintenance costs). This is a guess but I remember hearing that they would put 16 f18's up against 2 or 3 f22's and the f22's would not even break a sweat (obviously f18 doenst equal f35 but economy point is what I am making).

    But all is all I think that a watered down f35 is ok to sell overseas but keep the f22 hear so we can crush the rogue f35's if we ever need to :) #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Hunter2458 Hunter2458
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    And just after the US stopped production of the F-22... #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of FriarNurgle FriarNurgle
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    Good luck, Japan. Good luck. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    I bet everyone here is thinking one of two things:

    1) Some humorous prediction that the Japanese plane will be cheaper, more reliable, and more fuel efficient than American planes. Edit: with 2x as many cup holders.

    2) It will be able to turn into a robot.
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    Image of Thangka Thangka
    11/13/09

    @Hello Mister Walrus: You forgot:

    3) Have a bizarre sex toy built into it. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Michai Michai
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    "Want to end the ground examination early"?
    Who the hell did the translation? lol
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    Image of newgalactic newgalactic
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    Military Might rarely comes from technology advancements. It usually comes from $$$ and logistics.

    It's one thing to create one top-secret "Firefox" jet. It's another thing entirely to build 350 of them, and keep them repaired, fueled, and armed.
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    Edited by newgalactic at 11/13/09 7:27 PM newgalactic was starred newgalactic was unstarred
    Image of Jux Jux
    11/13/09

    @newgalactic: What if you only build 187 of them? #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of newgalactic newgalactic
    11/13/09

    @Jux: Depends, do I still get to keep my 350? #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Jux Jux
    11/14/09

    @newgalactic: Nope, the government says you can only build 187. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Ribs Ribs
    11/13/09

    In reply to Japan Developing Its Own Stealth Fighter Jet
    "Veritech". Yeah, I know, I'm a nerd. #shinshinstealthfighter
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/13/09

    @Ribs: Yeah but when it's spelled "Veritech", it sounds like some kind of authentication software for a website. #shinshinstealthfighter
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