@nutbastard: i got to agree with most of ur concerns, but brakes could easily be implemented on top of the wheels' insides. if you got some heavy gloves you could probably brake by just pushing the wheels against the inside of the wheels - leaning back while doing this might help ;)
the same goes for ollie, you could use your hands if they improve on a spot for hands on top of the wheels' insides. it's more of an ollie cheat tho
and yeah, i definately dont wanna fall off this thing, it looks like it was designed as a foot-trap
problem with brakes - engaging brakes on this thing would cause it to roll forward. balancing the lean-back with the rotation induced wouldn't be cool, just annoying, and unnecessarily dangerous.
as a long time skateboarder, I can find no end to the problems with this thing. One – steering. Traditional skateboards use a pivoting truck to turn, which in well designed trucks will do so at a rate that compliments the need for a surface perpendicular to your centripetal angular momentum. I don’t see how this could employ anything even remotely similar, which means that the board remains flat at all times (bad) or somehow they pulled it off, but you risk running your knees into the hubs.
Secondly, it’s way too high off the ground – the last thing you want at high speed is a high center of gravity.
Thirdly, aren’t hubless wheels plagued by exorbitant cost and sketchy mechanical reliability over time?
Fourthly, a normal skateboard runs somewhere around $150, $200 and up if you go for premium components. This thing looks like it’ll cost at least $400, and without an established hobbyist culture around the device, you’ll be hard pressed to get newcomers to drop $400 on what is essentially a novelty.
Fifthly, you can’t ollie with it, which means getting off every time you get to a curb. WTF. The entire point of being a decent skater is that things like curbs and stairs don’t stop you, or even hardly slow you down. BTW this is one of my major gripes about the segway.
Sixthly, I see no braking system, nor a decent way of implementing one. And you might say, well, ‘neither does a skateboard’ but at least with a skate you can drag the toe of your rear foot, or skid the tail. Also trivial on a skateboard but not on this – jumping off when a crash is inevitable. Imagine careening towards a blackberry bush and trying to jump off, and you get your feet tangled in the hubs, causing you to tumbleweed all over the place. Not cool.
Looks a lot like these: Big Wheel
and Di-Cycle.
The second I hadn't seen before I started searching, but the two linked products look suspiciously similar...
kids are already playing this all over the place in asia. Has it landed in the US yet? You kinda zigzag it by alternating the two feet, looks pretty smooth.
@diehippiedie: I've seen them at The Toy Fair - the big Toy Convention for buyers and sellers here in NYC. But i haven't actually seen any in the wild.
@Itspeat!: Man I tried my niece's Rip-Stick. I was pretty good on a skateboard when I was younger, but I'll be damned if I could stay up on that stupid thing.
I'm sorry, this Loop-In concept just isn't complete. Where are the necessary controls? And how do you stay stabilized on that ridiculous seat/platform/whatever?
There are much better designs out there, such as the example shown above...
07/27/09
the same goes for ollie, you could use your hands if they improve on a spot for hands on top of the wheels' insides. it's more of an ollie cheat tho
and yeah, i definately dont wanna fall off this thing, it looks like it was designed as a foot-trap
07/27/09
problem with brakes - engaging brakes on this thing would cause it to roll forward. balancing the lean-back with the rotation induced wouldn't be cool, just annoying, and unnecessarily dangerous.
07/24/09
Secondly, it’s way too high off the ground – the last thing you want at high speed is a high center of gravity.
Thirdly, aren’t hubless wheels plagued by exorbitant cost and sketchy mechanical reliability over time?
Fourthly, a normal skateboard runs somewhere around $150, $200 and up if you go for premium components. This thing looks like it’ll cost at least $400, and without an established hobbyist culture around the device, you’ll be hard pressed to get newcomers to drop $400 on what is essentially a novelty.
Fifthly, you can’t ollie with it, which means getting off every time you get to a curb. WTF. The entire point of being a decent skater is that things like curbs and stairs don’t stop you, or even hardly slow you down. BTW this is one of my major gripes about the segway.
Sixthly, I see no braking system, nor a decent way of implementing one. And you might say, well, ‘neither does a skateboard’ but at least with a skate you can drag the toe of your rear foot, or skid the tail. Also trivial on a skateboard but not on this – jumping off when a crash is inevitable. Imagine careening towards a blackberry bush and trying to jump off, and you get your feet tangled in the hubs, causing you to tumbleweed all over the place. Not cool.
07/24/09
You know what this reminds me of? That Star Wars drone from Episode 2, the Hailfire.
07/24/09
07/23/09
Looks a lot like these:
Big Wheel
and Di-Cycle.
The second I hadn't seen before I started searching, but the two linked products look suspiciously similar...
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kids are already playing this all over the place in asia. Has it landed in the US yet? You kinda zigzag it by alternating the two feet, looks pretty smooth.
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@cnewhall: i dont think it can be too much more dangerous than those Rip-Stick things with Two wheels that go any direction.
07/23/09
Meanwhile she's flying down hills on it.
07/23/09
I'm sorry, this Loop-In concept just isn't complete. Where are the necessary controls? And how do you stay stabilized on that ridiculous seat/platform/whatever?
There are much better designs out there, such as the example shown above...
07/23/09
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07/24/09
"I think Mr./Mrs. Garrison admitted those controls weren't actually necessary in the end."
pun intended? (in the 'end')
07/23/09