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    Image of jinushaun jinushaun
    10/25/09

    In reply to Licensing Issues at Heart of Apple's Decision to Kill Snow Leopard ZFS Plans
    From what I've heard, Apple dropped ZFS because Sun couldn't guarantee support of it (the "private license" part), now that it has been bought by Oracle. A file system is way too important to leave to another company to decide your fate. Apple wanted to guarantee it was protected if it decided to completely invest in ZFS. #leopard
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    Image of JacquesAss JacquesAss
    10/25/09

    In reply to Licensing Issues at Heart of Apple's Decision to Kill Snow Leopard ZFS Plans
    1. Sun is currently in the middle of litigation with NetApp over ZFS (hence the "indemnification" issues).
    2. Sun is soon to be owned by Oracle, which is in the midst of developing BTRFS - an open source file-system with many of ZFS's strengths and lacking a few of the weaknesses. Some feel BTRFS will be the default LINUX file system before too long.
    3. BTRFS is not yet finished - which means it's not yet ready for a commercial OS, but also leaves room for tweaking and adding before it is "final".
    4. Apple wants a modern file system now, but will _need_ a modern file system soon.
    5. Jobs and Ellison are friends.

    I'm guessing that Apple has abandoned ZFS for BTRFS, saving them a potential lawsuit (if NetApp wins or settles) and allowing them to increase their interoperability with future *nix distros. We'll know for sure if Apple employees start popping up on the BTRFS mailing lists... #leopard
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    Image of PhilomenaAjax PhilomenaAjax
    10/25/09

    In reply to Licensing Issues at Heart of Apple's Decision to Kill Snow Leopard ZFS Plans
    As much as it pains me to defend Apple here, a lack of willingness to share wasn't the issue. From the cited mailing list Apple wanted a license "with appropriate technical support and indemnification". Technical support and indemnification are required for something as important as a filesystem. I have to give credit to Apple's legal counsel or whomever for making that call.
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    Image of robdaemon robdaemon
    10/25/09

    In reply to Licensing Issues at Heart of Apple's Decision to Kill Snow Leopard ZFS Plans
    I take this to mean that Apple simply doesn't want to release parts of any proprietary interfaces between Mac OS X and ZFS back to the community.

    Not very open source friendly, but well within their realm of legal rights.
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    Image of Monty Monty
    10/25/09

    In reply to Licensing Issues at Heart of Apple's Decision to Kill Snow Leopard ZFS Plans
    If true, knowing that ZFS is supposedly an outstanding file system, could we interpret Apple's need for a "private license" as being bad for us consumers, or does this ultimately not matter? I am not certain how I feel about this information, if it is true. #leopard
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    Image of GizMadone GizMadone
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    I'll take one with wind protection, thanks.
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    10/11/09

    @GizMadone: Pffft! It's like you somehow think that snowmobiles will be ridden in places where there's wind and snow! That's crazy talk! Snowmobiles are purely indoor vehicles! Windscreens are totally decorative!
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    Image of Ryanrule Ryanrule
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    How does it steer? Prayer?
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    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    10/11/09

    @Ryanrule: You lean.
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    Image of otko otko
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    Guess where I've been!
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    Image of phunnyballs phunnyballs
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    umm.. am i the only oen that doesnt think this looks like sperm?
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    Image of Wburg Wburg
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    Looks like it's straight out of a game of Halo.
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    That thing looks fast coming and going.
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    Image of Zgradis Zgradis
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    This is just going to get stuck in any semi deep powder, the track isn't long enough and the weigh distribution looks like shit...
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    Image of Lizard_King Lizard_King
    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    What, we are not calling them "snow-machines" anymore?
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    Image of Preyfar Preyfar
    10/11/09

    @Lizard_King: Snow-machines are referred to as the machines that actually make snow on ski-loedges. We've called them snowmobiles ever since I was a kid (for at least 25+ years). Then again, my family comes from Vermont where snowmobiles are common.
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    Image of Lizard_King Lizard_King
    10/11/09

    @Preyfar: I've called them snow mobiles since i was a kid too. However, last year in the news you heard a lot about "snow machine racing", especially when discussing the one running mate's husband. She had corrected a few people who had mistakenly called them "snow mobiles"
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    Image of Alfisted Alfisted
    10/11/09

    @Preyfar: I think it depends upon where you're coming from. Snow machines is pretty common vernacular in AK.
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    Image of PeterQC PeterQC
    10/11/09

    @Alfisted: We've been calling them Skidoos in Canada, at least where I live.
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    Image of Scotland Scotland
    10/11/09

    @PeterQC: Did you know that "Ski-Doo" is a brand of snowmobile?
    In Scotland we call them "skedaddles"
    *sigh*
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    Image of burningsensation burningsensation
    10/11/09

    @Alfisted: That makes sense, as I can't see there being much use for the snow-making variety of "snow machines" in AK
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    Image of Barry99705 Barry99705
    10/11/09

    @burningsensation: Believe it or not they do use snow making machines on some of the ski hills. Though mostly in the interior. Fairbanks is in the middle of an arctic desert. We don't get that much snow. A few feet at the most, and some years half that might sublime away. We call snow mobiles "snow machines" which confused the hell out of me when I moved up here. In Ohio they call them snow mobiles.
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    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold
    Watch out for shrinkage..
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    10/11/09

    In reply to Sperm-Shaped Snowmobile Concept Would No Doubt Finish Fast, Even In the Cold

    Hold RB To Hijack Banshee
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