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    Image of Gundem Gundem
    11/21/09

    In reply to If the Xperia X10 Partners Up, It'll Be With AT&T
    AT&T GOT!
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    Image of dragon:ONE dragon:ONE
    11/21/09

    In reply to If the Xperia X10 Partners Up, It'll Be With AT&T
    Please 2011, AT&T, my FUZE is already wearing out and I'm not due until February 2011.

    @#$%#@ upgrade cycle.
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    Edited by dragon:ONE at 11/21/09 6:48 PM dragon:ONE was starred dragon:ONE was unstarred
    Image of reluttr reluttr
    11/21/09

    @dragon:ONE: I agree, there should have some sort of program that lets you upgrade 1 year before the end of your contract, but you pay slightly more for the phone
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    Gundem promoted this comment Edited by reluttr at 11/21/09 7:40 PM reluttr was starred reluttr was unstarred
    Image of Gundem Gundem
    11/21/09

    @reluttr: There used to be such program. It's gone now.
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    Image of reluttr reluttr
    11/21/09

    @Gundem: really it doesnt make sense as to why they got rid of it... because if they still had that option then they would had sold alot more 3gs's then they did. Because all of the fanboys upgraded to the 3g, but they couldn't upgrade to the 3gs.
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    Image of dragon:ONE dragon:ONE
    11/22/09

    @reluttr: EXACTLY. I wouldn't mind paying a little more for a Tilt2 earlier than having to wait it out until 2011 for any chance of upgrade (they say I can upgrade 'early' to iPhone 3G... on the same date in 2011 as my regular upgrade.)

    Of course, the other route for us WinMo users is to fake out enough hardware/warranty replacements that they just decide "screw it, we'll send you a Tilt2".

    Since from what I've seen, that's what most Sprint users are doing, after all, with their Touch Pros, and coercing Sprint to give them TP2s.
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    dragon:ONE was starred dragon:ONE was unstarred
    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/21/09

    In reply to If the Xperia X10 Partners Up, It'll Be With AT&T
    And God just clipped the wings off of a thousand angels in response.
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    Image of WingedGenius WingedGenius
    11/21/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: You realize that there are more people on AT&T who are willing to get something other than an iPhone than people on T-Mo who get Android phones....

    I, for one, am extremely glad to see that there's a high possibility that the X10 might be AT&T's first Android phone.
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    OCEntertainment promoted this comment Edited by WingedGenius at 11/21/09 7:39 PM WingedGenius was starred WingedGenius was unstarred
    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/21/09

    @WingedGenius: Seconded. While I have been less than thrilled with the set of Android phones T-Mo's gotten (really? the CLIQ is the best we can do?), AT&T's got nothing. And as much as I dislike AT&T, more Android exposure is better for the platform as a whole. Sprint and Verizon both have solid Android phones (Hero, Droid). If AT&T just ended up with a CLIQ or something, well, that's not exactly a great Android flagship.

    Then again, I was personally waiting for something a little more rugged to come to T-Mo to replace my G1. Or just wait til my contract is up and go back to Verizon. ;-)
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    Image of fleebailey33 fleebailey33
    11/21/09

    In reply to If the Xperia X10 Partners Up, It'll Be With AT&T
    not true, the t-mobile 2100 band it slightly different then overseas, i am pretty sure giz is wrong here and it
    will not work.

    edit, if it is the 1700 band i am not sure, i know most of the world uses a 2100 that is not compatible with t-mobiles 3g,
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    Edited by fleebailey33 at 11/21/09 6:12 PM fleebailey33 was starred fleebailey33 was unstarred
    Image of da-vid da-vid
    11/19/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to Cost $880? What The?
    Again and again Gizmodo posts their outrage of unlocked phone prices. This article is extremely ignorant. OBVIOUSLY this phone is going to be subsidized on many different carriers. Just because it might not in the US doesn't mean anything. *ALL* (GSM) phones have a off-contract price comparable to the X10's.

    Firstly, no one buys nice phones off-contract, so this is not even an issue. And as I said, if you do buy a fancy phone off-contract, they're all going to cost this much.

    Want to know how much an iPhone costs unlocked? The 32 GB 3GS costs US$811.

    Don't believe me? Here: [store.apple.com]

    Just type in "6288 HKD in USD" in Google and they'll give you a conversion.
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    ph15h promoted this comment Edited by da-vid at 11/19/09 10:45 AM da-vid was starred da-vid was unstarred
    Image of Mark Pettersson Mark Pettersson
    11/19/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to Cost $880? What The?
    6K is an average retail price in sweden sans contract. But it will be no doutly cheaper in many other countries due to lower taxes, profit margins etc. An apple iphone is 9k is sweden without a contract to give you some idea.
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    met2art promoted this comment Mark Pettersson was starred Mark Pettersson was unstarred
    Image of PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
    11/19/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to Cost $880? What The?
    In all fairness, they do cost quite a bit to make and keep in mind that this is off contract. I'm pretty sure the 3GS costs just about as much off-contract.
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    atrus123 promoted this comment PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: was starred PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: was unstarred
    Image of atrus123 atrus123
    11/19/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Yeah, it's a lot but it's not really that outrageous. After all, it does have some killer internals, even if some folks are skeptical about the design.
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    Image of kingbob337 kingbob337
    11/19/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Yep, I was just about to say that. Just checked, they were about 950 to 1050 without a contract. So 880 for a 1 Ghz phone is surpising only because it is so cheap. I'd except this to be subsidized down to about the 150 range.

    Btw, I doubt the plastic exterior will make the final cut for the device.
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    atrus123 promoted this comment kingbob337 was starred kingbob337 was unstarred
    Image of _Lowkey_ _Lowkey_
    11/19/09

    @PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:: Actually, 6000 Swedish kronor is just slightly cheaper than the off contract price of a 3GS 16GB or a HTC HD2 in Denmark right now.
    I assume that prices are about the same in Sweden, so it's really not that shocking.
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    Image of Serolf Divad Serolf Divad
    11/19/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to Cost $880? What The?
    $880? Wow... that's just $680.00 more than I paid for my Dell Mini 9 netbook... what a steal!
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    Serolf Divad was starred Serolf Divad was unstarred
    Image of atrus123 atrus123
    11/19/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to Cost $880? What The?
    Even despite the so-so videos, I'm still cautiously optimistic about this phone. I think with a little more optimization, it could end up being a killer phone. The only near deal breaker for me right now is the lack of a physical keyboard, but if SE manages to deliver in the end, I may overlook that and get one of these to replace my (much beloved) G1.

    Edit: but of course, that all also depends on whether or not I can get it at a very reduced price on contract through T-Mobile.
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    Edited by atrus123 at 11/19/09 8:30 AM atrus123 was starred atrus123 was unstarred
    Image of ten10 ten10
    11/18/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Hands On: Why Aren't My Pants on Fire?
    why do you need all this if you have an iPod
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    tande04 promoted this comment ten10 was starred ten10 was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @ten10: Phone calls is a nice touch.
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    tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
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    11/19/09

    @tande04: Yea..but just sayin, the whole world's got an iPod (i think..) and probably some kind of phone anyways. Just thought if it is worth shelling out extra for an all-in-one. Which ain't so ideal actually coz if something goes wrong, everything goes wrong.

    But then again wifi IS an issue and it'd be nice to be on 24-7.

    HMMMMM....Ok I guess it's fine to hold onto 2 media devices. MY BAD.
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    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/19/09

    @ten10: No I was just joking.

    I've always kept both for just that reason. I keep a few songs on my phone but not really for dedicated listening, just to have them for here or there. There are people that go with just the phone but I don't think thats the only reasoning behind this phone. Its got more going then just the media.
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    Image of benjijk001 benjijk001
    11/18/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Hands On: Why Aren't My Pants on Fire?
    If SE has brains, (which unfortunately they lack) they can't price the phone high, it should be around $500-$600 mark. If they don't, then they're going to miss out on sales. I've steered clear of SE's phones already a long back since I got burnt with UIQ3 and the rest of their proprietary nonsense. It'll take a whole lot of research and convincing for me to ever go back. Moreover, this phone has very little internal memory. Where's all those 8mp images and videos going to go? C'mon, if you can't put a hard drive in there by now, then you're R&D is sleeping on the job.
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    tande04 approved this comment benjijk001 was starred benjijk001 was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @benjijk001: I agree but I think your price tag is too high.

    I still think Sony needs a subsidized phone on a carrier in the US more then they thought.

    There have been a number of SE phones that I find very appealing. I'm just not going to plunk down half a grand on one to get an unlocked version. Yes, its a great way to go if you can but the reality of the US market is not only that most people can't, they don't. Part of it could just be consumer confusion. Part of it is just the way the system works here. You need a new phone you go to a (carrier specific) phone store. Its starting to change a bit more and the fact that Best Buy got in on the multiple carriers and recently the unlocked is nice but its still not there.
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    Image of Justin Ballen Justin Ballen
    11/19/09

    @tande04: Price tag is too high? Are you serious? Did you even bother reading the specifications?

    It has an 8 megapixel camera.. Built in. My blackberry 8900 has a 3.2 and takes amazing pictures, so having an 8 mp camera built into a phone is worth 1-150 alone.

    And the processor? 1ghz on a PHONE?

    Again, my 8900 has a 512mhz, so this phone has double the clock speed.

    And what about the display resolution?

    The 8900 displays 480x360px, The x10 displays 800x480

    The 8900 costs 4-500 dollars.

    So, I think 5-600 is more than fair.
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    tande04 promoted this comment Justin Ballen was starred Justin Ballen was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/19/09

    @Justin Ballen: And I think its too high. I wouldn't pay that for any phone. It could stroke me off at night and I'm not going to pay $600 for it.

    I'm not alone.
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    Image of Bokusatsu_Tenshi Bokusatsu_Tenshi
    11/18/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Hands On: Why Aren't My Pants on Fire?
    Kinda running off-topic here, but you know, experience tells me "meh-ness" isn't always a bad thing.

    When I look back at all the gadgets I used, surprizingly it's the ones I was more "meh" about that ended up being used the most...
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    Image of Gundem Gundem
    11/18/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Hands On: Why Aren't My Pants on Fire?
    AT&T GET!

    *crossingfingers*
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    Image of bnetter12 bnetter12
    11/18/09

    @Gundem: most likely
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    tande04 promoted this comment bnetter12 was starred bnetter12 was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @bnetter12: my money is on tmobile.
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    Image of otko's pic is back otko's pic is back
    11/18/09

    @tande04: It will support both 3G bands so either way an unlockable GSM model would be win/somewhat win for anyone rocking a sim card.
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    tande04 promoted this comment otko's pic is back was starred otko's pic is back was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @otko: Like the other conversation we were having though I don't know if its an end all win for Sony though. Sony needs a US flagship carrier phone. They've shown time and time again they're getting closer with the hardware and the software, they just need the name recognition now. I'd be amazed if many people even know that sony makes cell phones in the US.

    I imagine they'll do something like Nokia is doing with the n900. Offer up an unlocked one for the people that really want to go that way but really put a push out for a carrier subsidized phone.
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    11/18/09

    @tande04: That would be ideal. I could see that being a very smart move for SE. Nobody ever says "Hey, how about that new Sony Ericsson phone". I would be very happy to make this my next phone if it were to land on T-Mobile. I've always liked the Xperia line-especially being that HTC really built them. I don't like how chunky it is but you can throw that in the list of non-deal breakers if it's picked up and subsidized. That big screen, the Nexus on top of Android-it would be a sweet fight for mothers love between the Droid and the X10.
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    Image of Matt Matt
    11/18/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Hands On: Why Aren't My Pants on Fire?
    This review reminded me of a Top Gear review of an American car for some reason.
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    MrBlahBlah promoted this comment Matt was starred Matt was unstarred
    Image of otko's pic is back otko's pic is back
    11/18/09

    In reply to Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 Hands On: Why Aren't My Pants on Fire?
    I really like it, but it'll never make it here. No carrier will pick it up, which means it will be super expensive. It's bulky and most people want a little bit of space in their pocket along with their phone, and now that Android has been launched in some way on 3 of the 4 carriers, there won't be that much of a demand for this outside of the people that know about it, which is the tech community in general.
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    tande04 promoted this comment otko's pic is back was starred otko's pic is back was unstarred
    Image of tande04 tande04
    11/18/09

    @otko: i'd generally agree with your point but the fact that they specifically mention they want it on a carrier gives me hope that someday I'll beable to touch and afford one.
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    tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
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    11/18/09

    @tande04: I'm basing most of my opinion off of what the Xperia's have meant to people here-not picked up and not mentioned much after release. However, those were WinMo so this could be their ticket off that awful island.
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    11/18/09

    @otko: Even their not WinMo phones are pretty hard to come by state side on a carrier. I had high hopes for the Idou but even at the time I was pretty sure I'd never see one.

    Turns out I was right, I'm hoping this one doesn't turn out the same.

    I think its more of a SE thing than a carrier thing. Even the original Xperia was a pretty lusted over phone (though it was flawed). I'm sure any carrier would have loved to have it. I don't know how aggressively they ever shopped around the other 'X' phones or the Idou but I get the impression they didn't. It the same with how Nokia has largely viewed the US market. Its take it or leave it not lets reach an agreement. I think both have now realized they have a lot to gain by playing the carrier game a little better.
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    Edited by tande04 at 11/18/09 9:24 PM tande04 was starred tande04 was unstarred
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