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    Image of yantelope yantelope
    12/02/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    The simple quick reason why they didn't put them both together is because people don't want to spend $20 on DVDs anymore and Blu-ray was supposed to allow studios to sell movies for $20-30 again. If they make it a combo movie to dupe would-be DVD buyers they would either need to keep the price in line with Blu-ray or customers will probably be mad that they can't just buy a DVD without the Blu-ray side. The whole point of selling a movie on Blu-ray (to the studio) is the added profit over DVD.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    Because they are greedy and would rather exploit their customers than to make then happy.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to iPod Dock 8-Way Battlemodo
    I'm somewhat into audio (was going to go to school as an audio engineer back in the day... don't know what happened to that, but alas, I am where I am) and randomly decided to plug my ipod into all of the docks at Best Buy.

    I hadn't read this article, but found, regardless of price, the JBL was by far the best sounding.
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    I'd rather not, since that means that people wonder which side the DVD version is on, as I doubt it will be standardized (is the label correspond to the side you're reading or the side that should be facing up?)

    Instead, they need to have Blu-ray/DVD content on the same side at different layers. That's more worthwhile.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    I'm happy they are finally doing this and all, but it seems obvious that doing it right away would have made less impetus for people to buy Bluray players at the outset. It makes sense to me for them to wait like they did, allowing three years of people buying overly expensive players. Now that the price is coming down, it makes less sense.

    Anyway, I myself am waiting until GOOD Bluray players get into the $80-100 range before buying one, but I might go ahead and in the near future pick up some must-haves in this format if I see a deal. I ALMOST bought the new Star Trek on Bluray when I was in Best Buy on Black Friday just so that I would have it when I finally broke down (my wife) and got a player.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    Why? Because Sony wanted to corner the entire market, and doing dual-format releases means sharing the royalties with the DVD format. They thought that Blu-Ray + PS3 = guaranteed win across the board, and they're very stubborn about admitting when they're wrong. Remember, this is the company that held off so long on giving up the Walkman that Apple had already _won_ the digital music player market before they even got started. And this is the same company that was so convinced that flatpanel TVs would never take off that by the time they changed their mind they needed to ask rival company Samsung to help them get their own flatpanel TV line off the ground.
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    Image of mistergalarza mistergalarza
    12/01/09

    @Purple Dave: Sony? You mean only one of the many companies in the BDA has this type of control over all others? No.
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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    12/01/09

    @mistergalarza:
    They are one of the nine founding companies and they are clearly the public face of the BDA, in part due to how closely Blu-Ray and the PS3 have been associated with each other, and in part due to the fact that Sony is the only member of the BDA that has made any attempt to publicly associate themselves with the format. If they're not in charge, I'd still suspect that they are treated as a king among equals. After all, even with how poorly the PS3 has performed, it was probably one of the most significant driving forces behind Blu-Ray's "defeat" of HD-DVD, what with how all PS3 consoles were bundled in with standalone Blu-Ray players when citing how many more people had adopted the format over HD-DVD.
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    Image of Voyou_Charmant Voyou_Charmant
    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    Gizmodo was against it before it was for it.
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    12/01/09

    @Voyou_Charmant: OpEd is gonna differ per Ed.
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    12/01/09

    @Voyou_Charmant: It's just like the new Blu-Ray.

    Gizmodo is dual sided!
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    Image of Nick Nick
    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    now what would truly be amazing here is a player with dual lasers. then you could put the video on one side and encode the audio on the other.

    Dear Patent Office:
    see comment above.

    - Nick
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    Image of winshape winshape
    12/01/09

    @Nick: That is similar to my idea of a multi-LASER player. You add the DVD LASER, BR LASER, and HD LASER about 60 degrees apart. Whichever disc is inserted, the corresponding LASER is activated.

    Boom. A true multi-media player.
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    12/01/09

    @winshape: well, you don't need three lasers. if anything -- two.
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    Image of cbstryker cbstryker
    12/01/09

    @Nick: That would be completely pointless.

    For one, to any hardware today, data is data, there is no "video" or "audio", just data. The data rate of current lasers (players) is well above that of both audio and video streams on any blu-ray disc today.

    Additionally, separating the audio and video streams like that would only lead to further complicate the technical issue of keeping them in sync.
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    12/01/09

    @cbstryker: oh, stryker. do you know how many gadgets and gizmos are around today that at some point were "completely pointless?" the double AA battery, for example. Jesus and the Apostles had no use for it, but now it's essential to everyday life. c'mon man. bring your A game.
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    12/02/09

    @Nick: So you're saying more lasers is a bad thing? Blasphemy!!!
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    Image of jayhawk11 is not a fan of smallpox. jayhawk11 is not a fan of smallpox.
    12/01/09

    In reply to Dual-Sided Blu-ray/DVD Discs: What the Hell Took So Long?
    I keep praying that one day soon we can stream in quality approaching that of Blu-ray. Something tells me we're still years away from that, though.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/01/09

    @jayhawk11 is not a fan of smallpox.: Assuming no other bottlenecks (like server speeds), DVD quality video transfers at a rate of roughly 8-10 Mbps. Blu-ray video tops off at around 40. While technically, yes, the capability exists in some places in America (and I'm ignorantly assuming you're in America) to get a real-life 40Mbps downstream connection, it's far from the norm, even among the readership here, much less the average consumer.

    Add to that the average consumer not caring as much about every pixel as we techies do, and the even lower standards folks have for streaming video, then yeah. The motivation, the resources, and the tech needed for Netflix to start streaming Blu-rays to your living room is still a few years off at least.
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    Image of uchendunwachukwu uchendunwachukwu
    12/01/09

    @jayhawk11 is not a fan of smallpox.: Vudu HDX comes close enough to Blu-ray that the vast majority of consumers will not be able to tell them apart in normal viewing conditions. Zune Video 1080p streaming on Xbox Live is also competitive with Blu-ray.
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    12/01/09

    @uchendunwachukwu: I know about Vudu. I'm more concerned about lossless audio. I'm an audio nerd, so that's a bigger deal to me. As far as video quality, yeah Zune Marketplace and Netflix HD is pretty solid.

    Still, at this point OCEntertainment is hitting the nail on the head. Nothing is going to beat Blu-ray's quality because we simply can't sustain it, both on the server backends and the average consumer's connection speed.
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    Image of uchendunwachukwu uchendunwachukwu
    12/01/09

    @jayhawk11 is not a fan of smallpox.: The trouble with lossless audio is very few people have the equipment and acoustics, much less the ears to appreciate it.
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    Image of Monty Monty
    12/01/09

    In reply to Sony Selling World's Tiniest USB Finger Vein Reader
    How much more accurate is this vein scanner from a standard fingerprint scanner, such as what Lenovo puts on their Thinkpad devices? The latter we have found to be problematic and relatively easy to crack, but if this is a major improvement - that would be a fantastic step forward. Ideally, it would be nice to have something like this plugged into all of our desktops in the office and staff could authenticate with nothing more than giving us the finger. Insulting, sure - but much more entertaining than remembering a 14 character password.
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    Image of Hank Scorpio Hank Scorpio
    12/01/09

    In reply to Sony Selling World's Tiniest USB Finger Vein Reader
    "zebra pants and slap bracelets" - awesome. (So glad I didn't dress like that back then!)
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Sony Says Up to Half Its HDTVs Will be 3D in 2012
    I know HDTV's are flat and all, but they are all three dimensional, aren't they?

    I still think this concept of everyone wanting to sit around watching TV with special glasses is ridiculous. I experienced a number of the 3D movies this summer in both formats and (for me) all of them were a more enjoyable experience without the glasses. I am not saying the extra dimension did not add an extra element, but they are uncomfortable to wear for an entire movie. The troublesome short versions of me ended up watching half the movie without the glasses because they were annoying for a couple of the movies. All of which is to say - I just have a tough time imagining an entire family sitting in front of a TV every night with 3D glasses on.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Sony Says Up to Half Its HDTVs Will be 3D in 2012
    I really, Really, REALLY, don't want a 3D HDTV...REALLY.
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    Image of macpatrik macpatrik
    11/30/09

    @SewerShark: That makes two of us.

    This is a dumb gimmick. Until someone does it correctly, and I have yet to see a company even come close, I won't be adopting this technology.

    My eyes are fucked up enough.
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    11/30/09

    @macpatrik: Ive seen a non-glasses 3D TV on a cellphone store...worse experience ever.
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    Image of TFXR TFXR
    11/30/09

    @SewerShark: LOOK BEHIND YOU, A THREE HEADED MONKEY!!!: Agreed. 3D is worthless to me. TV manufacturers are now loading up their TVs with pointless gadgets since they've already hit a price/size equilibrium.
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    11/30/09

    @TFXR: I think you're right. And it pisses me off. I would rather have manufactures invest in making quality TV''s with better picture quality and better lifespans than investing money in dumb gimmicks.

    I'll tell a better quality, longer lasting TV over a 3D one any day.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Sony Says Up to Half Its HDTVs Will be 3D in 2012
    Until 3-D looks amazing without glasses, I personally don't see this going anywhere.
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    11/30/09

    In reply to Sony Says Up to Half Its HDTVs Will be 3D in 2012
    In other news, analysts recently released a report estimating that up to half of all people who will buy Sony HDTVs in 2012 will overpay for their TVs and gain little value.
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