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I want to know what makes low air pressure and cold temps break apart balsa wood... I was trying to imagine moisture content in the wood, but couldn't see enough to do that since balsa's pretty hollow/porous fibre... any ideas anyone? #toshibaspacechair
@brianmi40: The balloon popped, and the chair was destroyed by the aerodynamic stresses of freefall, since it was designed to be lightweight, not sturdy. #toshibaspacechair
@Kakkoii: I'm using Firefox, and Flash is updated. It was specifically something either with the video or the ad that was showing. WHatever it was, when I closed this page, utilization dropped back to nothing. #toshibaspacechair
...... so wait they spent nearly 4 grand for a chair made out of "biodegradable" balsa wood.....
Last time i checked all wood was biodegradable and balsa wood cost like 4 bucks a sheet. And i think full sized model chair means they just made it so light you couldnt actually sit on it.
@WWSJD: Thanks for the expert opinion, armchair carpenter!
You're right, I bet that Toshiba forgot to consult the internet, and just wasted thousands of dollars on a prop for an advertisement.
As experts like you and I know, there's nothing special to consider at all when shooting video, especially when you do it unmanned from a balloon at 50,000 feet.
@Joe Stoner: Theres about as much rocket science to this as loading your car for vacation. And yes i was trained in aeronautical engineering.
My point is they over hyped the dinky chair. Its just a gussied up piece of light wood. They act like its special, its a lightweight prop well painted and made of wood so they needn't bother retrieving it. The people who made it is a props company.
The balloon technology has been around for decades, you hang a rig from it and send it up. It makes all your object length stationary so the optics are quite simple especially with a modern camera. Im also an amateur photographer/holographer so im quite aware of that branch of physics as well.
Not every pithy comment on the internet is filed as serious commentary by a fool. #toshibaspacechair
@WWSJD: I'd guess the biodegradable part comes from it being completely biodegradable - as in it doesn't have any metal screws, and probably wasn't painted with anything that would inhibit it being biodegradable. I'd bet the upholstery is biodegradable as well. #toshibaspacechair
@WWSJD: Well, then, with your amazing training in aeronautical engineering, photography, AND holography, I expect you should be submitting your own short video soon, right?
You seem awfully stubborn about your off-hand assertion that Toshiba got ripped off by a prop company. I still think it's entirely possible that Toshiba's ad agency has some connections in the industry, managed to negotiate a reasonable price for the prop, and shot the commercial using trained professionals.
But maybe you're right, aeronautical photo-holographer. Maybe the prop company could have done it for about $50, and they went and filled a bathtub with all the extra money they got out of this - which would also be a great way to save money on their upcoming bathtub commercial. In this economy, everybody's got to get creative!
Man, I hope you don't also run a side business involving bathtubs. That would be egg on my face. #toshibaspacechair
@fsusmithc2: Well, if the thing weighed about 4 pounds, and terminal velocity was 50 m/s, the force would be 90 newtons. 21 pounds of force. That would hurt. Probably wouldn't kill though.
Am I right? I am not an arithmetist. I work with people here. #toshibaspacechair
@Frisky Unicorns: How did you calculate the terminal velocity? You'd need to know the wind resistance. Are you just using some common value of terminal velocity, because something with a large size to weight ratio like this would have a much lower terminal velocity. #toshibaspacechair
@The Lab: I went the common value route. I used a slightly lower terminal velocity than that of a human skydiver, arms and legs spread. I also googled around for some other values, and found that close to 50 m/s seemed a good guess.
I'm picturing the schoolyard on launch day. The group of boys lights off a Testors rocket with a He-Man duct taped to it which goes maybe 500 ft. up. The boys high five each other and start to snicker as the girls bring out the balloons and teddy bears.
"If you haven't melted by now, you are not human."
It must be a bit frosty up in your neck of the woods. 19 miles, 62 miles, who cares? Have YOU ever sent a quartet of teddy bears that high? Seriously folks when I was that age I was chasing those girls around with sticks and pulling their hair.
I love love love the helmet made out of the bottom of a 16 oz. soda bottle.
Awww.... I think this is a great way to get kids, especially girls, interested in science and space. That and its just cute as dickens. (No, I dont know what that means, its some Palinism and seemed to fit.)
@Ibelieveinsandwitches: if you look closely you can see that at least one of the bears is wearing a protective helmet that appears to be made out of the bottom of a soda bottle. I'm pretty sure at least that one survived.
@92BuickLeSabre: *hands a cup of coffee* FTA: "reaching the 19 miles high mark powered by a latex weather ballon made by the Space Flight club at Cambridge University. They were wearing special suits made by school children"
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If I close it, all is good. But starting this particular page blows. #toshibaspacechair
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Last time i checked all wood was biodegradable and balsa wood cost like 4 bucks a sheet. And i think full sized model chair means they just made it so light you couldnt actually sit on it.
Artem musta seen these guys comin a mile away. #toshibaspacechair
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You're right, I bet that Toshiba forgot to consult the internet, and just wasted thousands of dollars on a prop for an advertisement.
As experts like you and I know, there's nothing special to consider at all when shooting video, especially when you do it unmanned from a balloon at 50,000 feet.
It's obviously not rocket science. #toshibaspacechair
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My point is they over hyped the dinky chair. Its just a gussied up piece of light wood. They act like its special, its a lightweight prop well painted and made of wood so they needn't bother retrieving it. The people who made it is a props company.
The balloon technology has been around for decades, you hang a rig from it and send it up. It makes all your object length stationary so the optics are quite simple especially with a modern camera. Im also an amateur photographer/holographer so im quite aware of that branch of physics as well.
Not every pithy comment on the internet is filed as serious commentary by a fool. #toshibaspacechair
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You seem awfully stubborn about your off-hand assertion that Toshiba got ripped off by a prop company. I still think it's entirely possible that Toshiba's ad agency has some connections in the industry, managed to negotiate a reasonable price for the prop, and shot the commercial using trained professionals.
But maybe you're right, aeronautical photo-holographer. Maybe the prop company could have done it for about $50, and they went and filled a bathtub with all the extra money they got out of this - which would also be a great way to save money on their upcoming bathtub commercial. In this economy, everybody's got to get creative!
Man, I hope you don't also run a side business involving bathtubs. That would be egg on my face. #toshibaspacechair
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My husband was hit in the head by your falling chair and is now dead!
Yeah, but did you see the commercial? #toshibaspacechair
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Am I right? I am not an arithmetist. I work with people here. #toshibaspacechair
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I wonder how much time ti would take a person to make the same fall? #toshibaspacechair
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"Teddy bears?!? Ha ha."
Later on: "19 miles?!! Wha???"
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SFW.
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Probably so.
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It must be a bit frosty up in your neck of the woods. 19 miles, 62 miles, who cares? Have YOU ever sent a quartet of teddy bears that high? Seriously folks when I was that age I was chasing those girls around with sticks and pulling their hair.
I love love love the helmet made out of the bottom of a 16 oz. soda bottle.
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I laughed at the helmet too! Sooooo cute.
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(No, I dont know what that means, its some Palinism and seemed to fit.)
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From Laika to these four poor bears. When will the bloodshed and senseless slaughter end!
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But seriously, have they already done everything else there is to do?
Are they just sitting up there thinking things like....
"Huh, what next? Let's see, what about cooked carrots?"
"Cooked carrots?"
"In space!"
"Ooooooh. Cooked carrots in space?!? Genius!"
This is not the way to convince me that we need to continue providing "sufficient" funding to NASA.
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Aaaarrrgghhh!
(And you're right, I haven't had my coffee yet - and only half a cigarette. Aaaarrrgh!)