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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    12/08/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    I used to use an iPod shuffle til they removed the buttons. For sports involving gloves, things with big buttons are best.

    Just as an aside, you are never, NEVER supposed to wear any sort of music player on any sort of public ski slope. With your eyes focussed so carefully down the hill, your ears are the only possible way to avoid an unseen collision.

    This is one of the reasons skiiers (like me) sometimes detest snowboarders, because they too often become absolute perils on the hill.

    Of course if you're off-trail, go nuts! But if your buddy is ever calling for help, you won't be able to hear them.
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    Image of mike.m mike.m
    12/08/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: I don't wear headphones when I snowboard and I can not hear skiiers, or anyone, behind me.

    Stick your head out a car window while its traveling 30 mph and let me know how much you can here with all that wind noise. Then reduce your hearing ability by putting on a nice thick hat and a weather proof hood. Put your head back out the car window again and report back your findings.

    You should not be using your ears to locate other people on the slope. You should be using your EYES. Also, it is the person's reponsibility behind ME to not hit me. It is not my responsibility to not hit a person coming up behind me. You should be looking ahead and to the sides. If you can not safely navigate the skiiers or snowboarders in front of you without losing focus on the hill in front of you, slow down, or stick to the bunny hill.
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    Image of Pope John Peeps II Pope John Peeps II
    12/08/09

    @mike.m: That's just not true. You can generally hear people well enough on a hill if you're paying attention, and they're making a regular amount of skiing noise. Sometimes people are just quiet, and there's nothing you can do about that. Just like you can hear fine out a car window at 30 mph. At least I can, maybe you just aren't paying attention.

    And yes, you should be using your eyes, but people often don't. When you're looking ahead, you very rarely look off to the sides to pick people out. Also, music distracts you from being aware of the surrounding people.

    I'm just saying don't take chances. Sure it's the other person's responsibility to not hit you, but why don't you just ALSO not get your ass hit?
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    Image of mike.m mike.m
    12/09/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Dude, how much can you really hear in the wind @ 30mph? Enough to hear yourself think maybe. I am not deaf either. True you can hear skiing / snowboarding noises behind you, but that's all they are, noises. A combination of the wind noise and (possibly) numerous riders behind, and its too dangerous to rely on that sense to gauge where others are. That's why every personal conduct policy at every slope I have been to states it is your job to avoid riders in front of you, or something to that effect. I actually found that I was falling *more* because I was taking attention off of keeping my balance trying to listen for riders behind me, and wondering whether the noise I was hearing was someone making a cut right on my ass or a gust of wind.
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    Image of lukeadams lukeadams
    11/18/09

    In reply to Baseball King Balls Throw the Curveball for You
    Adam and Jamie say that a riser pitch is impossible, and I only believe what they say.
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    Image of beercheck beercheck
    11/18/09

    @lukeadams: I'll bet they didn't try it with "a clump of dirt".
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    11/18/09

    In reply to Baseball King Balls Throw the Curveball for You
    Baseball is all about cheating.

    Does your bullpen stink? You can pay a lot of money for some good pitching or you can buy some lumber and build the giant wall in left field.

    Are you stuck with a shallow outfield? That's okay. Just let plants grow all over the wall and call anything that gets caught in there a double.

    And who needs to be nice to the visiting team? Put crappy water fountains in their dugouts.

    And while your at it, put a lip-reader in the bleachers with a pair of binoculars and a walkie-talkie to steal the other teams signs.

    Thank goodness there's no cheating going on anymore.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE
    11/18/09


    @OMG! Ponies!: Why do you need a lip reader to read hand signs? Shouldn't you get someone who understands ASL?
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    Image of iamskew001 iamskew001
    11/18/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_woot!sOffSoHard: I hope you're kidding man. If you're not, then I guess I'll inform you that the signs in baseball do not involve ASL. They are generally a series of essentially random movements made by the third base coach, until he makes the motion that is the "indicator", which is followed by the motion or touch that is the "sign," which tells the batter and any runners what they should do (hit and run, take, bunt, steal, etc.)
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE
    11/18/09

    @iamskew001: Yes, it involves hand signals, which someone who knows ASL would be very good at picking up, while someone who lip reads, wouldn't. They are also made by people OTHER than the third base coach, like the catcher, which is the most important one, actually, so you can decode what pitch is coming.
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/18/09

    In reply to Baseball King Balls Throw the Curveball for You
    It's like the concept used in the cork center variations for bowling balls I suppose -- my ball that I used for my HS bowling team (I can hear you laughing) was off center right because I was left handed and with the littlest effort it would break into a nice curve.
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE
    11/18/09

    @BergenCountyJC can edit his name?: What arrow(s) did you aim for? Or so I heard.
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/18/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_woot!sOffSoHard: Second from the left
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    Image of GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE GitEmSteveDave_My Brute Dojo CDIAFIFE
    11/18/09

    @BergenCountyJC can edit his name?: Did I ever tell you my idea for a sport which was a cross of miniature golf and bowling? It involves ramps and drop offs that emerge in other lanes. It looks amazing...in my mind!
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/18/09

    @GitEmSteveDave_woot!sOffSoHard: That does sound amazing -- though if I may offer a suggestion: Use these type of balls [en.wikipedia.org]
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    Image of 001100 001100
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    In Bestbuy ad (nov.15-21) they are offering Sanasa Clip+ 4gb for 39.99. Clip+ is like 2nd Gen of clip. comes with micro sd slot (HC support). Picked one up yesterday. great deal for the price. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of Nerdhacker1 Nerdhacker1
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    why the Pentax? what about the olympus tough-6000? where's the battelmodo for cameras that can we can use while snowboarding / surfing / saving the princess from a fire breathing dragon? #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    11/17/09

    @Nerdhacker1: We did a mini battlemodo here, and I can definitely vouch for the fact that the Oly is severely outclassed by the Canon D10, so this should basically answer all of your questions where princesses and dragons and snowboards are concerned. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    12/08/09

    @Wilson Rothman: don't recommend the d10 for snowboarding. no one who actually does anything out of water should buy that thing. huge nose.
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    Image of macpatrik macpatrik
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    I swear by Patagonia jackets. I have been wearing their jackets for skiing since I can remember. The quality is top notch, and the warmth is excellent.

    $150 might seems steep, but compared to other coats it actually very, very affordable. A comparable Northface or Columbia jacket will land you in the $300-400 range. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of AmphetamineCrown AmphetamineCrown
    11/17/09

    @macpatrik: Patagonia post-adoption of Goretex, anyway. Their Storm2No or whatever it was called sucked.

    I like patagucci for casual clothes and fleece (and their underwear is awesome). Mountain Hardwear has some good kit. But, for jackets, Arc'teryx is *the* brand.

    TNF (which used to be a real brand) and Columbia (which was never a real brand) are strictly for suburbanites who ski once a year.
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    Edited by AmphetamineCrown at 11/17/09 5:48 PM AmphetamineCrown was starred AmphetamineCrown was unstarred
    Image of farcedude farcedude
    11/17/09

    @AmphetamineCrown: I still have a lightweight windproof Mountain Hardwear pullover from like 8 years ago, that I wear about every other day, and still looks and wears like it's near new.
    Heh, "patagucci", heh. And I went in a TNF store the other day. Not so much. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of macpatrik macpatrik
    11/17/09

    @AmphetamineCrown: I guess it comes down to preference. And I don't find Patagonia to be pretentious at all. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of AmphetamineCrown AmphetamineCrown
    11/17/09

    @macpatrik: I don't find everyone who wears patagonia pretentious. The people who seem to work in their stores, yes, but I know plenty of normal people who wear the stuff. My reference to gucci was pricing related. Target can sell you a fleece for $2, but patagonia is gonna charge you $60. I realize they have to build factories that preserve all the dandelions in the vicinity and double as shelters for stray cats and dogs and will only harvest cotton under a full moon under the protection of Hesta after dancing in celebration of the cotton plant to be picked, but that kinda sensitivity to Gaia costs bucks. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of Animal_Chin Animal_Chin
    11/17/09


    @AmphetamineCrown: I partially agreed with your sentiments on TNF. While the consumer-grade crap they've been churning out lately is worthless in the back-country, they used to make quality jackets. I had a Kichatna jacket for around 15 years before the gore-tex started to delaminate. I brought it into my local store to see if it could be fixed. They shipped it back to TNF for me for free and when it was determined that it was FUBAR, they gave me a store credit for $500 (everything they sell has a no questions asked life time warranty). I was able to get a new gore-tex xcr jacket, pants and a nalgene flask with it. So, yeah, I probably won't replace them with TNF when they wear out in 5 years, but that's 20+ years of dry, breathable protection.

    For those that don't remember it, the Kichatna was the original "Gorton's fisherman"-yellow jacket that seems to be coming back in style these days: #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    11/17/09

    @AmphetamineCrown: I like patagonia stuff a lot. I like their eco policies and their design policies. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of AmphetamineCrown AmphetamineCrown
    11/18/09

    @Brian Lam: Don't get me wrong. I like their stuff. I actually like most of their eco-friendly policies. But reading their catalog gets a little... holier than thou. And, it does come at a cost.

    I also have found, over the years, that patagonia excels at insulating layers, but they have never been good at hard shells (the soft shell thing never did it for me). I'll happily shell out the bucks for patagonia boxers, capilene, R2, and fleece. But when it comes to what is on the outside, I'll take my money to Arcteryx or Marmot.

    I liked Animal Chin's story about the Kichatna, but I'll go one better. I still own a Marmot Red Fox jacket -- probably the first commercial gore tex shell made -- and it still looks like it came off the rack. I bought it in 1980. (Wearing it sounds like you are crumpling a potato chip bag, but at least you were dry). #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of Brian Lam Brian Lam
    11/24/09

    @AmphetamineCrown: I dont use a patagonia hard shell, either. I go to the reno outlet's clearance and score 70-80% off, though. I have a primo down for single digit degree days, but it sweats a bit. my combo now is arcteryx shell (not pro), patagonia or hh (light) fleece, pat. cap base or hh base. would like to try some wool tops but not bottoms. not enough stretch. and i'd like a new shell of gore pro. I like pro for sloppy days.
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    Image of yeah write yeah write
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    Not a big fan of the Nike iPod thing. I live in Charlotte which is moderately hilly and I was constantly recalibrating it. I ran a half marathon with it on and when I crossed the finish line it said I had run 9 miles.

    If you're running on flat surfaces it's great, and a cheap (if inaccurate) alternative to GPS watches. Just don't rely on it--you might end up running further than you intended. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of lpranal lpranal
    11/17/09

    @yeah write: I love when the GPS has odd little hiccups, usually in the middle of the woods, and when I review my route there are sections where I hit 450+ mph. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of ThePaul ThePaul
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    Suunto makes fantastic "Wristops," which are really just fancy-shmancy outdoorsy watches that are equipped with an array of sensors and doodads.

    [www.suunto.com]

    Sorry, no calculator function, but the barometer is good for forecasting weather conditions, the altimeter is great for tracking how much elevation you've gained on a good hike (or rode on an awesome snowboard run), the compass is great for knowing which direction you're hurling yourself into in the process of getting lost, and hey, it's a timepiece, too.

    Granted, Suunto watches tend to be a bit expensive, so check out other Wristop manufacturers, like Casio. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of CrispyAardvark CrispyAardvark
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat

    See previous. (Pic upload fail). #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of CrispyAardvark CrispyAardvark
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    Some brain-bucket audio for the slopes please Nerd Santa. Skull Candy helmet audio.
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    Wilson Rothman promoted this comment Edited by CrispyAardvark at 11/17/09 4:20 PM CrispyAardvark was starred CrispyAardvark was unstarred
    Image of weatherman weatherman
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    DMC-TS1 is less than $300 these days, and it's a damn fine ruggedized camera with a better-than-average zoom. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of CaptMoose CaptMoose
    11/17/09

    @weatherman: yup. I love mine. Great pictures and the battery life is about 2x some of it's competitors. I took it on a 6-night backpacking trip. Not carrying tons of extra batteries is important. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    How about a good ole-fashioned multitool? Good for geeks be they housecats or Ranger Rick.

    Also, telescopes (for astronomy, not spying). I try to keep my outdoor excursions to nighttime because sunlight makes me sparkle. And by sparkle, I mean radically pisses me off.

    And forget about Wii Fit; go with dumbbells and chin-up bars. I've taken to watching TV guido-style, meaning I use my dumbbells while watching shitty television.

    Finally, you don't have to get an entire set of clubs. A nice iron or putter is always welcome.

    So there you go. You can go relatively cheap (dumbbells), midrange (a good Leatherman), possibly pricey (golf clubs), or "Here's a birthday/holiday/anniversary present all rolled into one" (the telescope).
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/17/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: I thought Guido style exercising was making kissy faces at yourself in the mirror while telling yourself how sexy you are and standing under tanning lights.

    Wholeheartedly agree with a multitool though, just don't skimp on one, get a decent one. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    11/17/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: Multitool recommendation: the Leatherman Skeletool CX. Covers the basics, lightweight, and durable. Oh, and the 25 year (!) warranty is rather choice. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of farcedude farcedude
    11/17/09

    @KidSix: I always like the originals (sadly since discontinued), but have found the Crunch to be quite handy (vice grips in a Leatherman) #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    11/17/09


    @KidSix: Go simple and well built. This guy ([atwoodknives.blogspot.com]) micromanufactures some awesome tools. #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat

    Also, for anyone with an extra pesky $7k laying around, I'd be more than happy with one of these.

    [www.omega.ch] #outdoorgeekgiftguide
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    Image of bryan004 bryan004
    11/17/09

    In reply to Gifts for Outdoorsy Geeks Not Averse to Sunshine or Sweat
    I'll vouch for the Lumix DMC-TS1. My original plan was to get a tough/waterproof camera that took decent shots for adventure days, and then get an SLR for those "nice" shots. Well, how was I supposed to know that it actually takes "nice" shots. AND nice video. And, it fits in my back pocket. Sorry SLR :)
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