Out of curiosity, what's the difference between laptop and tower failure rates.
I'm fairly convinced that the increased heat and limited airflow in a laptop is murder on the parts (and thus good for the computer sales industry) but can find no definitive study on the topic. #laptops
@Pope John Peeps II: Does anybody even use desktop computers anymore outside of specialized gaming rigs? I'm pretty sure nobody who builds a gaming rig even attempts to use it without massive upgrades for an entire three years. #laptops
@Pope John Peeps II: shhh There's a reason you can't find anything on the topic. You might be silenced with that kind of silly talk.
but seriously, what you're thinking surely must be the case. This trend here even backs you up with netbooks, the even smaller computer, having a higher failure rate. So many components packed into ever shrinking cases just increases the self destruction factor of these things, but that's business. We can't give you those light bulbs that never burn out just yet. #laptops
@chefgon: Since desktops are so much cheaper, especially when buying the parts and doing some of the assembly yourself, you can basically buy one that stays relevant to technology for way longer than a laptop would. My desktop has 2 year old parts and is still very, very fast relative to today's tech. Well, maybe I need a new graphics card if I want to make it my media centre. #laptops
@chefgon: Yes, they do. I recently graduated from college, and got a job where I no longer needed a laptop for any meaningful reason, as I have high speed at my apartment and at work.
Why not get more power, more reliability, and more upgradeability for the same price, if mobility is a non-issue? #laptops
Scientists, Graphic Artists, photographers, video, 3d artists, engineers......
Yep, they all use desktops. Not to mention the larger widescreen monitors are nicer to use than any laptop monitor on the market. Desktops are the most flexible, upgradable, and cost effective way to do computing. The only spot they fail is the whole portability thing. #laptops
Honestly after the first year the machines I buy already are done with the warranty. I just repair them if I can. Only had one that wasn't worth it, a damn compaq with a motherboard that cost more to get a replacement for than near what I paid for it. #laptops
The whole thing wrong with this theory is this would be the most reported issues, as well as weighted for which laptop is the most popular (and vice versa, the least popular get less reports.)
Not to mention how many ARE reported in the first place. #laptops
@soggy_cheerio: I think what he means is while Lenovos might have a higher failure rate than Dell in this survey, there may be a lot more people with Lenovos with a SquareTrade warranty than Dells with a SquareTrade warranty. So Dell may still have a higher failure rate (I'm sure it does) but since less people who own Dells buy their warranty it looks more reliable.
That may have made sense or it may have sounded convoluted and senseless. (I've been up all night working on a scientific realism essay so I'm delirious, sorry) #laptops
@skywalker24: It's a shame it's not a statistics take home test.
And, yes, @nathan.hornby008: , it would be nice if confidence intervals were provided. They state in the report that they used a random sampling of 30,000 of their warranties, no indication of the distribution among the brands. (which we could infer ourselves from the confidence intervals) It's entirely possible that their random sample of 30,000 contained only a few dozen Apples. #laptops
@soggy_cheerio: Silly me for jumping to the appendix. 1000 units is mentioned in the article (it wasn't that interesting) but not in the section I focused on. Whoops. Mea culpa. #laptops
Just as there are "super noses" who can detect the slightest variation in a million wines, or people who can tell you exactly which frequency they're hearing, there will be people who can see blur in most LCDs.
Personally I haven't seen LCD blur since around 12-15ms response times became the norm. I see MPEG artifacting and trailing, and even dim afterimages in HDMI signals on PS3 and 360, but motion is not an issue. #motionblur
Umm isn't the 60Hz important because it exactly matches broadcast HD framerate? And 120Hz is because both 60Hz(for the reason above) and 24Hz(because movies are filmed at 24Hz) both go evenly into it? I always thought the issue was more with dropped frames and the like due to mismatched frame rates. #motionblur
@MarcusMaximus: Stop with the curveballs. This is any easy yes or no question. With that in mind, you can never tame the beast. Moving on... #motionblur
@N@tedog: How is that a curveball? The article says that 60 and 120Hz refresh rates aren't necessary to not have motion blur, and I responded saying It was my understanding they were mainly for a different, unrelated function, and one which they do actually perform. As far as I can tell that's perfectly on topic and a valid response. #motionblur
It'd be interesting to see how many of those Macs are running Windows as well.
Apple and OSX infuriate me sometimes though. Over the past few weeks 4 out of the 5 people in my household got iPod Touchs/iPhones (I'm the 5th). As I programmer I figured that since I have access to a wealth of dev machines now I might try some app programming. I then learn that Apple in their infinite wisdom (read: dickishness) have locked app development to OSX.
Well screw you Apple, I'm not interested enough in your platform to buy a new machine for.
He writes "of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."
... the "of" means that the "12% of homes with a Mac" becomes 100% of the subset in which he's distinguishing between Mac-exclusive vs. Mac+PC.
100% (the 12% subset of homes with Macs) - 85% (the % of that subset with Mac + PC) = 15% (households that are Mac-only within the subset of homes that have at least one Mac).
Also, if you go beyond the math, doesn't it also make common sense: if only 2% of Mac-owning households were Mac exclusive, that would mean virtually everyone with a Mac would also have a PC. That doesn't seem to be true in real life, but an 85% (mixed) / 15% (exclusive) split among Mac owners is credible.
But of the subset of households that own Macs (12% of total households, or 100% of households with Macs), if 85% of them also own PCs, that's 85% of 100% of the households with Macs, leaving 15% not 2% of the subset of households with Macs exclusively Mac.
@frigg: 15% of homes with macs, have only macs, would be correct, but that wasn't how it was read in the post. they were saying 85% of 12% which is why only 2% of total homes with computers have only Macs, not 85% of 100% mac households.
@HyperDrunk: That's right. total homes. But what he said was "What's surprising (or not) is that of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."
(my emphasis. he didn't say total homes, he said homes with a mac, which gives the wrong stat).
Almost everyone I know has either a Mac and a Windows box or uses BootCamp/Virtual Machine software. There's still so much that Windows can do that OS X can't.
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@otko: I'm not aware of anything that macs can't do that windows can. though I know that windows has probably 100 different programs that do the same thing to maybe 1 on a mac, but still, the mac can do it!
Yesterday I wanted to watch an out of market football game that I couldn't get here in MN. Bootcamped into Vista and loaded up Sopcast/TVU Player. I've been looking for an OS X version of something like that for a bit but I can't seem to find anything like it-especially one that lets me record what I'm watching.
*And if you want some other examples-browse Lifehacker on a daily basis. You always see some nice software that they come across and the first sentence will read Windows Only. It's not all the time-they have others that say "OS X only/Linux only". One aspect I LOVE about OS X is the amount of freeware made for it. It's second to none (except linux, blah blah blah)
@HyperDrunk: I still use the Windows side of my Macbook for the handful of things I can't do on OSX. Most of it specific for hardware, but the big one is the app software for my Garmin - their software support for mac SUCKS - and Fusion doesn't run it well.
I know these are specific issues, and it has gotten a LOT better in recent years. I know basic users can get away with just mac, but to suggest that anyone can do anything they need to do on a mac is a bit shortsighted.
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I'm fairly convinced that the increased heat and limited airflow in a laptop is murder on the parts (and thus good for the computer sales industry) but can find no definitive study on the topic. #laptops
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but seriously, what you're thinking surely must be the case. This trend here even backs you up with netbooks, the even smaller computer, having a higher failure rate. So many components packed into ever shrinking cases just increases the self destruction factor of these things, but that's business. We can't give you those light bulbs that never burn out just yet. #laptops
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Why not get more power, more reliability, and more upgradeability for the same price, if mobility is a non-issue? #laptops
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Scientists, Graphic Artists, photographers, video, 3d artists, engineers......
Yep, they all use desktops. Not to mention the larger widescreen monitors are nicer to use than any laptop monitor on the market. Desktops are the most flexible, upgradable, and cost effective way to do computing. The only spot they fail is the whole portability thing. #laptops
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Not to mention how many ARE reported in the first place. #laptops
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[en.wikipedia.org] #laptops
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That may have made sense or it may have sounded convoluted and senseless. (I've been up all night working on a scientific realism essay so I'm delirious, sorry) #laptops
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And, yes, @nathan.hornby008: , it would be nice if confidence intervals were provided. They state in the report that they used a random sampling of 30,000 of their warranties, no indication of the distribution among the brands. (which we could infer ourselves from the confidence intervals) It's entirely possible that their random sample of 30,000 contained only a few dozen Apples. #laptops
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Personally I haven't seen LCD blur since around 12-15ms response times became the norm. I see MPEG artifacting and trailing, and even dim afterimages in HDMI signals on PS3 and 360, but motion is not an issue. #motionblur
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Apple and OSX infuriate me sometimes though. Over the past few weeks 4 out of the 5 people in my household got iPod Touchs/iPhones (I'm the 5th). As I programmer I figured that since I have access to a wealth of dev machines now I might try some app programming. I then learn that Apple in their infinite wisdom (read: dickishness) have locked app development to OSX.
Well screw you Apple, I'm not interested enough in your platform to buy a new machine for.
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15% of 12% = 1.8%
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He writes "of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."
... the "of" means that the "12% of homes with a Mac" becomes 100% of the subset in which he's distinguishing between Mac-exclusive vs. Mac+PC.
100% (the 12% subset of homes with Macs) - 85% (the % of that subset with Mac + PC) = 15% (households that are Mac-only within the subset of homes that have at least one Mac).
Also, if you go beyond the math, doesn't it also make common sense: if only 2% of Mac-owning households were Mac exclusive, that would mean virtually everyone with a Mac would also have a PC. That doesn't seem to be true in real life, but an 85% (mixed) / 15% (exclusive) split among Mac owners is credible.
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John writes "of the 12% of homes with a Mac, less than 2% are Mac-exclusive."
But the study says "Of those 12 percent, nearly 85 percent also own a Windows-based PC."
Wouldn't that mean of the 12% of homes with a Mac, a little more than 15% are Mac-exclusive (not 2%)?
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Another way of looking at that is 10.2% of homes with computers own both a MAC and a Windows based computer.
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But of the subset of households that own Macs (12% of total households, or 100% of households with Macs), if 85% of them also own PCs, that's 85% of 100% of the households with Macs, leaving 15% not 2% of the subset of households with Macs exclusively Mac.
No?
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(my emphasis. he didn't say total homes, he said homes with a mac, which gives the wrong stat).
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*Yes I know Macs can get viruses/worms too.
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Yesterday I wanted to watch an out of market football game that I couldn't get here in MN. Bootcamped into Vista and loaded up Sopcast/TVU Player. I've been looking for an OS X version of something like that for a bit but I can't seem to find anything like it-especially one that lets me record what I'm watching.
*And if you want some other examples-browse Lifehacker on a daily basis. You always see some nice software that they come across and the first sentence will read Windows Only. It's not all the time-they have others that say "OS X only/Linux only". One aspect I LOVE about OS X is the amount of freeware made for it. It's second to none (except linux, blah blah blah)
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I know these are specific issues, and it has gotten a LOT better in recent years. I know basic users can get away with just mac, but to suggest that anyone can do anything they need to do on a mac is a bit shortsighted.
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