Just saw this today in Monterey at the Breakwater / Coast Guard Pier. Was going out diving, and I have to admit it would be interesting to go down to 200+ feet in this sub. I know how much work there is in diving that deep, it would be cool to be "spoiled" and not have to worry about decompression stops etc.
Taking that flying sub into the monterey bay would be amazing. The water isn't the clearest because it is full of tiny food for the amazing amount of life found there. Clear water is nutrient poor which is why it is less fun to dive in the clear Caribbean water. Monterey is the best diving I've had in this hemisphere.
Ah but once under water don't aerodynamic principals become hydrodynamic principles? Or are they all just different applications of fluid dynamics? Wait I know! It's magic and you a damn WITCH!
@Xeno: technically speaking. hydrodynamics and aero dynamics are both applications of fluid dynamics. air is in reality a viscous fluid as is water. so principles that work in air work just the same in watter. aerodynamics is just fluid dynamics with constants based on principles of air. hydrodynamics has constants based on water. and fluid dynamics has those constants as variables.
@Xeno: The real question is does it actually use the same principles as "flying"? A plane creates lift using an aerofoil that forces air to go over the top faster than the bottom. The pressure differential is what causes the actual lift. I think that this sub would just use the force of the water pushing on its "wings" to cause it to dive? I wouldn't technically call that "flying"...but maybe I'm just too critical?
About time we had something like this. I'm a huge car audio buff and I've been lamenting the lack of car audio tech stuff around here. They don't seem to have any over at Jalopnik either.
Might want to get your facts straight though.
First, the ZX500 was only rated for 600w bridged. Granted, you would have had the sub wired to 3 ohms (since that is a Dual-6 ohm sub), which is below the rated impedance of the amp, so you were probably putting out more than rated power, but unless they clamped it, there would be no way for you to know that.
Second, your specs on the ZX450 are off too. Most component sets are set up to present a final load of 4 ohms. If you were running all 4 channels, you'd be looking at 75w per channel, 300 total. If you had the amp bridged to two channels, you'd be looking at 250w per channel, 500 total.
Oh, and 8 gauge wire isn't thick. In all reality, it's not even adequate for that setup. You'd need at least 4 gauge for that to run reliably, and you really should have had 0 gauge in just to be safe.
@IITravel: I assumed that he meant the 8 gauge was for the amps. The only time you use that large of wire for speakers is for higher-powered subwoofers. There's no way you'd use that for components or coaxes. Hell, I don't even know how you would unless you soldered the wire directly to the leads.
@Hintzyboy: zx500 was running in mono, dude. 3ohms. You got that right.
The 8gauge, I can't remember. It was like 10 years ago. 8gauge was going to the doors, a set to the midbass, a set to the cross that was doing the mids/highs.
Glad to hear you here! It's been so long, but I like talking about this shit.
if posting shitty thoughts is good enough to make it into the comments section.
honestly, you don't have to visit the site. it's his site, he can say whatever the hell he wants. furthermore, it's about music technology and its personalized (one of my favorite parts of gizmodo).
Nice read. Here's a suggestion: you guys could address the surprise I felt when I recently realized music on my Sony Ericsson cell phone sounded better than it did on my iPod (using same headphones, same song, same file bit rate). I only needed a little research to find a new non-Apple mp3 player that sounds better than both my iPod and my cell phone and has reignited my joy for listening to music through headphones. I'd love to see a battlemodo on the best sounding mp3 players out there.
@KingsleyDawlers: That's fascinating. Since most of the decoding chips out there are super commoditized, and everybody generally uses the same set of suppliers, it's interesting to hear that you heard such a quality difference using the same phones, etc. Well worth investigating—not this week, alas, but I'll definitely add it to our list.
@Wilson Rothman: I notice a minor (but noticeable) difference on some songs when listening on my 5G iPod vs. my Touch Pro (in the TP's favor actually), but I've got to assume that some advances in sound quality were made in the 3-4 years that elapsed between the two devices being released.
I also notice a definite difference between ~128k-256k mp3s and real CDs on my car audio setup (obviously in the CD's favor), but when I am listening to music through headphones from either my iPod or my phone I must admit I really don't care that much about the quality, just the fact that I have the tunes to listen to is good enough, and I never really crank my headphones anyway. But on my car setup the difference can be pretty noticeable when it is cranked (depending on the song).
Not that I expect that anyone really cares but here is my car setup:
-Premiere DEH-P8MP CD/mp3/iPod @45x4 (i think)
-Alpine Type R 4-1/2" 2-ways up front
-Alpine Type R 6" 3-ways in the back
-Kicker 10" Solo (one of the original models, it was my room-mate's and he used it for about a year when it was new then totaled his car and put his pair back in the boxes for like 5 years before giving me one for like $50)
-Custom made wood vainer box, made for the specific volume requirements of a solo; "hand-crafted" and wired by a tech at the Martin-Logan production/finishing facility (happens to be in my town).
-I just bought some "Cartech" cheapo 1000watt amp to replace my old Rockford amp that was getting flaky, I really don't have the money anymore to be spending on this stuff, but I figured hey, if I could get a 1000watt amp for under $150 that was recommended to me by a guy at an audio shop, and it came with a 1yr warranty, he said I could bring it back to that shop and they would replace it if it went DOA or flaked out; that it was probably worth it, and it does sound WAAAAAY better than the Roc-Fos shit-block it replaced...
@JazlynTuditanus: See here young'un, I myself ain't no fan'o'that there rippety-rap neither, but if ya'had a few more winters under'yo belt you might remember a time when pop music wasn't utter shit, and we were all still comin'ta'terms with this whole spoken-word-o'er-bass thing.
Nao, my memory doesn't quite serve so well any'm're but if'n I recollect cr'etcly there was a time where that ther Big Poppa feller could could spin'ya a rhyme quite well, it seems ta'me that most ever'body of a certian age twas diggen on them rhymes quite well (myself a som'time participn't alike).
Aw, now I gone an forgot whur I wus goin'wit'dat...
It is a bit frightening to think that some small country (Iraq, Iran, Korea) with a few million laying around could manufacture something like this for evil purposes.
its funny how the world can forget drugs that cause death and destruction all over the world and focus on a bunch of arabs that were "so clever" to bomb the World Trade center
@The-Joker: Obviously the US government thinks so. Cocaine's pharmaceutical name is "Esterom" and if you have a presciption, it's legal. Actually, just about every illegal drug is available if you have a presciption (you just have to know it's "legal" name).
It's amazing how hypocritical the world is!
Call it Cocaine, Heroin, or Meth and it's horrible...but, call it Oxycodone (or Nubaine...or Morphine), Esterom or Adderall and suddenly it's ok!
In actuality, alcohol and obesity are responsible for more death and destruction than any illicit drug can do. ...and if you say that's not true, you've never seen anyone go through alcohol D.T.'s and have their organs shut down from alcohol withdrawl.
@PynkFloydd: Since the generic name of Adderall is "Amphetamine" and not METH-amphetamine, me thinks you might be a little off. Speaking of which, there's 40 mg of Amphetamines calling my name from the magic blue box in my kitchen! Gods bless you ADHDA!
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Taking that flying sub into the monterey bay would be amazing. The water isn't the clearest because it is full of tiny food for the amazing amount of life found there. Clear water is nutrient poor which is why it is less fun to dive in the clear Caribbean water. Monterey is the best diving I've had in this hemisphere.
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Might want to get your facts straight though.
First, the ZX500 was only rated for 600w bridged. Granted, you would have had the sub wired to 3 ohms (since that is a Dual-6 ohm sub), which is below the rated impedance of the amp, so you were probably putting out more than rated power, but unless they clamped it, there would be no way for you to know that.
Second, your specs on the ZX450 are off too. Most component sets are set up to present a final load of 4 ohms. If you were running all 4 channels, you'd be looking at 75w per channel, 300 total. If you had the amp bridged to two channels, you'd be looking at 250w per channel, 500 total.
Oh, and 8 gauge wire isn't thick. In all reality, it's not even adequate for that setup. You'd need at least 4 gauge for that to run reliably, and you really should have had 0 gauge in just to be safe.
/anal-retentive rant
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0 gauge wires to the full range speakers? Uh really?
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The 8gauge, I can't remember. It was like 10 years ago. 8gauge was going to the doors, a set to the midbass, a set to the cross that was doing the mids/highs.
Glad to hear you here! It's been so long, but I like talking about this shit.
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honestly, you don't have to visit the site. it's his site, he can say whatever the hell he wants. furthermore, it's about music technology and its personalized (one of my favorite parts of gizmodo).
go back to your hole troll
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I also notice a definite difference between ~128k-256k mp3s and real CDs on my car audio setup (obviously in the CD's favor), but when I am listening to music through headphones from either my iPod or my phone I must admit I really don't care that much about the quality, just the fact that I have the tunes to listen to is good enough, and I never really crank my headphones anyway. But on my car setup the difference can be pretty noticeable when it is cranked (depending on the song).
Not that I expect that anyone really cares but here is my car setup:
-Premiere DEH-P8MP CD/mp3/iPod @45x4 (i think)
-Alpine Type R 4-1/2" 2-ways up front
-Alpine Type R 6" 3-ways in the back
-Kicker 10" Solo (one of the original models, it was my room-mate's and he used it for about a year when it was new then totaled his car and put his pair back in the boxes for like 5 years before giving me one for like $50)
-Custom made wood vainer box, made for the specific volume requirements of a solo; "hand-crafted" and wired by a tech at the Martin-Logan production/finishing facility (happens to be in my town).
-I just bought some "Cartech" cheapo 1000watt amp to replace my old Rockford amp that was getting flaky, I really don't have the money anymore to be spending on this stuff, but I figured hey, if I could get a 1000watt amp for under $150 that was recommended to me by a guy at an audio shop, and it came with a 1yr warranty, he said I could bring it back to that shop and they would replace it if it went DOA or flaked out; that it was probably worth it, and it does sound WAAAAAY better than the Roc-Fos shit-block it replaced...
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Nao, my memory doesn't quite serve so well any'm're but if'n I recollect cr'etcly there was a time where that ther Big Poppa feller could could spin'ya a rhyme quite well, it seems ta'me that most ever'body of a certian age twas diggen on them rhymes quite well (myself a som'time participn't alike).
Aw, now I gone an forgot whur I wus goin'wit'dat...
Hey! GIT OFF MY LAWN YOU LITTLE PUNK!
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It is a bit frightening to think that some small country (Iraq, Iran, Korea) with a few million laying around could manufacture something like this for evil purposes.
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its funny how the world can forget drugs that cause death and destruction all over the world and focus on a bunch of arabs that were "so clever" to bomb the World Trade center
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It's amazing how hypocritical the world is!
Call it Cocaine, Heroin, or Meth and it's horrible...but, call it Oxycodone (or Nubaine...or Morphine), Esterom or Adderall and suddenly it's ok!
In actuality, alcohol and obesity are responsible for more death and destruction than any illicit drug can do. ...and if you say that's not true, you've never seen anyone go through alcohol D.T.'s and have their organs shut down from alcohol withdrawl.
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