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    It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain

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    Image of Purple Dave Purple Dave
    11/19/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain
    We think dogs are smart because we can teach them to perform tricks to satisfy our whims. Cats think the same thing about people.

    Also, true story: I recently witnessed a dog, who freaks out at everything that walks past her house, being let out the front door for a quick run around the neighborhood. She immediately turned left and ran a couple houses away to relieve herself. Not thirty feet away in the other direction there was a thoroughly terrified rabbit that was obviously very glad that the dog went the other way. Now, that's not why I'm writing about this event. No, it's because when the dog came _back_, she _still_ failed to notice the rabbit, and ran straight back to the front door. Dogs are dumb.
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    Image of Bokusatsu_Tenshi Bokusatsu_Tenshi
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain

    I can has portable vershun?
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain
    This brings a whole new way of looking at Schrödinger's cat paradox. If we replicate the cat's brain and way of thinking, is it a cat or not? What dictates life and what dictates death?
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    Image of zlionsfan zlionsfan
    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: I think it probably just means you couldn't use cybercat in the experiment; either that or instead of using acid or gunpowder, the system would have to cut power to cybercat or otherwise disable it to generate multiple states.
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    11/18/09

    @zlionsfan: I think that acid is definitely needed to fully understand the cat paradox
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    11/18/09

    @johnnylineup: lol ... I think on acid you could probably see a mixture of both states.
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    Image of anonymousryan anonymousryan
    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: I don't think you understands Schrödinger's cat paradox. It has to do with quantum mechanics. If I recall correctly, it has to do with some physicists believing that energy/matter exists in two states simultaneously, as a wave and a particle, until it is observed at which point it becomes one or the other. The paradox for Schrödinger is that if you apply this system to a cat in a box with 50% chance of being alive and 50% chance of being dead then the cat is both alive and dead until you look in the box at which point it is one or the other. The cat is just a means, it could as easily be a light bulb or anything with multiple states like water.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/18/09

    @anonymousryan: Twas a mere joke. I guess it whooshed.
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    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: Sorry, I'm a philosophy nerd and take my thought experiments too seriously.
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    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: I think it would simplify the paradox if the cat-in-a-box were Virtual in nature... If you wanted to ensure the state of the cat-in-a-box you'd simply unplug the cord and wait a couple seconds. It would be dead every time.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/18/09

    @bustedchain: But does the cat really die? If you plug it back in, the cat may be alive still/again.
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    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: Edit: You bring up a very good question, but I still think the virtual cat would not be the same one that lost power.

    Chances are a cat would come back alive if the system could handle a hard powerdown like that, but it would not be the same virtual cat that was there before because this new cat would have, at the very least, experienced a unique bootup that it had not experienced before, so arguably it is a different virtual cat that exists. Beyond that, chances are the cat lost everything it had in ram at the time of the power loss unless it was using that new-fangled ram that retains its last state. Of course if the developers include that technology they may have foiled my theory here.
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    Edited by bustedchain at 11/18/09 4:02 PM bustedchain was starred bustedchain was unstarred
    Image of Hiphopopotamus Hiphopopotamus
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain
    I dunno about this... Tamagotchi seems to have nailed it with only 1/147456th of that.
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain
    So how do you program it? lolcode?
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    Image of J_Frank_Parnell J_Frank_Parnell
    11/18/09

    @ripfire: I can has bitz?
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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    11/18/09

    @J_Frank_Parnell:

    HAI
    CAN HAS STDIO?
    VISIBLE "HAI WORLD!"
    KTHXBYE
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain
    If being unfriendly were any kind of mimickry of intelligence, Chihuahuas should look like friggin' geniuses, but they're dumber than a sack of chalupas.

    No doubt God is not going to be happy with mankind coming closer and closer to mimicing animal brains.

    Oh dear. I guess I'll be sending this slices of bread, just like I did the LHC. Gabriel, make it so.

    Mmmmm verry good sir
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    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/18/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: When did Gabriel become an old British butler?
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/18/09

    @MarcusMaximus: The same time Jean Luc Picard became God.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain

    We're in ur mainframe, crunchin ur numberz
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    Image of Ishbar Ishbar
    11/18/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: First lolcat to make me laugh, ever.
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    Image of RayKinStL RayKinStL
    11/18/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: I lol'ed
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    11/18/09


    @Ishbar: I can has flowding maff coprosesser? KTHXBAI
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    11/18/09


    @RayKinStL: I'm bettur then a Mac Quadra an i'm not evun tryin
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    Image of Bokusatsu_Tenshi Bokusatsu_Tenshi
    11/18/09

    @OMG! Ponies!: I can has simulated braiz?
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    Image of Lassus Lassus
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain
    That sign would make me concerned that those computers were listening.
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    Image of FigNinja FigNinja
    11/18/09

    @Lassus: Except cats don't listen. At least mine never do.
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    11/18/09

    In reply to It Takes 147,456 PowerPC Processors To Out-Think a Single Stupid Cat Brain

    They could probably fit all the processors necessary to out-think me in this building.
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    11/16/09

    In reply to World's Fastest Supercomputer Is World's Largest, Tackiest Case Mod Too
    It could've been worse:
    They could've tastelessly slapped a metric ton of EL accents, LEDs, and useless slabs of lucite on that bitch, cutting multiple windows in the case just so you can watch the blinkenlights symbolically represent the computing going on. #jaguar
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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    11/16/09

    In reply to World's Fastest Supercomputer Is World's Largest, Tackiest Case Mod Too
    So, stickers really do make your car go faster? #jaguar
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/16/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Yes, that and bright yellow brake calipers/drums. #jaguar
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    Image of Twanzio Twanzio
    11/16/09

    @KeyserSoze: Don't forget really dark tint and a bass speaker the size of Delaware. #jaguar
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    Image of KeyserSoze KeyserSoze
    11/16/09

    @Twanzio: and stick on fake hood scoops and fart can exhausts on 4 cylinder car's. Also, neon under the car makes it way faster too. #jaguar
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    Image of AndPreciousLittleofThat AndPreciousLittleofThat
    11/16/09

    In reply to World's Fastest Supercomputer Is World's Largest, Tackiest Case Mod Too
    Accordingly, the next in the Cray line will now be called "Cool-Ass Airbrushed Wizard Slaying Dragon, Bro" and will play Blue Oyster Cult songs at startup. #jaguar
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    11/16/09

    In reply to World's Fastest Supercomputer Is World's Largest, Tackiest Case Mod Too
    So the new center of the electronic world is... Tennessee? Who knew?? #jaguar
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    Image of Michai Michai
    11/16/09

    In reply to World's Fastest Supercomputer Is World's Largest, Tackiest Case Mod Too
    " 1.74 quadrillion floating points operation" <----- My response, "Holy shit!"

    Following Moore's law, can you imagine in 50 years when personal computers will have that computing power. At such computing power will all PC's be identical having capped the markets need for computing? What would an individual need with such computing power? #jaguar
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    Image of jiggpig jiggpig
    11/16/09

    @Michai: until we have robots that can make me a sandwich, there will always be a need for more computing power. #jaguar
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    11/16/09

    @Michai: I always find this helpful to remember regarding Moore's, or any exponential growth situation really:

    [en.wikipedia.org]

    On 13 April 2005, Gordon Moore stated in an interview that the law cannot be sustained indefinitely: "It can't continue forever. The nature of exponentials is that you push them out and eventually disaster happens." #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: "...eventually disaster happens."... where a new exponential curve begins. #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @Michai: I have a feeling it will mean something more like this

    [www.vimeo.com] #jaguar
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    Image of NorwoodIsMyHero NorwoodIsMyHero
    11/16/09

    @Michai: Haha, so true, I find it hard to imagine what disaster would befall us if transistors kept getting exponentially smaller.

    He did also point out that their are ultimate limits at the atomic level to how small things can get. #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: One word... Skynet. #jaguar
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    Image of SkipErnst SkipErnst
    11/16/09

    @Michai: I'd argue closer to 25 years rather than 50.

    According to this article ([www.macobserver.com]) the fastest Mac Pro in 2008 was 1/12,142 as fast as RoadRunner.

    Given that ratio, it will only take 14 doublings (which is 16,384 times more) to reach this speed for a consumer computer.

    Moore's law says we should expect a doubling of transistors on a chip every two years which comes to only 28 years.

    Ray Kurzweil argues (convincingly) that the doubles are occurring faster than every two years and in fact are themselves speeding up. So 28 years is probably a very conservative estimate.

    But will it run Crysis? #jaguar
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    Image of brianmi40 brianmi40
    11/16/09

    @Michai: Since we've made similar statements for decades now while Moore's Law has been working and had all those needs filled and more, I'm believing that you'll need this power for your latest 3 dimensional Hollo-Deck display in the game room of your house by then where a MMG finally exceeds 100 million simultaneous players and even the cockroaches walking under your feet are being modeled and you have infinite zoom to be able to check molecules in objects. Bottom line, whatever computing power is created will cause applications to be written that will enable it's use, and more... #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @kosai: Thanks for the vid, very cool. I'd like to add that it does not account for the intelligence of software aiding in the conductibility of trillions of computers. #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @NorwoodIsMyHero: Here is a cool fact that everyone may find interesting. All of todays digital information, if translated into a physical weight, would weight about the same as large grain of salt*. Given that knowledge a atomic matrix the size of a 6 sided die has the potential to hold more than enough information for generations to come.

    *(I read this story in either one of my Scientific American or Discover magazines, I spent a few minutes looking for the article but could find which month or magazine it was. Props to the person who locates the original article for me. It was within the last 9 months.) #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @SkipErnst: Yes true, but Kurzweil doesn't account for - like anything the closer you get to reaching the exponential's vertical the longer it takes. Also a change in transistor tech from silicon to 'whatever' will cause an initial slowing of the curve. #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @brianmi40: Your probably right. Can you imagine programming for 240bit software platforms!? #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: lol #jaguar
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    Image of Monty Monty
    11/16/09

    In reply to World's Fastest Supercomputer Is World's Largest, Tackiest Case Mod Too
    Dude, Apple dumped the Jaguar release years ago since it had significant user interface and speed issues - they need to get Snow Leopard on this thing ASAP.I assume they are leasing time on this system for those silly scientists and engineers to use to figure out the answer to life, the universe, and everything. Multiply six and seven, geeks - your search will be over and we can stop building these crazy fast systems. #jaguar
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    Image of Dustin Dong Dustin Dong
    11/16/09

    @Monty: not sure what you are referring to about jaguar? #jaguar
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    11/16/09

    @Dustin Dong: Sorry, I confuse myself, too:

    [en.wikipedia.org] #jaguar
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