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    Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card

    The First USB 3.0 Certified Device

    First SuperSpeed USB 3.0 Controller Is Out

    Super-Speed USB 3.0 Formal Unveiling Next Week, Windows 7 Won't Support Natively
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    Image of jrblackman006 jrblackman006
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    I am going to get one of these and a USB 3.0 mouse.
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    10/31/09

    @jrblackman006: Well done sir. Welcome to Gizmodo. #usb30
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    Image of dagamer34 dagamer34
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    Gimme a low profile card PCI-E x1, and I might bite. Otherwise, I'll probably just stick with eSATA. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @dagamer34: Judging by my skimming of the article, ASUS went with PCI-E x4 instead of x1 because of bandwidth issues.

    But maybe I'm misreading. Last night was a loooooong night. #usb30
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    Image of Peregrinvs Peregrinvs
    11/01/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: It wasn't /that/ long.

    Also, when you swap up to a better mouse, I get your old one. ;] #usb30
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    11/02/09

    @Peregrinvs: Like hell. My mouse cannot get any better.

    Unless I find a mouse that can make nachos and pizza and get me a soda/whiskey/both, while I still use it to frag nOObs. Is that part of USB 3.0, or will I have to wait for 4.0? #usb30
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    Image of Peregrinvs Peregrinvs
    11/02/09

    @whiteknight89 still plays DiabloII: Then just give me your soul so I can convince Intel to give me a chipset with DDR5 ram and a couple of those fancy PCIE 2.0 SSDs.

    =D You've gotta be worth somethin', right? #usb30
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    Image of B-low B-low
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    I don't know... I don't think I would sacrifice a PCI-E slot just for a couple of USB 3 ports. Most motherboards are likely to have a surplus of SATA ports in which case it would be easier to just install some SATA to eSATA converters. The existing SATA standard already nets you 3Gbps which isn't too much slower than USB 3.0's 4.8Gbps.
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    Image of M1A1D M1A1D
    10/31/09

    @B-low: True, but you can't beat the plug-and-play convenience. Which would you rather trust granny to plug in: a USB device or an eSATA device? #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @M1A1D: I'd give a granny a wireless mouse and watch while she tried to plug it in. #usb30
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    Image of Counterglow Counterglow
    10/31/09

    @B-low: @B-low: I have to disagree a little here. 3Gbps vs 4.8Gbps is a transfer speed difference of more than 60%. That's pretty significant, I think.

    I still agree generally...it's tough to sacrifice a PCI-E slot when you'll have lots of extra SATA ports. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: If you're already transferring at 3gbps, it's hard to imagine having a file large enough for the 4.8 gbps to make a big difference. Well, on a domestic computer, at least. I guess it's the difference between a 30 second transfer, and a 20 second transfer. But that's still not much. #usb30
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    Image of christopher.feller001 christopher.feller001
    10/31/09

    @Pope John Peeps II: Most of the time you're probably going to be transferring data from an internal drive with an interface speed of 3.0Gbps to an external USB drive. So you're still capped at 3.0Gbps regardless of the fact the USB interface speed is 4.8Gbps.

    Plus, I imagine there is some overhead anyway translating from SATA to USB 3.0.

    SATA and eSATA are just two different physical interfaces. They both use SATA commands.
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    FigNinja promoted this comment Pope John Peeps II approved this comment christopher.feller001 was starred christopher.feller001 was unstarred
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    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: Shouldn't we first determine how much of that 4.8 Gbps is available in the real world?

    High speed USB 2.0 is rated at 480 Mbps = 60 MB/s...but in the real world, you're lucky to be able to get half of that. As I understand it, the real-world limit is due to overhead, extra processing, etc. in the spec. I've never seen any device that can actually transfer even 45 MB/s over USB 2.0.

    Do we know if the 4.8 Gbps is going to actually be achievable? #usb30
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    Image of M1A1D M1A1D
    10/31/09

    @B-low: That's why you don't get sugar cookies when you go visit Nana! #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Counterglow: Seeing as only the most elite RAM-based "hard drive" devices can even think of touching 3Gbps currently, forget it. 4.8 isn't gonna happen for you. #usb30
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    FigNinja promoted this comment rentahero1 was starred rentahero1 was unstarred
    Image of Sneaky0 Sneaky0
    10/31/09

    @B-low: 3Gbps and 4.8Gps are both great speeds, but what devices are there that's capable of those speeds. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Sneaky0: Right now nothing that I'm aware of. Some NAS setups in RAID are well capable of write speeds in excess of 500MBps or over 4Gbps but I think at those thresholds you begin to see bottle necks all over the place. I'm not sure if many CPUs can handle data transfer at that rate. #usb30
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    Image of PanhandleJoe PanhandleJoe
    10/31/09

    @B-low: It *will* matter when things like card readers, still cameras, and camcorders, etc. start coming along with USB 3.0 support. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @PanhandleJoe: Support and read/write speeds are not the same thing. #usb30
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    Image of Sneaky0 Sneaky0
    10/31/09

    @B-low: That's what I meant. Without a raid setup or similar, reaching those speeds are nearly impossible. Also the average users don't even know what a raid is. It's great having a connection that's capable of those speeds, but until manufacturers start making fast disks at consumer prices. These connections are somewhat useless in the real world. #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Sneaky0: Agreed! #usb30
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    Image of Iggy Iggy
    10/31/09

    In reply to Asus Continues USB 3.0 Onslaught With a Cheap PCI-E Card
    Are there ANY USB 3.0 devices right now? #usb30
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    Image of Kerfudle has free , and ... Kerfudle has free , and ...
    10/31/09

    @Iggy: Of course their is, we all know about those pci cards thats asus is selling... #usb30
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    10/31/09

    @Iggy: .... asus had a test usb 3.0 drive and going from 2.0-3.0 did increase transfer rates quite a bit

    [www.pcper.com] #usb30
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    Image of thebigcheese thebigcheese
    09/21/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Certified Device
    Couldn't they just make that camera use Firewire like every other professional piece of camera gear?

    You're going to need lots of space for that footage, though.
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    09/21/09

    @thebigcheese: That looks more like a web cam than a piece of professional camera gear.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    09/21/09

    @thebigcheese: Firewire is not widely adopted, but USB3 will be. I'd say it's sort of a no-brainer. Besides, who really cares about Firewire for a webcam except old Macheads still clutching to their old iSight cameras?
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    Image of BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2 BergenCountyJC can't beat MW2
    09/21/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Certified Device
    Looks kinda big to me
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    Image of bobojuice bobojuice
    09/21/09

    @BergenCountyJC: Contrary to popular belief, this is not at all what she said.
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    09/21/09

    In reply to The First USB 3.0 Certified Device
    'bout time
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/12/08

    In reply to Super-Speed USB 3.0 Formal Unveiling Next Week, Windows 7 Won't Support Natively
    Such a busy mass transit-like logo. None are as good as Firewire's, even if it did give off that sort of DANGER:RADIOACTIVE SHIT IN YOUR TUBES appeal.
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    11/12/08

    @Kaiser-Machead's Cookie-Powered LEGO Machine: Sounds like my bathroom after I have curry vindaloo.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/12/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: I believe we've all been there.
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    Image of strider_mt2k strider_mt2k
    11/12/08

    In reply to Super-Speed USB 3.0 Formal Unveiling Next Week, Windows 7 Won't Support Natively
    No, they went right to the Asian knockoff companies for the logo to save time.
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    Image of Julien321 Julien321
    11/12/08

    In reply to Super-Speed USB 3.0 Formal Unveiling Next Week, Windows 7 Won't Support Natively
    Wonder if Snow Leopard will support USB 3.0 or is in the same "time constraint" boat as Windows 7?
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    11/12/08

    @Julien321: If Leopard taught us anything, it's that Apple can put out a commercial making fun of Windows delays, then announce that its own OS will be delayed, then make fun of Windows for needing periodic patches, and then release a service pack for its already delayed OS within 2 weeks of the late release.
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    11/12/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: So I guess Snow Leopard won't be supporting USB 3.0, but Apple will release commercials poking fun at Windows 7 for not supporting it either?


    Honestly, that wouldn't surprise me much.

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    11/12/08

    @USB_Humping_Dog: If Dante Alighieri is to be believed, Apple's advertising department has an entire wing reserved for it in the Eighth Circle of Hell.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/12/08

    @OMG! Ponies!: Old news. Hell's been expanded.


    [www.theonion.com]

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    Image of OMG! Ponies! OMG! Ponies!
    11/12/08

    In reply to Super-Speed USB 3.0 Formal Unveiling Next Week, Windows 7 Won't Support Natively
    That logo reminds me of Amtrak. Great.
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    11/12/08

    In reply to Super-Speed USB 3.0 Formal Unveiling Next Week, Windows 7 Won't Support Natively
    Love me some USB 3.9 goodness. Come on baby, give me a kiss.
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