@Software_Goddess: Your observation shows insight and wisdom. He also hit himself in the head with his own sword. This one has much to learn, indeed... #hubu2robot
Watching Kung-Fu movies and 9 months of Jui Jitsu does not constitute 19 years of martial art training. Not all people who own collectible swords are irredeemable idiots. If you were the wise master you think you are, you'd know that it doesn't take a rare antique highly fashioned weapon to do the job. I own several swords ornamental and authentic and could just as easily use a rolled up newspaper to dispatch someone. You should know that before you flash around you false logic.
@PhilipIcarus: Yes. So now that you're done making a fucking idiot out of yourself by revealing how little of what I wrote you actually bothered to read and understand, I'll tell you this:
- Owning a "collectible" sword is, with almost NO exceptions at all, the purview of idiots who dream about learning how to be manly and fight, without having the discipline to learn ANY art. It takes years of dedication, years of effort. Something which you try to circumvent with 475 dollars worth of cheap metal.
"What he did was justified, and the thief deserved to die."
Wrong. It's not justified to kill a man over a stolen ps3 and laptops. However, it is justified to kill a man who lunges at you while you fear for the safety of your life or the lives of others.
The guy was acting in self defense. I'd be pretty pissed off myself if I were in their shoes. What he did was justified, and the thief deserved to die.
Did you read a word of that comment? Being a pretentious asshole doesn't change the fact that getting screwed over is not fun. EVERYTHING you own are valuables. You could try to look cool and virtuous to us all by saying "money is material" and crap like that, but it doesn't change the fact that you THRIVE on that paper. A burglary can ruin your life. It DID ruin someone's life. And when they tell about it, you DARE to patronise them? The SHEER NERVE. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
Just an interesting thought on the "subdue him" line of comments, I'm not opposed to subdueing someone, I live in AK where you don't legally need to have a concealed carry permit to carry a concealed firearm. For better or for worse thats the way it is and I rountinely carry my pistol with me out of the house (unless I am going to class later in the day, just dont feel comfortable locking it in my car while i'm in class).
On point though, if I were to draw my pistol (and trust me, it takes a LOT to make me feel the need to unholster my weapon) they have 3 choices, run away, show me their hands and kneel down, or approach me and run the serious risk of being shot. Unlike what a lot of people seem to say here, I have no strong desire to shoot someone, and while I know many of you seem to disagree, I believe it's necessary to clearly announce the fact that you have a firearm. They may run the risk of bodily harm by breaking into my home, but I'll give them the opportunity to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
I think before any judgments are made regarding whether the students actions were justified, you should really read the article.
1)The suspect had 29 prior convictions for crimes such as breaking and entering. This crime happened on a Tuesday and the suspect had just been released from jail that Saturday.
2)The suspect was previously charged with several weapons charges, including trying to fire on an officer.
3)The student killed the man with only one strike of the sword.
For anyone saying it was excessive force, you have no idea what kind of threat the burglar represents. In this case there was a very high chance IMHO that the burglar would have tried to kill or atleast injure the student.
Add it all up and the answer is: It was Completely Justified.
Luciana, that is the lamest comment I've ever read. You must be single without kids or a wife. IF someone breaks into my house:
1. I have no idea what they are there to do. My assumption is NOT that they are only after some stuff that I can replace.
2. I HAVE to assume the worst considering the one fact I know is that they are uninvited and already a criminal.
3. The worst thing my mind jumps to is the rape of my wife, the death of my children, then the death of me.
4. I would not trust my split second visuals to GUESS if he had a gun/knife/etc hidden in a pocket/pants/jacket. I will leave that GUESS work to law enforcement people who are trained to do so and choose to put their life in danger to do so.
5. I would absolutely kill to protect my wife and children from rape and/or death.
6. If I had to go to jail for that action, then I would at least know that I protected my wife from rape and my kids from death... and for that I would pick jail over the alternative ever time.
7. Even after a first shot or first slash of a sword to defend my home, I am not going to take time to asses if the intruder is "disabled" and give him time to pull his gun/knife or tackle me for mine. I will ensure he disabled when he doesn't move anymore. If he got lucky is just unconscious but if death comes first then so be it. I can VERY easily see how someone can shoot off an entire clip of ammo, or slash a sword repeatedly in the moment due to pure fear or retaliation by the SERIAL KILLER who has broken into your house. YES SERIAL KILLER, they do exist and if someone uninvited is in my house, that is my assumption... they are there to do some seriously sick things to me and my family. If they were just there for some free stuff, then all I can say is they should consider potential of death prior to their actions.
All the above is why people that defend their homes and kill and intruder do not usually go to jail. Pure 100% unchecked fear for your life and the life of your family would lead the vast majority of people with an option (gun/sword/etc) to use it immediately and keep using it until you no longer felt threatened. And that for me will come only when I can tell the intruder is no longer moving and obviously not playing possum.
The only way to be truly safe in your own home is to have a life size Andre the Giant statue that is motion activated. Turn it on before you go to bed, and sleep peacefully until morning.
"My men are here! I am here! But soon *you* will not be here! "
Don't tell me you wouldn't crap yourself and run after Fezzik yells that at you.
God you know what I would do if I saw someone in my house is that I would immediately go to my huge gun collection and retrieve my rare Hungarian ASP-43 .98 calibre anti-tank weapon and would aim it at this man from point blank range. And as his body disintegrated into a great red mist I would strip down naked and dance in his blood.
Or even better - even though I haven't done any sort of push up or physical exercise for 12 years, I would immediately reach for my antique Roman Cestus gauntlets and challenge the burglar to hand to hand combat. Obviously since I've seen the 36 Chambers of Shaolin 8 times, I'll have an incredible advantage over this man. Also I did 9 months of jiu jitsu when I was 19 so am fully versed in combat, and possess the ability to kill upon command. Killing comes naturally to me. As naturally as drinking a Mountain Dew: Code Red does. I'm just one of the people in this world who are plainly more evolved. You can see this by my incredibly Halo scores.
11/13/09
Humanity won't only be conquered or exterminated by robots... it'll also suffer the worst types of humiliations ever. T_T #hubu2robot
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- Owning a "collectible" sword is, with almost NO exceptions at all, the purview of idiots who dream about learning how to be manly and fight, without having the discipline to learn ANY art. It takes years of dedication, years of effort. Something which you try to circumvent with 475 dollars worth of cheap metal.
09/16/09
Wrong. It's not justified to kill a man over a stolen ps3 and laptops. However, it is justified to kill a man who lunges at you while you fear for the safety of your life or the lives of others.
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On point though, if I were to draw my pistol (and trust me, it takes a LOT to make me feel the need to unholster my weapon) they have 3 choices, run away, show me their hands and kneel down, or approach me and run the serious risk of being shot. Unlike what a lot of people seem to say here, I have no strong desire to shoot someone, and while I know many of you seem to disagree, I believe it's necessary to clearly announce the fact that you have a firearm. They may run the risk of bodily harm by breaking into my home, but I'll give them the opportunity to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
09/15/09
1)The suspect had 29 prior convictions for crimes such as breaking and entering. This crime happened on a Tuesday and the suspect had just been released from jail that Saturday.
2)The suspect was previously charged with several weapons charges, including trying to fire on an officer.
3)The student killed the man with only one strike of the sword.
For anyone saying it was excessive force, you have no idea what kind of threat the burglar represents. In this case there was a very high chance IMHO that the burglar would have tried to kill or atleast injure the student.
Add it all up and the answer is: It was Completely Justified.
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ZING!
09/15/09
1. I have no idea what they are there to do. My assumption is NOT that they are only after some stuff that I can replace.
2. I HAVE to assume the worst considering the one fact I know is that they are uninvited and already a criminal.
3. The worst thing my mind jumps to is the rape of my wife, the death of my children, then the death of me.
4. I would not trust my split second visuals to GUESS if he had a gun/knife/etc hidden in a pocket/pants/jacket. I will leave that GUESS work to law enforcement people who are trained to do so and choose to put their life in danger to do so.
5. I would absolutely kill to protect my wife and children from rape and/or death.
6. If I had to go to jail for that action, then I would at least know that I protected my wife from rape and my kids from death... and for that I would pick jail over the alternative ever time.
7. Even after a first shot or first slash of a sword to defend my home, I am not going to take time to asses if the intruder is "disabled" and give him time to pull his gun/knife or tackle me for mine. I will ensure he disabled when he doesn't move anymore. If he got lucky is just unconscious but if death comes first then so be it. I can VERY easily see how someone can shoot off an entire clip of ammo, or slash a sword repeatedly in the moment due to pure fear or retaliation by the SERIAL KILLER who has broken into your house. YES SERIAL KILLER, they do exist and if someone uninvited is in my house, that is my assumption... they are there to do some seriously sick things to me and my family. If they were just there for some free stuff, then all I can say is they should consider potential of death prior to their actions.
All the above is why people that defend their homes and kill and intruder do not usually go to jail. Pure 100% unchecked fear for your life and the life of your family would lead the vast majority of people with an option (gun/sword/etc) to use it immediately and keep using it until you no longer felt threatened. And that for me will come only when I can tell the intruder is no longer moving and obviously not playing possum.
09/15/09
"My men are here! I am here! But soon *you* will not be here! "
Don't tell me you wouldn't crap yourself and run after Fezzik yells that at you.
09/15/09
It's justified, and he deserved it. And may he also serve as an example for thieves out there.
09/15/09
Or even better - even though I haven't done any sort of push up or physical exercise for 12 years, I would immediately reach for my antique Roman Cestus gauntlets and challenge the burglar to hand to hand combat. Obviously since I've seen the 36 Chambers of Shaolin 8 times, I'll have an incredible advantage over this man. Also I did 9 months of jiu jitsu when I was 19 so am fully versed in combat, and possess the ability to kill upon command. Killing comes naturally to me. As naturally as drinking a Mountain Dew: Code Red does. I'm just one of the people in this world who are plainly more evolved. You can see this by my incredibly Halo scores.