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Yanguang
10/30/09

In reply to Video: Android 2.0 Running on T-Mobile G1 aka HTC Dream
There's still hope for seeing Eclair on my HTC Magic then :D #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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OCEntertainment
10/30/09

@Yanguang: Aside from the will of the powers that be, there's not really that much of a scare of the Magic not receiving the update. The issue the G1 has had (available space) is due to a 70MB system partition, which 2.0 is pushing up against. The Magic has a 90MB system partition, which leaves plenty of room. The only thing you guys have to worry about is your carrier withholding the update. Which I personally doubt they'll do. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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Neight
10/30/09

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How does Android 2.0 stack up against the whole hero/sense build HTC has done? If you ahve a G1, do yourself a favor and flash one of KingKlick's hero/sense ROMS (check htcpedia dot com). It's unbelievable. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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fdisk
10/30/09

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I just noticed his battery went from 1/2 to 1/4 in the 8 minutes he used it. Since synching is not available and he barely did any 3G browsing

I'm assuming the little 528 Mhz processor on the G1 was really struggling to keep up with the OS.

Cyanogen ROMs have been overclocked for a while now, so I hope he'll work his usual magic and gives us a solid, useable release. I don't mind buying him a couple more beers for it! #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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InsanePenguin
10/30/09

@fdisk: One of my big complaints about Android is the battery indicator, it doesn't really seem to be incremented well. I think what probably happened was his battery was at, say, %30 and still reading 1/2 on the indicator, then went down a little from there and flipped to 1/4.

I seriously (hopefully?) doubt 2.0 will suck down THAT much power over normal. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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Crashproof
10/30/09

@InsanePenguin: There's a widget (or 12) for that. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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Sith_Mafia
10/30/09

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can't we just wait till the official 2.0 firmware push occurs? #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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tande04
10/30/09

@Sith_Mafia: There has been a question of if there is going to be an official 2.0 push for the G1. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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TryAgain
10/30/09

@tande04: True, but they said that about Donut as well and they were wrong. 2.0 will make it to the G1 in some form of that I am supremely confident. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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tande04
10/30/09

@TryAgain: They did. There is no doubt that there will be 2.0 in some form (as seen here) just a question of an official release. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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Sith_Mafia
10/30/09

@tande04: i dont see why they wouldn't. It's just software. All android phones should be able to run the latest version, some might take advantage of it better than others due to hw, but we should still get it. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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FooSchnickens - BPH Free
10/30/09

@Sith_Mafia: The biggest thing is physical memory of the device itself. The G1 has a piffling amount of internal OS-dedicated memory and putting 2.0 would leave very little in place for application use. Not a problem for rooted users like myself using apps2sd, but for the general schmoe, you'd be somewhat limited on free space, and potential performance. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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Mr_Nowitt
10/30/09

@tande04: I think that there will be. Seems possible if they cut out all the additional apps from telecom providers, and move them to the Apps store for individual downloads. Similar to the Droid app store that has Free, Pay and Verizon App tabs. This would also move the apps to the removable memory rather than on board saving space. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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tande04
10/30/09

@Mr_Nowitt: I don't think that would change anything.

The app store is alredy set up that way. Apps don't load off the memory card (which is one main draw back). So regardless of how many tmobile apps they don't preinstall it wouldn't matter in the end. Besides it's a bigger problem than just general free space. It's the partition of the os that's at issue. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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PurpleMonkeyDishwasher:
10/30/09

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So the sluggishness is not attributed to the specs of the G1 but rather to the software port of the coder? That's good news, I'm sure (CN)2 will come up with something good. #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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TryAgain
10/30/09

@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher: : The slugishness is because this has been done using the software from the emulator, not a full rom. Cyanogen has said that once eclair is released to the AOSP he will be building a ROM for it. Akira deserves credit for getting this running (and also for creating the ROM I am Currently using). #tmobileg1htcdreamandroid20
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Neight
10/02/09

In reply to T-Mobile Pushing Android 1.6 Donut Update Right Now
I've been rocking the HERO OS on my G1 for a week or so now and can honestly say I don't know why you would want to use anything else. I wish they would come out with a HERO phone with a qwerty is all I'm sayin..
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logruszed
10/01/09

In reply to T-Mobile Pushing Android 1.6 Donut Update Right Now
You know I've tripped a lot of circuits, oh lord I've maxed a lot of capacitors; but I never touched nothing that my logic board could kill.

you know I've seen a lot of machine intelligences ambulating around with BSODs in their eyes, but the pusherbot don't care if you simulate life or if your main-board fries.
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cudthecrud
10/01/09

In reply to T-Mobile Pushing Android 1.6 Donut Update Right Now
I've cyanogen'ed my phone already. Should I restore it to Tmo OS just to get their legit Donut or is it the exact same thing I've been running?
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Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!
10/01/09

@cudthecrud: why would you do that when Cyanogen's ROM still gives you functions that the legit 1.6 update isn't going to give you? Apps2SD ALONE is reason enough for me not to give a rat's ass for the legit update.
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FooSchnickens - BPH Free
10/02/09

@cudthecrud: Just give it a few weeks and i'm sure there will be a cyanogen update with all those extras put in there (if they're any better than what it's already packaged in 4.0.4).
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Bloodbeard
10/01/09

In reply to T-Mobile Pushing Android 1.6 Donut Update Right Now
I've been running Donut features for a few weeks. Most of the changes are good, but I can't stand the new camera.
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Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!
10/01/09

@Bloodbeard: same here. Been running Donut in one form or another for weeks thanks to Cyanogen. Overall it's good, new camera blows though. It runs faster when a lot of things aren't going on in the background. It's great when you're trying to do something, like, send a text message while on the phone through bluetooth but you have some other crap running in the background.

Ahhhh Android....so much potential, hamstrung by shit hardware....thanks HTC...really, I mean it thanks for the brillance that is the G1.
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FooSchnickens - BPH Free
10/02/09

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: I know right? HTC has had a long history with putting yesteryear's technology into new phones and trying to make it sound shiney. Can't polish shit.

And I swear the first person who cites the mythbusters episode is getting a trout to the face.
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ritalin
08/20/09

In reply to Android Hacking For The Masses
Though I would drop in to comment on a few things. For all those new to flashing a new rom, there are a few things to be careful of even though you now have root access.

1st Its a good idea to have some sort of access to your SD card in your phone OTHER then the USB teathered method. This should not be TOO big of a deal today as most PCs have a Card reader built into them.

2nd SD cards themselves can make a big difference in performance. While it is possible to run apps off of the card that came with your G1/MyTouch its not really suggested. Most users have a Class 6 sdcard. Any of the the following from newegg should work very well : [tinyurl.com]

3rd Make sure the rom you download supports your SPL and Radio. ***You can end up with a non booting phone if you dont have the right SPL and a crappy connecting phone if you dont have the right Radio. Look on your phone in SETTINGS> ABOUT PHONE >Baseband Version. This number will tell you what radio you have install on your phone. Also if the ROM you are downloading states that it needs any type of special SPL, then I would suggest going with another ROM till you become a little more familiar with flashing. Cyanogens ROMs are a good place to start as they do not need a special SPL installed. As for the Radio if you have version62.50S.20.17U_2.22.19.26I you should be fine.

4th While I feel that Cyan Roms get the most attention and to some degree deservingly so. The most stable ROM in my opinion as of late is the JACxRom which can be found here: [forum.xda-developers.com] In truth this doesnt matter as most people in the community cant seem to keep the same rom on their phone for more then a few weeks, if that. So once you get use to flashing and what it involves, feel free to play with a few of the roms to find the one that works best for you. Also if you have a question about anything make sure to post it in this forum. [forum.xda-developers.com]

Good luck and welcome to the community.
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dingus
08/20/09

In reply to Android Hacking For The Masses
Never go full Hero... Cyanogen 4.0.1
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dnyyanks62
08/20/09

@dingus: Hey, can you fill me in why not?
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dingus
08/20/09

@dnyyanks62: For starters, you need the Danger SPL...
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ColonelGentleman
08/20/09

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I really like that little events notice on the front page. I wish my iPhone had that. Like a little area for text alerts that stays on the main page all day instead of the silly calendar alerts that ring/vibrate then go away.
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John Herrman
08/21/09

@ColonelGentleman: Yeah, Android's got the best notification system by far.
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Tony Bostony
08/20/09

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it has been removed from the android market
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HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.
08/20/09

@Striderhayasa - Can we get some damn m/kb support?!: That's good, I was thinking Google was pulling an Apple for a second there.
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Chris Eckman
08/20/09

@Tony Bostony: It's still up.
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butaneko
08/20/09

In reply to Android Hacking For The Masses
New York and Eastern time displayed simultaneously?! Sign me up!
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Geisrud
08/20/09

@butaneko: Brings meaning to the phrase, "In a New York minute."

If you notice, clearly the NY time is different than Eastern
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commentotron
08/20/09

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Did this last week, and RyeBryes app is the way to go. The other option will make you want to kill yourself.

Cyanogen 4.01 is excellent. The MT3G does not have as much RAM as the Hero, so running a Hero ROM can be problematic.

Apps to SD is not a big draw on the MT3G since it has ample on-bard storage for apps compared to the G1, and using APPS2SD can result in some compatability issues.

YMMV, but perf is noticably superior on the new ROM.
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