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    Image of Demonbird Demonbird
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    Not surprising, but I am surprised Verizon is number 1 when I have had recurring paperweight status inducing errors to my phone (On 4th one) for the last 3 months, and when I went to verizon they told me NOT A SINGLE SOUL has suffered this error before (Though I brought printouts from their site of people reporting it, they refused to see them) and blamed me repeatedly for the error, refused to comp my bill any for the downtime their incompatibility with the phone THEY SELL caused.

    "We can replace your phone, but we'd need you to sign up for another two years and to move your upgrade date."

    "But, you broke my phone, that isn't fair. This is a amss defect and another one will do it as well."

    "We can replace your phone, but we'd need you to sign up for another two years and to move your upgrade date."

    "... I'm going with AT&T, they'll give me a refurbed iphone for 50$ and charge me less a month anyway."

    "..... uhhhhhhhh"
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    Image of crsrc crsrc
    12/02/09

    @Demonbird: the same exact thing happened with my first gen chocolate years ago. The touch buttons stopped working on 3 different phones in 3 months and each time they would bitch and moan about replacing it. The last time they didn't have any in stock and they refused to even give me a discount on a single phone, even with signing a new contract. Since I was going on vacation the next day I was forced to pay full price to replace the piece of junk LG.

    I vowed to never buy another LG and to leave Verizon as soon as my contract was up, which I did when it ended around the time the iPhone 3g came out.

    Everyone is always hoping the iPhone comes to Verizon but I am praying any carrier but them gets it. The 2 years I was with them their customer service was so bad I could really care less how great their service was. No customer should be treated with such blatant disrespect.
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    12/02/09

    @crsrc:
    Same deal with me, but they wanted to extend my contract just to replace with the same phon, said if Iw anted a different one I myself would choose I would have to pay full retail, though the Nokia Intrigue I have, that they sell, has incompatibilities with their network that renders it unusable.

    How has AT&T treated you?
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    12/02/09

    @Demonbird: I haven't run into any problems with ATT (other than shitty coverage, but I rarely can't make a call and I have decent 3G at least half the time in the Bay Area).

    With the iPhone, you just deal directly with Apple for hardware problems so that side I can't really say. Apple is pretty good with replacing a broken iPhone though. I've known several people that have shattered their screens and many have gotten it replaced for free and at the very least they'll give you another for the subsidized price (although it seems that if you politely complain enough they'll always give it to you for free)
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    12/02/09

    @Demonbird: That's funny. I simply called Verizon and they sent me a different phone to accommodate me.
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    Image of Demonbird Demonbird
    12/02/09

    @muchdrama:
    Gee, too bad they won't do that with me. It's either a new phone with a new contract, full retail, or I take the same phone and wait for it to die, all while they tell me to kindly go screw myself and that this is all my fault.
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    Image of veronykah veronykah
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    I have to say some of the problems with the iphone, seem to be the PHONE.
    I have a jailbroken 2g running on tmobile, I used to have a blackberry pearl. From the day I got the iphone it started dropping calls, crap call quality etc. Problems I never had with the blackberry.
    Fortunately I use my phone more for text, internet and email because it pretty much sucks as a phone and unfortunately that isn't ALL att's fault.
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    Image of presto117 presto117
    12/01/09

    @veronykah: well, an unlocked iPhone works much worse than one working on it's proper network.
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    12/02/09

    @veronykah: Hm, all of your points on the iPhone being jailbroken on tmobile SOUND like valid reasons as to why the quality of my call experience suddenly plummeted.
    However, my roommate also has an iPhone [she made the switch to ATT and has a 3Gs] when I mentioned my issues she agreed.
    Said the call quality is crap and she now drops calls all the time and barely gets service in our apt [I magically get service where she does not though...guess its my unlocked phone working "much worse than one on its proper network" huh?]
    I think the issue in the iPhone, ATT just makes it worse.
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    12/02/09

    @presto117: So this only applies to an iPhone?
    I've used plenty of other phones that were unlocked and never had issues like this....
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    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    I have to say, I have always been 101% happy with my service from Verizon. I deal with AT&T at work, and that experience alone will keep me from having a personal account with them for anything ever. EVER.
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    Image of philibuster philibuster
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    Consumer Reports just surveys your whiny friends. Lots of them.
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    Image of BeyondtheTech BeyondtheTech
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    Where's Seth the Blogger Guy when you need him? Save us, oh you Manly, Sloppy Dork of the Blessed Blue-and-White-Striped Sphere!
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    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    T-Mobile usually roams on AT&T's network and yet they get second?

    Oh and don't ignore that fact that they clearly state under the scores "Differences in reader score of less than three points are not meaningful."
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    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    I know AT&T in general sucks something terrible, but I've been pretty happy with their service in the Midwest. Verizon (for me) was the worst customer service I have ever dealt with. Everyone's experience differs.
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    Image of Hello Mister Walrus Hello Mister Walrus
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    "bringing up the rear is our friend AT&T."

    That's what they get for bringing it up your rear.

    Hahaha... ok I'll go now.
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    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    But this news comes from a reputable source

    So, Verizon Wireless commercials aren't reputable sources?
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    Image of antpwny antpwny
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: They're bias, this is a 3rd party. So it is more reputable, (however I know that Verizon was using AT&T's 3g Maps.) from an objective standpoint.
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    12/01/09

    @antpwny: I probably should have used a "/sarcasm" tag.
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    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: Yeah it might have helped hahaha.
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    I seriously hope that Apple wises up and starts to offer the iPhone to other service providers. If T-Mobile suddenly had an iPhone + contract deal right now, I would get out of my chair, step out of the office, and buy that mamajama this second.
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    Image of ninjagin ninjagin
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    Great point about the exclusivity deal, but somehow I think that we'll have more exclusive phone-to-carrier agreements in the future.
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    12/01/09

    @ninjagin: I doubt that. The possibility of something like this happening will have manufacturers hedging their bets.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/01/09

    In reply to AT&T Comes in Last in Consumer Reports Study That Surprises No One
    More surprising is that T-Mobile's service took second. Really? I mean, I've never had too much of a problem with T-Mo's service, so it's not a huge shock, but I wasn't aware they even beat out Sprint. Not bad, T-Mo! Not bad at all!
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    Image of ninjagin ninjagin
    12/01/09

    @OCEntertainment: Agreed. T-Mo's been right by me. Now if they could only get the Moto Milestone onboard, that'd be great ... -=sigh=-
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    12/01/09

    @OCEntertainment: It's all about the customer service with T-Mobile. In the image you can see several times where T-Mobile's voice services are lower than a carrier that it got an overall better reader score than.
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    12/01/09

    @OCEntertainment: Sprint suffers because of their already-bad reputation. From many that I have talked to, they just repeat the same complaints they heard someone else say that hasn't had the service in 5 years.

    T-Mobile's target audience doesn't expect much and therefore has minimal complaints. That's the impression I get from the T-Mobile customers here in NYC.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: Yeah. Unfortunately for companies, bad reputations tend to stick around for a while. I wonder how long AT&T's bad rep will hang over their heads? ;-)

    In unrelated news: Wow that star didn't take long at all, did it? Kudos!
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    Image of seanpat12 seanpat12
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: I agree with that statement 100 percent.

    I told my friend my carrier was sprint ans she goes "why would you get sprint they suck." I asked them if they ever had sprint and she said no. She had Verizon, but the point is people say sprint is bad from word of mouth.

    In reality though every time I called sprint customer support or used the web chat support they always left me satisfied. The one thing I love about sprint is when I had to get my phone replaced, they sent me a brand new phone at my request.

    I know I sound like a corporate cheerleader, but I am just stating my experiences
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    Image of Doc Benway Doc Benway
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: You are totally right. However, that doesn't change the fact that I had a Sprint representative lie to me, when called on it hang up on me. That was 7 years ago. Do you think with an impression like that I would ever try them again. That is the lasting impression Sprint left on me and I don't think I am in the minority.
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    12/01/09

    @OCEntertainment: I have been around for about a year and a half...

    ...does it really take that long?

    ...and thank you very much sir for the congrats.

    It is most appreciated.

    On topic, AT&T Wireless ruined my friend's credit with their shoddy bookkeeping way back before they became Cingular and back to AT&T.
    Their reputation will always be bad in my eyes.
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    12/01/09

    @seanpat12: ...and you are stating my experiences as well.

    I rarely have a problem with Sprint and they are always adding new services - sometimes without charge like the "Any Mobile - Any Time" thing.

    With the max insurance plan, I don't pay a deductable or have any questions asked other than what's wrong with it.

    They either fix it on the spot or immediately order a new one. People complain about customer service but they are the same people acting aggressively with the rep on the phone. Who wants to go out of their way for someone like that?
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    12/01/09

    @Doc Benway: Actually, that happened to me recently when I called a Sales rep out when he told me he couldn't give me the TP2 for $199 when many people in our gadget circle had already purchased the same device from the same department. I explained that I couldn't be fooled, he "put me on hold to be transferred" and, *oops!* I was disconnected.

    When a 3rd party company called me and asked me about my experience, I let Sprint have it. Other than that instance, I never have problems with anyone I talk to at Sprint.
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    Image of techsan13 techsan13
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: Did your friend pay their bill?
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    Image of Ben.Molina Ben.Molina
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: Onthe Sprint point I definately agree. whenever someone finds out I have sprint as my carrier, the first question I'm asked is : How can you afford it?

    In reality, I pay almost HALF what I would pay compared to ATT or Verizon. In my area, T Mobile is a joke; better left for the high school kiddies that are only worried about texting and having a phone in wacky colors.
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    12/01/09

    @techsan13: Yes. Well, I was on his account and I paid the bill but there would always be a weird $700+ charge out of nowhere. I spent an average of 20 hours per month on the phone with customer service.

    There were so many weird things happening on that bill that it looked like a Pittsburgh Pirates scorecard.
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    @Ben.Molina: It's almost scary how SprintPCS is so much more cost-effective than their competitors.

    I practically get unlimited minutes and unlimited data/text on my TP2 for $69.99 + 25% discount for the company I work(ed) for.

    I get fast speeds. I get no dropped calls. How can that be beat right now?
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    Image of Ben.Molina Ben.Molina
    12/01/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: I have the same device and plan.

    Let me ask you one thing though; are you getting tethering free of charge? If not, ask me how.
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    12/01/09

    @Ben.Molina: I currently do not have a use for tethering. When I do, I will be sure to ask because I know that Sprint will ban it soon.
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    Image of Ben.Molina Ben.Molina
    12/03/09

    @Dr. Evil Genius: technically it's banned right now on the "Everything" plans. Tethering access is just a registry change away though.
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    11/25/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    I have a relatively dumb phone. But it's:

    A) A cheapass contract phone which while not having a huge amount of minutes has unlimited texting and 3G internet as well as free calls to anyone on the same provider.

    B) Has Skype and facebook integrated. Skype is a big draw for me as I can talk to most people I know on it.

    I was thinking of getting an iPhone but eh it's not that worthwhile. Don't get me wrong it's still a great phone but you can do a similar job with an iPod Touch and a 3G mifi for a lot less money which is what I'm doing instead.

    Depends how much you value a compass, GPS and a camera. Out of those I think I'll only miss the camera and only barely.

    If I do pick up a proper smartphone when my contracts up I'll probably go android. I couldn't justify an iPhone after purchasing a 3rd Gen iPod Touch.
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    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Forget the Cliq - substitute with the N900 :)

    Incidentally, that's what's in my pockets right now (Pre, Droid, 3GS, N900)...

    Ah the joys of review units!
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    Image of Colin Cassady Colin Cassady
    11/24/09

    @tnkgrl: are you the same tnkgrl from the OQOtalk forums?

    And Amazon has yet to ship my n900 :(
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    11/24/09

    @tnkgrl: n900? How stinky! The best tmobile phone is an unlocked 3gs
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    11/25/09

    @cruzer555: But the 3GS does not have 3G on T-Mobile US, while the N900 does.
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    11/25/09

    @Colin Cassady: It is me, but mostly I'm here: [tnkgrl.wordpress.com]
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    11/25/09

    @tnkgrl: Its worth it for the vastly superior hardware and software.
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    11/26/09

    @cruzer555: The N900 and iPhone 3GS have the same processor, and the iPhone wins by being thinner and featuring a capacitive screen...

    Otherwise the N900 hardware wins in every way. Better primary camera (5 MP with Zeiss lens and dual-LED flash), higher screen resolution (800x480), hardware keyboard, standard micro USB data/power port, micro-SDHC card slot (in addition to the built-in 32 GB of storage), stereo speakers, secondary front-facing camera (VGA), built-in kick stand!

    So how the iPhone 3GS hardware better than the N900 again?

    I have both devices, and own the iPhone 3GS (the N900 is a review unit), so I'm just being objective here.
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    11/26/09

    @tnkgrl: I admit the camera is better, flash in a phone however is USELESS. The screen resolution is indeed much better, I hope the next iphone will match it. Hardware keyboards SUCK they are a waste of space and slower for typing. Micro USB is worse than ipod dock connector because you can't dock it in a stereo system as easy. Micro SD is not necessary in a 32GB phone. All phone speakers suck, stereo or not. NOBODY needs a front facing camera in a god damn phone!!! Kick stands are useless wastes of space.

    Out of all the things you listed, many actually make the N900 WORSE like a crappy hardware keyboard. Only 2 things are better: the screen resolution, and the 1.8 extra megapixels.

    It is not worth using such an inferior phone with a pathetic crippled OS (maemo cant even use portrait mode) when the only advantages are more screen resolution (with an awful resistive touch screen) and a SLIGHTLY better camera.

    Summary:
    -The OS is literally the worst, even windows mobile 6 is better
    -The hardware keyboard practically doubles the size and slows down your typing
    -It has the worst type of touchscreen, a pathetic, atrocious resistive one
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    11/27/09

    @cruzer555: Have you even used and compared both devices in person? I presume not.

    Have you tried the hardware keyboard on the N900? Obviosuly not, since it's pretty decent.

    I generally avoid using the flash on any camera (except for fill), but saying it's useless is a bit much...

    It's nice to be able to copy a music or videos from the 32 GB of storage to a friend's micro-SD card for them to enjoy on their phone without using Bluetooth or needing a computer - I've done it!

    The front-facing camera is useful for video chat software (like Skype) - most people just don't know it's even possible to do this on a phone and assume a laptop is required.

    Maemo is one of the best OS's I've ever used on any phone, and I've reviewed quite a few (check my blog: [tnkgrl.wordpress.com]) .

    Maemo is pretty much a full-on version of Debian linux with a fast and intuitive touch UI sitting on top.

    There's not technical limitation why the UI mostly landscape (the phone app and the picture viewer automatically switch to portrait, BTW).

    It's just that the N900 is the successor to the N810/N800/770 Internet tablets, and as such is primarily meant to be used 2-handed in landscape.

    Better than Windows Mobile? Are you kidding me? Clearly you don't know what you are talking about. Maemo is a gem.

    Have you tried surfing the web with N900? It's pretty much full-on Firefox with Flash 9 support. Name another phone that can do this.

    The resistive touchscreen is a hug mistake, I agree :)
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    11/27/09

    @tnkgrl: ANY hardware keyboard withers in comparison to a good touch version.

    Front facing camera is useful for skype and stuff, but not useful on a phone. Talking to someone while holding the camera filming your face is not very easy.

    Maemo is fast, maybe even a little slick, but it is like a shiny yet EMPTY box. By that I mean, it has very little features in comparison to phones from better manufacturers.

    Yes, it technologically can support portrait, but WHY DIDNT THE MORONS AT NOKIA ENABLE IT!?!?

    Maemo is a gem... In the roughest of the rough. Windows Mobile is far superior. Running Maemo is like running a stripped out debian, and running windows mobile is like running FULL windows on your phone, complete with file explorer and right click.

    Firefox is worse than safari, the only advantage is flash.

    By the way, before I saw the flaws, I REALLY WANTED THIS PHONE, it was only after experiencing the drawbacks that I figured I will wait a revision or two.

    In conclusion:
    In a couple years, when Maemo has been outfitted with all modern features, and they put in a capacitive touch screen, I am sure this will be a wonderful phone to have. I am looking forward to the n91o or whatever they call the next version, which I prey will have capacitive :)
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    11/27/09

    @cruzer555: Sorry, but you lost all credibility when you mentioned "even windows mobile 6 is better [than Maemo]"...

    I'm done discussing this with you. I love my iPhone 3GS and my N900 and my Droid and my Pre, all for different reasons!

    The smarphone world is clearly getting divided into 2 camps: OS X, Android, WebOS and Maemo at the top, Symbian, BlackBerry OS and Windows Mobile at the bottom.

    If you can't see that, I don't have to convince you. Cheers :)
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    Image of cruzer555 cruzer555
    11/28/09

    @tnkgrl: You are wrong about the smartphone world. The ONLY good ones are Android and iPhone. Until they get their act together (which they probably won't) they are on the bottom with windows mobile.
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    Image of TheShredder TheShredder
    11/24/09

    In reply to The Best Smartphones on Every Carrier
    Ugh poor t-mobile. How are they still alive?
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    Image of pz pz
    11/24/09

    @TheShredder: All the people that signed on just to get the G1.

    Has to be. The service isn't actually that bad, if you're not living out in the middle of nowhere.
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    Image of veronykah veronykah
    11/24/09

    @pz: And all those of us using hacked iPhones. $60/month for an iphone and not having to use ATT? Not so bad in my book.
    Sure beats the Blackberry I was using before.
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    Image of OCEntertainment OCEntertainment
    11/24/09

    @TheShredder: Their plans are cheap. And provided you're not out in the sticks, coverage is actually pretty good.
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