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Sugar Slam!
05/20/09

In reply to Terminator Salvation Review: Better than T3 (But Not By Much)
I liked T3 thank you very much.
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Mark Wilson
05/20/09

@FoxHoundADAM: Banned.
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bonedog73
05/20/09

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I dont really want to see a review of something before I've seen it. Especially since the movie isnt even out yet. Sheesh..

I think this is a disservice to the Giz readers.

Should have posted this tomorrow at the earliest.
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Mark Wilson
05/20/09

@bonedog73: Here's an idea. The next time you don't want to read something...just don't read it.
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Voyou_Charmant
05/20/09

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But what if you watch it drunk?
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Rabid Penguin
05/19/09

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I'll see it anyway. I enjoyed Wolverine: Origins even though none of the critics did.
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Jesse Mrozowski
05/19/09

In reply to Terminator Salvation Review: Better than T3 (But Not By Much)
I hate, strike that HATE how people will review a movie by using "video game" as way to describe it as being horrible in some way. Maybe they mean it doesn't look good or the plot is non existent or whatever but either way I hate it because it's always meant as an insult towards video games too. As if there aren't any video games with complex, deep characters and plot out there.

Seriously play Grim Fandango, Psychonauts, Bioshock, or Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time. I'm not saying every game is full of complex characters, some are just about blowing crap up but to dismiss the entire medium as childish and nothing more than enough idiotic explosions strewn together to make Michael Bay happy is insulting.
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Mark Wilson
05/19/09

@Jesse Mrozowski: You are referring to a handful of exceptions to a rule, and you know it.
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RoboBagins
05/19/09

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Won't start a time travel discussion/rant. Won't. Won't. WON'T!
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bosskev
05/19/09

@Robotic Bilbo Bagins has no use for fleshy ones: Unfortunately, you already did. Tomorrow.
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Spike12
05/19/09

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The Terminator series should have ended with T2. The whole premise of T2 was that the future is what we make of it, it's not set. They completely did away with that idea for T3 and Salvation. I prefer to view anything after T2 as a sort of elaborate fan fiction.
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bosskev
05/19/09

@Spike12: And not just elaborate fan fiction, but bad elaborate fan fiction.

Or is that already understood?
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Kaiser-Machead
05/19/09

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Post Cameron Terminator is officially dead to me. T3 was a godawful waste of film. It's as though someone dropped a reel of film into a latrine, and then stuck it to a projector and said "Hey, watch this!"
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IphtashuFitz
05/19/09

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So are you saying that the best thing about this movie is the Christian Bale rant?
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bosskev
05/19/09

@IphtashuFitz: You would not be suggesting that when a studio knows the movie is shaping up as a clunker they'll do ANYTHING to generate publicity, even if it means "leaking" recordings that could have only come from an employee on the closed soundstage (and who just happened to have been already recording the activities)?
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bosskev
05/19/09

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MEMO

from the desk of

DAVID MORTIMER

Director, National Publicity, Warner Bros. Pictures

Urgent. To all department heads. Regarding our recently instituted "On-Set Visiting Bloggers Outreach Program", CANCEL. Immediately.

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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/19/09

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The only good thing about T3 was Claire Danes. Of course, one of the bad things was Claire Danes doing her "weepy face".
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Kaiser-Machead
05/19/09

@AtConsumeristPanel_GitEmSteveD...: You got that right.
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All_Thumbs
05/19/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Come on, you don't have a fantasy about making her make the weepy face?
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Kaiser-Machead
05/19/09

@All_Thumbs - R.O.A.C.H. Black Hat Haberdasher: I don't generally associate pleasure with a weepy face. If someone is making a weepy face during an amorous grapple, that sort of kills some libido points.
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badhatharry
05/19/09

@Kaiser-Machead: Really? No weepy face? Does that mean I'm doing it wrong?
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/19/09

@All_Thumbs - R.O.A.C.H. Black Hat Haberdasher: @badhatharry: Clair Danes is all directions of hot. However, in EVERY role where she cries, she gets the same distorted face. In Romeo and Juliet, Law and Order, Terminator, Brokedown Palace, etc... when she cries.
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
05/19/09

@AtConsumeristPanel_GitEmSteveD...: And if you want to know when she's in full "weepy face" mode, her chin tends to flatten out a little and crinkle. When that happens, she's in "the zone".
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Hello Mister Walrus
05/19/09

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I bet the stupid lighting technicians ruined it. Those people are FUCKING AMATEURS!
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bosskev
05/19/09

@Hello Mister Walrus: I'm just waiting for another "infamous Gizmodo commenter who shall not be named" to butt in with his most unfunny statements about how stupid we all are to say it was the "lighting technician" when in fact it was the DP.
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mat1cs (still a nerd)
05/19/09

@bosskev: did somebody say DP? :D
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Hello Mister Walrus
05/19/09

@mat1cs: I'll make you travel-sized.: Deep Purple? Digital Photography? Data Processing? The Democratic Party? Desktop Publishing? What are you talking about, damn it??
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Roger_Wilco
05/19/09

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that's pretty much how i felt about star trek.

good god...i think land of the lost may wind up being the best movie of the summer
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Kaiser-Machead
05/19/09

@Roger_Wilco: There is no curse, in Elvish, Entish or the tongues of man for this treachery.
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badhatharry
05/19/09

@Roger_Wilco: Don't forget about The Inglorious Basterds.
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olternaut
05/19/09

In reply to Terminator Salvation Review: Better than T3 (But Not By Much)
Why the hell didn't James Cameron finish what he started instead of having these lesser minds fiddle with and try to ruin his great vision?

James Cameron had said once he felt that T2 was the end of the story. It wasn't and he was wrong. The story needed to be continued to an end and JAMES CAMERON HIMSELF should have finished it.
I didn't even bother to see T3. A rerun of T2 with a bimbo for a terminator?

T4: Salvation looked interesting from the previews but I got worried after all that annoying shakespeare crap coming out of Christian Bale's mouth. The CGI looks cool but thats what is probably making it only slightly better than T3.
A shame really. A real real shame.
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Wilson Rothman
05/19/09

@olternaut: Cameron doesn't own the Terminator rights, is why. He lost them in a divorce—that's what I heard.
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badhatharry
05/19/09

@olternaut: Also, Cameron is not your jukebox. If he wants to spend the rest of his career making time-lapse films of cows, that's his right. He doesn't have to keep making sequels because you don't feel the story is finished. How much happier would most of us have been if Lucas took a page from his book?
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olternaut
05/19/09

@badhatharry:

Yes thats his right. He could stay underwater and keep making titanic movies from a sub or work on avatar for the next 20 years.
What I am saying is that he was wrong about the terminator story being finished and that he shoulda finished it himself.
But this is news to me that he lost the rights from a divorce? That is ridiculously sad and shouldn't have happened.
Cute point about Lucas. But Cameron isn't Lucas. Look at T3 and what seems to be T4. Tell me you wouldn't have wanted Cameron to do those films instead. Go ahead and try I dare you.
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Kaiser-Machead
05/19/09

@olternaut: I disagree completely. I felt that there was a great deal of closure by the end of the second film. Also, the entire post-apocalyptic battle was most intriguing when left as a passing nightmare that can still be avoided.

The Terminator franchise is suffering the same fate as Alien. Alien and Aliens were both excellent movies, but their success drew out shitty sequels, and eventually two horribly shitty crossover movies.

I'm still waiting for Terminator vs. Johnny 5.
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badhatharry
05/19/09

@olternaut: I was happy with the resolution of T2. I liked how it was hopeful, but uncertain. I thing a happy ending would have been out of place with the prevalent pessimism of the rest of the film. I would have been happy if T3 or T4 didn't exist at all.

And I think the whole story is he sold the rights to his then wife, Gale Anne Hurd for a dollar. Then they got divorced, as he is wont to do.
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Bob Lowes
05/19/09

@olternaut: Bollocks. If James Cameron felt the story wrapped up with T2, then who the hell are you to argue with him? That's like saying Orson Welles should have made Citizen Kane 2. Yeah, you could do it, but what's the point when there's no story left to tell?

Besides, the whole resolution of T2 would render the timeline that followed it - and looped round to form the events of the first movie - null and void, seeing as they destroy Skynet and the two T800 cpus which Cyberdyne based Skynet on. No Skynet, no future war. No future war, no time travel. No time travel, no John Conner, etc, etc.
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olternaut
05/19/09

@Bob Lowes:

I'm also responding to the other guy. How can you all tell me with a straight face that you think T2 wrapped up everything?
Isn't it obvious to all of you that the very very end of the entire teminator saga is in fact the moment the first terminator was sent back in time?
Remember what Kyle Reese said in T1? Skynet was done, his defense grid smashed (or something like that). It was then he (skynet) decided that the only way to win was to send Arhnold back in time. Watching John Connor personally take out that blasted skynet right before or after skynet sends the first T-800, T-1000 and then John sending Kyle and the 2nd T-800 back in time is what I thought the end of of the saga would be.
Thus completing the time loop.
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Sora57 is OK
05/19/09

@Wilson Rothman: I heard the same thing-- lost the rights to his wife, Linda Hamilton in their divorce. She, of course, played Sarah Connor.
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ZLevee
05/22/09

@olternaut: You're being ridiculous by suggestign there can ever be closure to a story involving time travel, which necessarily introduces an infinite number of paths.
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jibbly
05/19/09

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Your mention of the cameo...I can already guess who it is.
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Nintenboy01
05/19/09

@jibbly: I hear it's a CGI face though.
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ZLevee
05/22/09

@Nintenboy01: They wanted him to look like he did when he was young.
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