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    First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
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    Image of N@tedog N@tedog
    03/27/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    "The current design looks really busy at first glance, but that's probably because..." it IS really busy!
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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    is it so wrong to just want some toggle switches?
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    03/27/09

    @damnelantra™: Never. I'd like to drill holes in my dash and install a couple, even if they do nothing.
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    Image of Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing Charles_Barrett - Now with Variable-Valve Timing
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    But can they get it to talk like the Enterprise in Majel Barrett Roddenberry's voice...?
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    Image of drewdrawsLA drewdrawsLA
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    BTW, does anyone else keep getting logged out in Safari? Is my new avatar that bad?
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    Image of snakepliskin snakepliskin
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    That looks like too many buttons. Youd have to take your eyes off the road for a while just to scan for the right button.
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    Image of Davy Grolton Davy Grolton
    03/26/09

    @snakepliskin: exactly. and then you accidentally hit the wrong button? Sounds dangerous.


    I'm not sure if LCD screens should replace physical buttons in a car.

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    Image of snakepliskin snakepliskin
    03/26/09

    @Davy Grolton: Alot of luxury cars have more intuitive ways of doing things like the bmw circle thing. I personally think a gesture based car ui would work.
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    03/26/09

    @snakepliskin: You're talking about iDrive - it's sad that it's being positively compared to anything besides the Bubonic plauge (and even then...).
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    Image of .357 .357
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    I'm not really a big fan of touchscreens. They may be OK on phones and such, but when it comes to operating a car, they don't seem like the most driver friendly.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    Great thats all I need. I can see it now, Jo Schmo Jr (six years old), who steals everything, grabs my keys and runs off to play. As he is walking through the garage the door handle pops out. He scids to a stop and the cogs in his little head start turning. Now he can't help but get in dads car because now its open AND it has that really neato computer TV thing in the dash. So he jumps in and closes the door and as he is trying to figure out how to turn the monitor on the FRIGGIN CAR STARTS!


    I am going to call prison and reserve a room. For him or me, its too early to tell.

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    Image of Nick Nick
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    all i know is the passengers with me love to try to touch everyone button on the center console. darn drunks. i can just imagine someone just taking their whole hand and sliding it across this thing and driving me nuckin futs. and because of that i ain't gonna buy one. nothing to do with the fact i don't have $49000 lying around.
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    03/26/09

    @Nick: ps -- it looks amazing.
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    Image of Evil J, Prince of Half Truths and Lord of Low-Light Environments Evil J, Prince of Half Truths and Lord of Low-Light Environments
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    As much as I like the way Tesla's going (and I do), something kind of bothers me about the fact that you'll be diminishing your vehicle's range by running the radio, turning on the lights, etc.


    I'd like to see something like the current hybrids' braking systems used to capture some of the kinetic energy of the car to recharge it during normal driving.


    A plug-in that also can get some recharge of its electric battery from braking would be fantastic.

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    Image of A strolling player got drunk and A strolling player got drunk and
    03/26/09

    @Evil J: The GM EV1 had regenerative braking. I can't imagine this won't.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    I don't see a place to put my Slow Jamz mix tape. Yet another win for the Buick Reatta.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing: There is an option for a trunk-mounted 24 tape changer.
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    Image of A strolling player got drunk and A strolling player got drunk and
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing: Yeah, and where do I put all the MiniDisks full of Detroit techno I stole from that guy at that club ten years ago?
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    Image of Maymar Maymar
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing: And let us not forget that the Reatta was handbuilt by Detroit's finest craftsmen. I'm assuming this'll be hammered together by a bunch of Californian slackers between waves.
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    And, without the benefit of the normal ability to "find by touch" what conventional knobs/buttons/sliders provide--and being forced to take your eyes off the road while driving to do whatever--this will work safely because...? Please, someone answer this.
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    Image of drewdrawsLA drewdrawsLA
    03/26/09

    @bosskev: I'm thinking the same thing, but there are options. Besides haptic feedback, you could use tones or voices to indicate what's happening. It would be annoying as hell, but it would work.
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    03/26/09

    @DrewDraws a new avatar.: "Besides haptic feedback..."


    Well, yeah, if this was like Data's console from Star Trek: The Next Generation, it probably would have some kind of physical/haptic/force field feedback finger positioning system...but I kinda doubt this one does, and certainly not an effective one. Not good enough to prevent being forced to divert your eyes from the road repeatedly for several seconds at a time.


    "...tones or voices to indicate what's happening. It would be annoying as hell..."


    Yeah, it sure would be annoying as hell.


    Sometimes I don't think designers think about their creations in real-world usage. All they think of is the "ooh, ahh" factor...like this design.

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    Image of golferal - Now with no Segway! golferal - Now with no Segway!
    03/26/09

    @bosskev: Two word: Voice Activation
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    Image of bjarnia bjarnia
    03/26/09

    @golferal - has no need for a snarky screen name:

    Driver: Computer! Volume to 25 percent!

    Computer: Deflating tires!
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    03/26/09

    @bjarnia: Very nice! I was trying my best to come up with a funny based on voice activation, but you nailed it.
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    Image of drewdrawsLA drewdrawsLA
    03/26/09

    @bosskev: Yeah, um, *cough*.


    I'm a designer.

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    Image of tande04 tande04
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    Mmm... as pointed out in the last thread, buttons and knobs serve a purpose.


    Am I supposed to flick to change the temp on that? Isn't that going to be incredibly difficult in a moving car? Normally I could change temp, seat heat, etc. without looking. Seems like at the very least that would be more difficult without a tactile button knob, etc.

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    Image of ScottRose ScottRose
    03/26/09

    @tande04:


    Amen to that.. I've got a Jeep with touchscreen MP3 player and I'm always jabbing at the wrong track (it's a real bouncy car). I have to sorta rest my fingers on the dash and use my thumb to hit the screen.


    It's VERY annoying, but at least they didn't touchscreenify the volume and skip buttons like the Tesla otherwise I'd be downgrading.

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    Image of szrimaging szrimaging
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    RFID = easily stolen. It would be better if we had to insert a key fob, or other device into the dash. Just a little bit harder to steal. RFID to operate or unlock a car is too much of a security risk.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    03/26/09

    @szrimaging: According to the press release, the RFID is surgically implanted in your ass. Unless there's pootie shoplifting going on, you're safe.
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    Image of szrimaging szrimaging
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing: Umm...RFID = low strength radio. You walk up to someone with a device that can receive the signal, grab the signal and get the info you need. Then later walk up, use another device to broadcast and you just stole the car.


    There were security guys demenstrating this with the RFID chips used in the new passports.

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    03/26/09

    @szrimaging: wow you completely missed the funny of SirNotAppearing's comment. This place sucks. I'm sticking with the other Jalops across town.
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    Image of secretmanofagent secretmanofagent
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing:

    I dunno, it's the same place I usually keep my keys.
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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    03/26/09

    @secretmanofagent: It's how I smuggle phones in prison.
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    Image of .357 .357
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing: So I can't shoplift pootie in a Tesla? That defeats the entire purpose of buying this car.
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    Image of Jo Schmo Jo Schmo
    03/26/09

    @SirNotAppearing: Wow, tough crowd.
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    Image of mr_dude mr_dude
    03/26/09

    @Jo Schmo is auditioning for Threadjack, the movie: Seriously. Can't decide whether to declare a takeover or bail out. This place is eerie.
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    Image of MrBangBam MrBangBam
    03/26/09

    @mr_dude: That's a very easy question to solve!


    [www.southparkstudios.com]

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    Image of A strolling player got drunk and A strolling player got drunk and
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    Okay. I really like that. A lot.


    Way to have a little kid's junk on the top picture, though.

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    Image of jcrockerman jcrockerman
    03/26/09

    @A f*cking player: have you ever seen that album? It's not a baby's penis. It's his toes.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    03/26/09

    @A f*cking player: dork. respect the Nirvana.
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    Image of A strolling player got drunk and A strolling player got drunk and
    03/26/09

    @jcrockerman: Yes. I've owned Nevermind for 13 or 14 years.


    Take a tip from your car-loving friends: lighten up!

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    Image of A strolling player got drunk and A strolling player got drunk and
    03/26/09

    @jcrockerman: And it's his penis, anyway. Have you ever seen that album?
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    Image of aSoundofSleep-less nights aSoundofSleep-less nights
    03/26/09

    @A f*cking player:


    Yet another great reason why we can't cross-post, and why we can't have nice things. Don't worry, player, I got your back.

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    Image of SirNotAppearing SirNotAppearing
    03/26/09

    @aSoundofSleep: See my RFID joke below. Let's take our ball and go home.
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    Image of ScottRose ScottRose
    03/26/09

    @Nick:


    Yeah, pretty fraking cool that they chose Nirvana for the press shots.

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    Image of damnelantra™ damnelantra™
    03/26/09

    @aSoundofSleep: word!
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    Image of leavethegun-takethecannoli leavethegun-takethecannoli
    03/26/09

    @A f*cking player: All this for how much again? 50k?


    Yeah right.

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    Image of mlmorg mlmorg
    03/26/09

    In reply to First Look At The Tesla Model S Electric Car's Giant Touchscreen Dashboard
    cool idea but I think the UI is horrible...


    RFID detection is awesome -- but what if I wanted to just sit in the car without it turning on? haha

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    03/26/09

    @mlmorg: Then just turn it off.
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    Image of ludwigk ludwigk
    03/26/09

    @ripfire: What like there's an Off button, but no On? How, precisely do you turn it off? THrow the key fob out the window?


    Although, unlike an ICE, an electric engine hardly consumes power when idling.

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    Image of Ghede Ghede
    03/27/09

    @mlmorg: Arphids are not secure at all. With less than $250 in hardware you can copy them. Once cloned, they can steal your car with no effort.


    Push-button ignition anybody?


    Of course, the car remotes these days aren't much better. Hell, some manufacturers use a finite number of unique remotes and just hope nobody tries to brute-force the signal and drive off with your car.


    Really, most anti-theft devices amount to slowing crooks down. That, and the fact that most people don't steal cars.

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    Image of ripfire ripfire
    03/27/09

    @ludwigk: Click File>Exit
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