Could Apple theoretically use the serial codes from said iPhones and brick them in some way or another. Either that or have Foxconn take care of them. #iphoneheist
This begs the question... Why didn't GameStop do something about it? If the same guy kept coming in with a shit load of video games (disc only), how do you not know what's going on? #gameflytheft
@se7a7n7: I thought that too. But perhaps it just comes down to greed. Gamestop just repackages the discs into the genero clamshells and resells those babies... they're making some kind of profit off of it. If he was selling the discs at the Gamestop in Germantown, it doesn't surprise me, the place is uber-shady... #gameflytheft
@puhsitch: What you fail to realize here is that theft is punishable by jail time. Doesn't matter if it's a video game or a car.
Lets do the math here...
2200 video games times... ohhh I'd say 50 bucks (some are PS2 or older games and cant' say that everyone is 60 bucks plus I'm sure Gamefly gets some sort of discount but i digress...) is freaking 110 thousand dollars.
Borrowed from some law site I found: "Theft of property of a value over $25,000.00 is a Class 2 Felony for which a person can be sent to prison for a maximum of 12.5 years or put on probation and sent to the county jail for a maximum of one year. The maximum fine is $150,000.00. "
$110,000... That's actually a pretty hefty tab considering it's just video games.
I say lock him up. The fact that he was a postal worker makes it just that much worse. Who knows what other stuff this guy could of had his hands on. What if he got your social security number and made off with $110,000 of your money. I'm sure you'd want him to face a firing squad. #gameflytheft
@Balance_In_Life: No, I didn't fail to realize that theft is punishable by jail time. I do see degrees of severity, which (conceptually, at least) are defined by more than monetary value. So like, for instance, mugging elderly people for their insulin and oxygen tanks would be a bit higher on the scale than swiping video game rental discs.
And if some bastard got my SSN and stole $110,000, I'd much rather he be forced to pay me back with hefty interest. He is of no use to me dead! #gameflytheft
Sorry but the response. Shouldn't have come off so short. I do agree that there are worse people out there.
Clowns... those are worse people...
But just something about this guy being a postal worker bothers me. I understand that this is not the first theft at a post office but still, he should have the book thrown at him for just being as stupid as he was. The guy had to have known he would get caught. Lock this guy up... at least it's one less stupid person on the road. #gameflytheft
I am a little torn. I do agree that thieves are cowardly shits that should catch a beating for taking something that does not belong to them. On the other hand, videos like this (and any publicity related to) should motivate corporations, either through a sense of responsibility (yeah...right..I won't hold my breath) or public outcry, to take appropriate steps to ensure that hacks like this cannot overcome their tech.
But.......since a majority of ATM machines are made by Diebold (disclaimer: I have no proof to back that up) who are a corporation that cares not even one little bit about anything other than profit (FACT!), I have doubts that anything will happen to circumvent/deny/overcome these card skimmer hacks.
@10pound: Most hackers purposefully disseminate or publish hacks for that exact reason. Whether it's in regard to exploitable weaknesses in email system, or how to easily bypass deadbolt locks, the goal is usually to inform people that they are not as safe or secure as they believe themselves to be. The hope is that if companies won't correct the problems, that at least the affected individuals will realize the problem and take additional steps to remedy the situation.
Granted, there will be those who take the information and use it against those who haven't yet been made aware of the problem. The lag time there is a major issue. But, you can't withhold all information from the majority for the sake of it being misused by the minority.
In regards to your statement about Diebold; their concern is profit, and their profit is based on the security of their products. Banks won't invest in Diebold products if they are proven to be easily circumvented or compromised. Greed, like paranoia, is a fantastic motivator for the development of higher security. The bigger issue is that this is less Diebold's problem, but that of the bank, institution, or individual who owns the ATM. The security of my house isn't Medeco's responsibility. Even if I trust their product, it's my responsiblity (beyond manufacturer gross negligence or fraud), ultimately, to ensure that the product works and that I maintain awareness of it, and my property. Laxity is the first chink in the armor.
@met2art has an invisible star: It's one thing to disseminate the information. It's quite another to cash in on it, like these assholes do by trying to sell card skimmers to fraudsters.
@HeartBurnKid: Agent of R.O.A.C.H.: I agree, and I wasn't defending their actions, but just speaking in response to what @10pound had mentioned. These guys are obviously douchebags, and will no doubt be caught before long.
They have more videos on their youtube channel of finished products, and people commenting saying things like "wow this is cool how do i buy?" No question anyone who purchases, installs and collects money from one of these things should be sent to jail.
I've been keeping a lookout for these things at ATM's since your original article was posted several months ago. I haven't seen one yet but the two ATM's I use most frequently are the one at my main bank branch and the one in the police department at school... fairly safe and not overly susceptible to this kind of hack.... i hope.
@My Secret Identity: IIRC, I was attempting to set the time on my Media PC through VNC, and I kept getting a security error b/c my date was "not correct", even though it was. Stupid NTP servers.
Too bad his face was all blurry, it's going to be tough to identify him. And that map link doesn't work. I will say that the username seems fitting for a guy who looks like that, though.
11/17/09
[gizmodo.com] #iphoneheist
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-Belgian Board of Tourism #iphoneheist
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(Which, ironically, means "fun" in Dutch.) #iphoneheist
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[gizmodo.com] #gameflytheft
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no. that doesn't make any sense. he should have significantly more than that. #gameflytheft
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I mean...video games. We need to keep space in the prisons for criminals who are actual risks to society. #gameflytheft
10/17/09
Lets do the math here...
2200 video games times... ohhh I'd say 50 bucks (some are PS2 or older games and cant' say that everyone is 60 bucks plus I'm sure Gamefly gets some sort of discount but i digress...) is freaking 110 thousand dollars.
Borrowed from some law site I found: "Theft of property of a value over $25,000.00 is a Class 2 Felony for which a person can be sent to prison for a maximum of 12.5 years or put on probation and sent to the county jail for a maximum of one year. The maximum fine is $150,000.00. "
$110,000... That's actually a pretty hefty tab considering it's just video games.
I say lock him up. The fact that he was a postal worker makes it just that much worse. Who knows what other stuff this guy could of had his hands on. What if he got your social security number and made off with $110,000 of your money. I'm sure you'd want him to face a firing squad. #gameflytheft
10/17/09
And if some bastard got my SSN and stole $110,000, I'd much rather he be forced to pay me back with hefty interest. He is of no use to me dead! #gameflytheft
10/17/09
Sorry but the response. Shouldn't have come off so short. I do agree that there are worse people out there.
Clowns... those are worse people...
But just something about this guy being a postal worker bothers me. I understand that this is not the first theft at a post office but still, he should have the book thrown at him for just being as stupid as he was. The guy had to have known he would get caught. Lock this guy up... at least it's one less stupid person on the road. #gameflytheft
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But.......since a majority of ATM machines are made by Diebold (disclaimer: I have no proof to back that up) who are a corporation that cares not even one little bit about anything other than profit (FACT!), I have doubts that anything will happen to circumvent/deny/overcome these card skimmer hacks.
my 2 cents.
09/19/09
Granted, there will be those who take the information and use it against those who haven't yet been made aware of the problem. The lag time there is a major issue. But, you can't withhold all information from the majority for the sake of it being misused by the minority.
In regards to your statement about Diebold; their concern is profit, and their profit is based on the security of their products. Banks won't invest in Diebold products if they are proven to be easily circumvented or compromised. Greed, like paranoia, is a fantastic motivator for the development of higher security. The bigger issue is that this is less Diebold's problem, but that of the bank, institution, or individual who owns the ATM. The security of my house isn't Medeco's responsibility. Even if I trust their product, it's my responsiblity (beyond manufacturer gross negligence or fraud), ultimately, to ensure that the product works and that I maintain awareness of it, and my property. Laxity is the first chink in the armor.
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I've been keeping a lookout for these things at ATM's since your original article was posted several months ago. I haven't seen one yet but the two ATM's I use most frequently are the one at my main bank branch and the one in the police department at school... fairly safe and not overly susceptible to this kind of hack.... i hope.
08/06/09
I know one thing. I would hate for my computer to send out a picture of some strange guy working at my computer.
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