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almeister112
04/23/09

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I love the issue of internet piracy, since it's delightfully gray in many respects. That said, I think the Pirate Bay guys, lovable though they are, were guilty as hell. Their stance on freedom of access to content, while a fun point to argue, doesn't change the fact that they at least contributed to the illegal downloading of files.

Now, that said, I think this revelation (if true) is clearly black and white: as much as TPB loves to flip off the law, they deserve a fair trial. A judge working for copyright lobbies definitely doesn't facilitate that.
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aec007
04/23/09

@almeister112: Remember NOT to kill the messenger.
TPB is guilty as much as a gun manufacturer is guilty for killing people.
If TPB was used to torrent (exchange) free programs, DRM-free music and videos, there would be no trial in the first place.

If instead of the internet, you were to "exchange" pirated movies through a phone line with a modem (slow albeit possible), are you going to sue the phone company? or the Modem manufacturer? or the PC maker?.

Remember, Do NOT kill the messenger.

As far as the trial, this new development shows it was a setup and bias. I hope the Swedish people can put up with it. They are the ones that are going to get stuck with the trial bill and final costs. Nothing is Free.
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Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
04/23/09

@aec007: Actually I hate metaphors like that. In this case the software manufacturers are like the gun manufacturers.

TPB is more like the company that says, "Talk to these people about making arms deals for your revolution."

Their behavior isn't technically illegal, but it is highly distasteful and more than a little unethical.
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xThadd
04/23/09

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This is all irrelevant - what happens to Pirate Bay tells us nothing about the future, because this is just copyright law in its death throes. Convicting or not convicting them won't make any difference to whether or not people are prepared to pay for content. Increasingly they aren't.
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dc-united
04/23/09

@xThadd: Well, if people aren't willing to pay for content, there won't be any content. Well, there will be enough free stuff to get people to go to concerts or to buy merchandise. Without copyright laws, you take away most of the incentive to produce and market content.
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Zencyde
04/23/09

@dc-united: Oh my God. This causes people to consider actually working! Bands will now have to do concerts to make money rather than record it and forget it. Stop the inhumanity and let the artists be lazy!
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Halfwit
04/23/09

@Zencyde: Yeah... The Beatles and Steely Dan sure just sat on their asses all day. Let's not forget Brian Wilson... dude was road warrior!

If you're going to make an argument, at least be logical about it.
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Gann
04/23/09

@Halfwit: Those examples are not examples of artists born and bred in our current entertainment industry, and are therefore not relevant in this context.

If you're going to make a counterpoint, at least be logical about it.
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Lou Rivellini
04/23/09

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RABBLE!!!!!!!!!!!
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BeefSupreme
04/23/09

@Lou Rivellini: RABBLE RABBLE!!!
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
04/23/09

@ɹǝpılloɔɹǝdns is becoming BeefSupreme: @ospreyguy: Calm down everyone. i will look into the call of Shenanigans. Just go get your brooms, in case.

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mangochutney
04/23/09

@When'sUranusDay?_GitEmSteveDave: I LOLed.
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GitEmSteveDave_DefinesTurgid
04/23/09

@mangochutney: It's the official "S-word" clip, and MUST be invoked whenever the word shows up. Usually I do it. There's a really detailed one I made once, but I forget where it is.
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