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    Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay

    Verizon to AT&T: "The Truth Hurts (Bitch!)"

    AT&T Adds New Verizon Ads to Its Map Lawsuit

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    Image of Kimrod Kimrod
    11/19/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    I just recently left employment with AT&T.

    I can tell you they are a rat-f**k company to work for. They will use/employ any/every dirty trick in the book to gain market share or customers, stealing away customers. Who doesn't in a free market economy?

    For AT&T to cry foul over these commercials is silly at best, laughable, after the crap I've seen them pull behind the scenes.

    Oh, the stories I could tell.
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    Image of Mikestan Mikestan
    11/19/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    Verizon- 2
    AT&T- 0
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    Image of apeguero apeguero
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    If only AT&T spent the legal moneys it's wasting on this argument and actually put up more towers.
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    11/19/09

    @apeguero: Well said. They really need to get their shit together.
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    And now ladies and gentlemen...

    AT&Ts response... WEAK.
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    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™:
    <actually liked it
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    Image of shiben589 shiben589
    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: oh...oh no. AT&T's been riding its iPhone fueled fantasy train for too long, and its starting to stutter. Come on AT&T, Verizon's giving the iPhone the most major competition its had in a while and your response is THIS?

    (btw, the letter V is cool.)
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    Image of genkainashi genkainashi
    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: Ahahaha, thats hilarious. Yet they're so vague. Nation's fastest 3g network... hmm yeah my ass. When you can access it maybe. Otherwise it's slower than most.
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    Image of seanpat12 seanpat12
    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: haha i was just about to post that video too.

    its soo utterly terrible, and Luke should be ashamed of himself to star in that ad
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    Image of Jonesy555 Jonesy555
    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: Wait a minute....talk and surf at the same time? I could have sworn I did this on my Droid the first day that I got it? So shouldn't he check both of them?
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    Image of Elliuotatar Elliuotatar
    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: Fastest 3G network by what measure? And how much faster? Verizon's map gives us clear data. This commercial tells us nothing.

    Also, yeah AT&T you have the most popular smart phone. But you also charge so much for the service that I went to great lengths to hack the phone and switch to T-Mobile. What does that say about your service?
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    11/18/09

    @Elliuotatar: Yeah, if you notice AT&T stays away from naming Verizon directly and they use the vague term "better 3G experience". No maps, no figures, no illustrations. Maybe they'll really take a swing when they regroup!

    @Jonesy555: Yeah, I think you can only access the web and talk simultaneously when you're on WiFi with the Droid. So I don't think the second "fact" is entirely true. that's the case on my Droid atleast.
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    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: Yes. I came here right after I saw this.

    I'm going to keep a bag of popcorn near the TV just for the Verizon response commercial.
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    Image of blash blash
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    "most people who are watching TV are semi-catatonic"

    1) Is the judge an expert on this?
    2) Does that give content producers the right to lie/libel/slander? What about present lewd material contrary to FCC regulations? Will people let it go because they are "semi-catatonic"?

    Even if the maps are not misleading (doubtful), that quote is inexcusable and looks like evidence of judicial misconduct at least in the context presented.

    Don't get me wrong, I think AT&T needs to get off their asses and get competitive with Verizon, but that's bullshit.
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    Image of Bs Baldwin Bs Baldwin
    11/19/09

    @blash: so you don't like the language the judge used by you still agree with the statement he makes with it.

    The maps are not misleading because they are properly labeled and from at&t. the maps data wasn't made up by verizon neither did they say the maps were at&t's voice coverage.

    Also, judicial misconduct in this case would involve taking a bribe.
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    blash promoted this comment Bs Baldwin was starred Bs Baldwin was unstarred
    Image of blash blash
    11/19/09

    @Bs Baldwin: My point being that judges are supposed to be impartial. There's a difference between quoting someone and laying your own pre-conceptions on the subject matter into the ruling. Saying that there's no need to verify the claims of a television commercial since TV watchers are semi-catatonic is akin to saying there's no need to listen to date rape drug victims because they were unconscious when it happened and they didn't live through (and have to remember) the horror. If an expert was brought forth to testify to that effect and the judge was merely quoting the witness, that's an entirely different matter.

    And can someone link me to an ATT 3G coverage map from ATT's site that looks like that? Because I couldn't find one. The "Data" map is much more extensive but that's probably just EDGE service, and looking at the Mobile TV map there's some stuff missing from the one in the commercial.
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    Image of Bs Baldwin Bs Baldwin
    11/19/09

    @blash:
    no it would be the same as trying to make a decision for the pepsi challenge commercials. judge don't make jokes in real trials and their opinions are only in disgust because lawyers can try to get convictions overturned.

    [cache.gizmodo.com]

    the blue is 3g

    this is a high res of that map

    [www.xti9.com]

    #tips
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    Image of antpwny antpwny
    11/19/09

    @blash: Your whole point is invalid by comparing the semi-catatonic state to date rape.
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    11/19/09

    @antpwny: What, is date rape a corollary of Godwin's Law now? Why would you think it invalidates my point?
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    Image of madog madog
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    Whoa, whoa, whoa, Ms. Golijan! The part in the story I don't like is that AT&T gave up after an hour. They didn't put posters up or anything, they just sat on the porch like goons and waited. That company's gotta think: 'You got a phone. You got a responsibility.' If your phone gets schooled, you don't bitch and file suit then call it quits; you get your ass out there and you fight that fuckin' Verizon!
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    Batten, you insensitive jerk. I'll have you know that I am fully-catatonic when watching television!
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    Image of brkmrtn002 brkmrtn002
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    Is that a sailboat?
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    Image of met2art met2art
    11/18/09

    @brkmrtn002: No, it's a schooner.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    Sounds like AT&T was wishing for the 52'' flatscreen LCD TV with surround sound, a PS3, XBox 360, and home media center and instead were given a dead zone.
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    I see no problem with the ATT maps. who needs 3G in montana? come on LA NY, all the "major" cities are covered and the speeds there are faster.
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    Image of MarcusMaximus MarcusMaximus
    11/18/09

    @oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...: Listing NY when talking about great AT&T service is a bit... ridiculous.
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    Image of theoldwolf theoldwolf
    11/18/09

    @MarcusMaximus: And LA too, let me tell you from bitter, bitter experience.
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    Image of waclark57 waclark57
    11/18/09

    @theoldwolf: Isn't this the million dollar question? More coverage does not necessarily translate into better coverage. How well does that Verizon coverage work in the middle of Montana?

    Not that ATT has much to brag about when it comes to 3G service but I also hear complaints about Verizon too so there doesn't seem to be a clear winner.
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    Image of theoldwolf theoldwolf
    11/18/09

    @waclark57: I didn't say there was. I merely stated that the AT&T coverage I have experienced in the Los Angeles area is monumentally crap. I have no experience with any other carrier in the area, so I can't and won't comment on them.
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    blash promoted this comment theoldwolf was starred theoldwolf was unstarred
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    11/18/09

    @theoldwolf: @oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...: No problems in LA either. Coverage is fantastic at USC, in the Valley, in Westwood, Redondo Beach... I've had some dropped calls while speeding (ahem, relative term) along Wilshire Blvd. among the skyscrapers and there's no service down in the Metro, but come on that's pretty typical.
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    Image of theoldwolf theoldwolf
    11/18/09

    @blash: Glad it works somewhere, mate. I'm on USC's Health Sciences Campus most of the time and coverage is okay there, but at home in Glendale service is terrible.

    #tips
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    Image of DustyButt™ DustyButt™
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    So does this mean that there's going to be an ad stating that a judge agrees with Verizon's claims?

    If so... wow.
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    Image of Rorouni Rorouni
    11/18/09

    @DustyButt™: Why can all the verizon commercials continue? Because there is a judge for that...
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    Followed by an ad featuring AT&T staff bludgeoning the shit out of people with iPhones, while people in the Verizon store are fed grapes and fanned with giant feathers while they text on their Motorola Droids.
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/18/09

    @Kaiser-Machead: Verizon's next ad is going to feature a dog (representing Verizon) and a leg (representing AT&T). You can figure out the rest...
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    Image of HeroOfTomorrow HeroOfTomorrow
    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    "Most people who are watching TV are semi-catatonic."

    DCJ Timothy Batten Sr is my idol. Forever.
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    Image of Nathan Obbards Nathan Obbards
    11/18/09

    @HeroOfTomorrow: Then you would love Baudrillard.

    ''Television knows no night. It is perpetual day. TV embodies our fear of the dark, of night, of the other side of things."
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    Image of HeroOfTomorrow HeroOfTomorrow
    11/18/09

    @Nathan Obbards: Yeah, I'm familiar with him :)
    There's a Dutch writer that has some great social commentary on television as well, Gerrit Komrij. No idea if any of that has ever been translated.

    #tips
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    11/18/09

    In reply to Judge Tells AT&T to Stop Whining as the Verizon Ads Will Stay
    No woman, no cry.
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    Image of Demonbird Demonbird
    11/17/09

    In reply to Verizon to AT&T: "The Truth Hurts (Bitch!)"
    If only they could eat eachother. I have a Nokia itnrigue with evrsion and I am on my third model due to a persisten software glitch that renders the phone inoperable when verizon sends certain automated messages to it, and the problem will go from model to model.
    They refuse to evena cknowledge that the error is real when I walk up and show them mine, and cases of many other people. Been going on for over 2 months. #verizonatt
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