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madog
03/26/09

In reply to The iPhone 3.0 OS Is Not Ready For Everyday Use; Here's How to Downgrade
I can't believe Apple would release this private beta. It's slow, it crashes, I mean, they are, like, a huge company, or something, and they should, like, have stuff READY by now? Like, you know, when stuff comes out for the first time, it should, like, work with, ummmm, work like normal stuff does.

It's just like totally unacceptamable for industries to keep.... placating us like this. Like we shouldn't take it anymore and junk. We should, you know, stop buying their junk and stuff cause they should totally be ready.
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Matt English
03/26/09

@madog: are you crazy? A) This is private (aka not ready for prime-time) for a reason aka, not up to snuff. B) it is mainly supossed to be used by developers who are using the new API's for their applications, not for people who wanted to "try it out through bittorrent". C) "Like we shouldn't take it anymore and junk. We should, you know, stop buying their junk and stuff cause they should totally be ready." IT WAS PRIVATE, if you actually followed the terms of service, you shouldnt have had access in the first place. THERE WAS A REASON IT WAS PAY-FOR-ONLY. and believe me, all the dev's who paid the $99 for it are plenty happy to have access to the API's so they can write their apps (i for sure am)
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madog
03/26/09

@Matt English: I thought I was laying the sarcasm on pretty thick there. Otherwise I really hope you don't think I talk like that.

I was attempting to make fun of all the other jackasses who sincerely think as such in regards to this beta.

But I guess I failed in that. Thank's MATT!
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madog
03/26/09

@madog: In one sense it's funny to me that I got you worked up over that, but on the other hand I feel bad too. =)
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Monty
03/26/09

In reply to The iPhone 3.0 OS Is Not Ready For Everyday Use; Here's How to Downgrade
Apple: It just works. Except in beta when it is a gigantic frigging mess, just like every other company.

That said, people are downgrading from the production release of Vista to XP, so the Apple-hate really only goes so far. (Ignoring that Mobile Me stuff, of course.) Still, thanks Apple for making Redmond feel a little better about itself.
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Kaiser-Machead
03/26/09

@Monty: Well, I don't think Redmond would feel that much better until people are rolling back in large numbers on a final release product sold in stores.
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badhatharry
03/26/09

@Monty: Also, Vista was a final product. For sale. And shipped on plenty of computers. 3.0 is in beta, and on lockdown theoretically only to developers. When Apple releases something that is as reviled as Vista, then you'll have a parallel. (Hint: the answer is MobileMe, but only in the summer of 08. It's fine now, but I suspect Vista will always be hated.)
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KefkaticFanatic
03/26/09

In reply to The iPhone 3.0 OS Is Not Ready For Everyday Use; Here's How to Downgrade
Not that I'm saying anything about the actual everything else with the OS, but I find it funny that there's only like 3 steps for Windows yet 10 for the Mac.
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badhatharry
03/26/09

@KefkaticFanatic: When you install 3.0, you have to register the device as a developmental tool When restoring it, you are changing it back to a regular old phone. That's why the 10 steps. You're not just reformatting a drive.
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Kyonko
03/26/09

In reply to The iPhone 3.0 OS Is Not Ready For Everyday Use; Here's How to Downgrade
Yet another blow to apple. I can't say I'm surprised, though, as I've seen many unworkable betas... IE springs to mind.

But to think iPhone OS 3.0 sucks this much? Apple should've spent more time polishing it up (at least somewhere close to the quality we saw in Win7 beta) before releasing it.
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frigg
03/26/09

@Kyonko doesn't know why the profile picture isn't showing u...: Not only that, I've noticed that some of Apple's recent patent applications, when I attempt to implement them in blocks of cheese, don't work as described. WTF Apple?!
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Dafrety
03/26/09

@Kyonko doesn't know why the profile picture isn't showing u...: Dude, I may not be able to stand what Apple, but it's beta software. Chances are it just might not work properly. Not everything is as smooth as the Win7 Beta.
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Kyonko
03/26/09

@Dafrety: Dude, read my comment again. Apple has what it takes to make this at least a bearable beta to use like Win7. They didn't.
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KBeat
03/26/09

@Dafrety: Don't feed the trolls! Unless you've got a really funny reply like Frigg. :)

Anyone who would describe a private, developer only beta that has bugs as a major blow to a company (Apple, Microsoft, or whoever) is clearly trolling for flames.
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Linux chief hardware engineer
03/26/09

@Kyonko doesn't know why the profile picture isn't showing u...:

Maybe you didnt get the memo.. its for developers.

Its not apple's fault that the average consumer installed it.

@Dafrety:

"Not everything is as smooth as the Win7 Beta."

huh? win7 was crashier than vista
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bosskev
03/26/09

@KBeat: + 1/2

(I'd have given you a full +1, but I took off a half 'cuz Kyonko did kinda sorta partially redeem himself with a pleasant reply to frigg.)
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Kyonko
03/26/09

@Shirkk: God dang it people READ! Thanks for making my life a little more miserable.

You know what, I won't even bother defending myself. Flame me if you want, but please read and control your fanboy-ism before you reply. Thank you.
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bosskev
03/26/09

@KBeat, @Kyonko doesn't know why the profile picture isn't showing u...: Hey, KBeat? I'm giving you your other half point back, restoring it to a full +1.
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madog
03/26/09

@Kyonko doesn't know why the profile picture isn't showing u...:

I just sent my letter in to my Attorney General stating Apple's lack of acceptable Beta software to the community. It always takes them months to fix, shit's always crashing. I mean, it's just totally unacceptable, man. Yeah.

"Don't flame me, bro! Nooo!"
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Software_Goddess
03/26/09

In reply to The iPhone 3.0 OS Is Not Ready For Everyday Use; Here's How to Downgrade
And this will take us back in time? Wonderful there is so much I would do differently.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/26/09

@Software_Goddess: We're only going back to last week though..
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badhatharry
03/26/09

@Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®: I would play the lotto.
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bosskev
03/26/09

@badhatharry: I would go back and not post the comment I did yesterday in which I confused BLam for Lisa.
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Software_Goddess
03/26/09

@Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®: Just one week? Darn, I didn't do anything regrettable last week. Maybe I would find something regrettable to do before I go back. *Wink*
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bosskev
03/26/09

@Software_Goddess: Yowza! Did somebody just turn up the heat in here???

* opens a window to release the steam *
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/26/09

@bosskev: "I would go back and not post the comment I did yesterday in which I confused BLam for Lisa."

And I would call shotgun in the Delorean for that trip..
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/26/09

@badhatharry: "I would play the lotto."

Just one?
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/26/09

@Software_Goddess: "Just one week? Darn, I didn't do anything regrettable last week. Maybe I would find something regrettable to do before I go back. *Wink*"

Well if you already know you're going to regret it before hand then you won't need a time machine...
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bosskev
03/21/09

In reply to Our iPhone 3.0 How-To Coverage, All in One Place
Yeah, I get that the illustration is an iPhone wearing a hard hat...but it sure looks a lot like something a bit more, well, NSFW to me.

All I'm sayin' is I sure wouldn't touch that iPhone, don't know where it's been.
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bosskev
03/21/09

In reply to Our iPhone 3.0 How-To Coverage, All in One Place
yawn!
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Michael Lieu
03/21/09

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scnd!
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bosskev
03/21/09

@Michael Lieu: Overheard at a recent support group:

MICHAEL

"Hi. My name is Michael."

GROUP

"Hi, Michael."

MICHAEL

"And I am...a Facebooker."

GROUP

"No shit, Michael. Tell us something not obvious."
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USB_Humping_Dog
03/21/09

@Michael Lieu: That wasn't even slightly funny. Hey, your toe is past the banhammer demarcation line!
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Acheron's Grief
03/21/09

@bosskev: Goddamit! those facebookers again! if they went trough the approval proccess like zweihander or Warparty84 this shit wouldn't happen...

oh wait...
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bosskev
03/21/09

@USB_Humping_Dog: "That wasn't even slightly funny."

No. But it was rather Dell-like.
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bosskev
03/21/09

@Acheron's Grief: "Goddamit! those facebookers again! if they went trough the approval proccess... oh wait..."

I am likewise facing a similar-yet-opposite philosophical conflict here.

On the one hand, I obviously am on record as being in support of Facebookers not being allowed to bypass the existing approval process that everyone else is subjected to. On the other hand, if I were to actually get my way, I'd be losing half of my best material.
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soggy_cheerio
03/21/09

@bosskev:
On the other hand, if I were to actually get my way, I'd be losing half of my best material.

Not really a tough call in my opinion.
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bosskev
03/21/09

@soggy_cheerio: " ... my best material. ... Not really a tough call in my opinion."

Exactly! What with all these Facebookers flooding the comments

wait

Did you just zing me? Did you just zing me? Well, I never...!

* retreats indignantly *
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liuping
03/19/09

In reply to How To: Fake the iPhone 3.0 OS On Your iPhone Today
So I can install all these "kind of buggy" hacks (if I jailbreak my phone), or get them, fully supported and integrated, for free with the official release?

I think I'll just wait until June, which is probably what most people will do...
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jarhead
03/19/09

@liuping: Not sure where it says all these "kind of buggy" hacks but to each his own. I can tell you that PdaNet is 100% perfection.
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Monty
03/19/09

In reply to How To: Fake the iPhone 3.0 OS On Your iPhone Today
Was the real purpose of the App Store to have developers design cool applications, and then Apple steal all of the great ideas and call it the next version of their OS? If so, a tip of my hat to Apple for finding a way to make money from other people developing neat applications for their toys. I doubt the programmers of these applications will mind that their hard work has become a core operating system feature now.
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lpranal
03/19/09

In reply to How To: Fake the iPhone 3.0 OS On Your iPhone Today
how 'bout that stereo bluetooth (A2DP)? anything out there for that?
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John Mahoney
03/19/09

@lpranal: Sadly, not yet.
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HoseHead
03/19/09

In reply to How to Enable 3G Tethering in Your iPhone 3.0 Now
Can somebody 'splain me how tethering can be dictated by the cell phone provider? i mean IP traffic is IP traffic. If i'm using safari on my macbook or safari on my iPhone, what's the difference??? same goes for email and any other apps that use a network connection.

is the provider going to check your packets to see what client you're using?

i can take the SIM out of my iPhone and put it in a nokia phone and tether my laptop. so what's the big deal???
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Epoch
03/19/09

@HoseHead: that's why i thought we were warned against tethering in the first place. at&t would see that you're using FAR too much data, and nuke you or something. maybe i'm just missing something, but what makes it different now?

in the article, it says at&t won't let you tether at all, so... what's it supposed to work on, t-mobile?

btw, why won't my icon change? i uploaded a new one yesterday :(
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Vivara
03/19/09

In reply to iPhone 3G Tethering Now Working for Someone, Somewhere
Wow! So they weren't lying when they said they they had developed it.

If I was to purchase the iPhone Developer Program for $99, will I be able to put the beta of 3.0 onto my phone?

Also, I'm assuming that there's no problems with applications that work on 2.2 working with 3.0? The AppStore and the likes work well? Everything syncs over?

Thanks,

Ed.
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nutbastard
03/19/09

@Vivara:

"Also, I'm assuming that there's no problems with applications that work on 2.2 working with 3.0?"

It's a beta. Your assumption is precarious, there's supposed to be bugs in it.
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/19/09

In reply to iPhone 3G Tethering Now Working for Someone, Somewhere
*cough* can already tether *cough* with his N95 *cough* running Symbian *cough* even though it's *cough* not one of the top 5 smartphone platforms.. *COUGH*
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nutbastard
03/19/09

@Jrsy Devil's Food Cake®:

*cough* good for you *cough* how bout that n95 app store *cough* awesome right? *cough* *cough*
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Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
03/19/09

@nutbastard (Everyone come to snowmodo!!!): *cough* you mean download!? *cough* it may not have any fart apps *cough* but it's got plenty of other useful stuff. *cough*
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blachole
03/19/09

In reply to iPhone 3G Tethering Now Working for Someone, Somewhere
If he was a true "hacker" he'd start fresh and redo it until he figured out what he changed in the file to make it work..frickn n00b.
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nutbastard
03/19/09

@blachole:

...or he'd not do that because he has to go to work and play ball with junior... free time ain't free, ya know.
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