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Oh, and (assuming you're faithful) if you catch a significant other rifling through your data like this early in the relationship, understand that eventually they're going to leave you for your "infidelity" whether or not you stray.
One thing left out if "lifetime" timers/counters on cell phones. Many phones have absolute counters which are started as soon as a phone is turned on, and can never be reset. It's how I caught my Ex. She got "smart" and deleted her texts and calls to him, but the absolute timer showed differences in her call history, i.e. she left for work, and called me on her break, then said she came striaght home, but she had 30 minutes of calls on her phone. Her call history had been wiped, except for the call to me, and we only talked 5 minutes. Her data counter showed an large amount of data(i.e. texts) being transferred, but nothing to correspond in her message history(this was a "dumb" phone, and didn't have web browsing).
Why did I check these? Because I did trust her, and I had never done this before until one day she was acting weird, and I had a gut feeling something was up.
@GitEmSteveDave_IsNotLarryGaga: I always think about it as: You love them and know them so well that when their behavior suddenly deviates so much from the norm with no real good explanation, you empower yourself to find out the truth.
Versus say, you're just jealous and insecure. Which is a completely different feeling altogether.
@Lite: hates Illinois Nazis: Oh I was insecure. The Ex was way hotter than me. But yeah, we were at a wedding, and I went to use the bathroom, and she was in the bathroom area on the phone and said it was her brother. For some reason I didn't buy it, so I checked her phone that night while it was charging, and wouldn't you know it...
See, my life is an open book, check all my emails, my computer, my cell phone, hell, check my webcams when you're not around. I'm so OCD, I wouldn't delete an email even if I was cheating, because I don't delete things!
Whatever happened to old fashion clues, like panties whose brand you're sure you didn't buy, strands of hair on your shirts that are obviously not yours, and that person that always breaks out into a run when you drive up to the house?
As a person who went through a divorce because his wife was nailing other dudes, your best bet is gaining access to their email accounts, and cellphone.... Not advice I like being able to give, but advice I can give nonetheless.
@djdare:
Though not a spouse, my big clue was quick window shrinking, which was obvious to me by the reflection in the window.
Next was a casual gander at the history, which reveled an online database of porn, and a goody of an email that went something like "I really enjoyed keeping you company in bed"... well, that's not what it said, but you get the drift.
@djdare: Yep. With divorce you might actually need proof. Here in the US, laws very by states. Some states require you to present grounds for divorce. In a no-fault-divorce state, you don't have to but it can make a little difference in your settlement if you end up going to court.
Sorry about that, though. I've been divorced and it sucks enough without infidelity.
@FigNinja: Yah, I don't wanna talk about my divorce process. It was painful and long, I have a son....
And yah, plural. 8 guys in the 18 months we were married including one of my former best friends, she was pregnant for 9 of those 18 months too. And I found out later she was completely unsure who the father was... the only reason I know I'm his father now is because I got to buy a super classy rite aid at-home paternity test.
@Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: just stop to consider: if you're gone far enough to check e-mail, stop what you're doing and get out. Mistrust is all the cue you are going to need.
@yogibimbi: Actually, the mistrust may very well just be your personal insecurities, and perhaps you should seek counseling for that from someone who isn't a bartender.
@Shamoononon: I shave my legs.: Maybe you shouldn't be so prudish about guys looking at porn though? Not trying to flamebait...but females do that for the purpose of being controlling, and it goes against human instinct.
@ccoady: He did a great job of keeping his life private, but he dropped the ball.
Ruined? Hardly. Sure, he lost his sponsors and endorsements but even if him and his wife split, he'll still have more money than he could ever spend in his or our lifetimes.
The part that most disturbs me is "present for there birthday". Their. THEIR. Sorry, but I had to get that off my chest. At least my hot texts are spelled right. She should just stick with OOOOooo, mmmmmm, yeahhhhhh and Oh Baby!
Atta boy Tiger. I still support you. I don't even care if you cheated on your wife. Hell you can do it again. Then after your done go caddy for Obama again.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha, I have never laughed so hard in my life. This is one of the BEST reminders that humans are human no matter who they are. This sounds like every drunken lust induced text that I have ever sent. Haha.
Rosa, that's disgusting... you really should get this post down, seriously.
I have no problems with the jokes and stuff here on Gizmodo, but this is tabloid level. Do you guys really want to go there?
@ElroyStubbern: Makes me sad. I mean, I know I have no say in what they do or don't post - but I'd feel less bad if Giz started posting pornography or publicity-only posts than publishing personal messages from someone's cellphone, no matter who it was.
I mean, think of how anyone - Giz reader, Giz writters - would feel not only having their personal stuff posted on the Internet, but also being mocked for them.
I know this isn't professional journalism nor I expect it to be, but I though there were some ethical guideliness... apparently I was wrong.
@Bokusatsu_Tenshi: What do you mean? Rosa whines about her personal stuff in public all the time! And anyway, be aware that all these lurid essemmesses and more appeared in the New York Post. There's hardly such a thing as "professional journalism" to be found out there. I know what you mean, though. I never want to be publicly recognizable, because once you're in the spotlight, your clothes all fall off, and everybody has front-row tickets and spyglasses. And also you're covered in baby oil.
@ElroyStubbern: Indeed.
Maybe I was delusional or something, and I know those are hard choices (to publish or not)... but somehow I thought Gizmodo was the type of blog I was not going to find this sort of stuff.
I'm still a Giz fan and all, but the fact that publishing a guy's private messages disgusts me won't change.
You know, one thing is to go ahead and talk about your private life by your own will... but it's a totally different thing to have your private life out there without consent - which seems to be the case, forgive me if I'm wrong.
I read and checked the New York Post source, but that doesn't make less disgusted. It's about what was done, not who did it.
But nevermind... I have a personal stance against the whole celebrity culture.
@kingbob337: Right? I do think it's kinda gauche to publish this sort of thing, but I think to pay it too much attention, positive or negative, is to play into the bullshit cultural double standard that has everybody simultaneously ashamed of and obsessed with sex. Sure, this is a series of private exchanges between lovers, but it's also reads like "Young Adult" fiction. By labeling what is, realistically speaking, PRETTY vanilla stuff as "too naughty" or "unfit for print", we're ultimately lowering our tolerances for reality by letting ourselves be scandalized by harmless sexual banter. Essentially, we're abandoning our raw, sometimes ugly humanity in favor of the bland, artificial stimulation offered up by the media. In their natural element, people have the ability to articulate, devise, and perform tasks vastly filthier and more enriching than the New York Post, or some dull-eyed golfer with a Sidekick ever could.
@ElroyStubbern:
I dunno if the reply had anything to do with my comment, but just to make things clear...
It had nothing to do with the sexual content (or lack thereof).
I wasn't offended by the content.
Really. I read through way worse stuff around. And must admit I actually wrote way worse stuff than those messages.
The thing that got me disgusted is the act of PUBLISHING Tiger Wood's personal stuff. It wouldn't matter to me if it was similar to some very raunchy literature with tits and ass or even worse stuff, or if it was some very innocent love messages.
It's the right of privacy that so many people defend but couldn't careless when it comes to a public figure I'm talking about.
It'd be the same to me if the messages published were his romantic case with his lover, or a discussion with his mom about when he's visiting her (though I'm pretty shure something like that would never make the news).
I'm all for openly discussing taboos... probably even more than the average guy. But privacy is one thing I'll always defend.
Like, I'd have no problem at all if the guy decided himself to publish the messages to the press, on a book or whatever... in fact, I doubt I would even read the whole thing and post a comment about it since celebrity stuff never really catches my interest.
What caught my eye though, is the fact that someone dug the info and felt it was alright to publish it. Something that, if happened to me, would result in lawsuits and everything in my power to prevent from happening to others.
@Bokusatsu_Tenshi: Here's the thing with blogs. All content is given the same play.
With newspapers, you see different content in different areas. Opinion is contained to columns, rumors are usually confined to one page, business news is in a strict area, etc., etc.
There are no such dividers in blog setups. Gossip gets the same play as breaking news gets the same play as analysis.
So since there are no sections to put things into, and everything you post will at some point be at the top of the page, do you not post something that's tabloid level? Or do you post it and let it be at the top, until other posts drive it down into oblivion?
At the moment, it's still anything goes in the blog world, for better or worse.
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Why did I check these? Because I did trust her, and I had never done this before until one day she was acting weird, and I had a gut feeling something was up.
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Versus say, you're just jealous and insecure. Which is a completely different feeling altogether.
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See, my life is an open book, check all my emails, my computer, my cell phone, hell, check my webcams when you're not around. I'm so OCD, I wouldn't delete an email even if I was cheating, because I don't delete things!
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Though not a spouse, my big clue was quick window shrinking, which was obvious to me by the reflection in the window.
Next was a casual gander at the history, which reveled an online database of porn, and a goody of an email that went something like "I really enjoyed keeping you company in bed"... well, that's not what it said, but you get the drift.
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Sorry about that, though. I've been divorced and it sucks enough without infidelity.
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And yah, plural. 8 guys in the 18 months we were married including one of my former best friends, she was pregnant for 9 of those 18 months too. And I found out later she was completely unsure who the father was... the only reason I know I'm his father now is because I got to buy a super classy rite aid at-home paternity test.
Yah, I've had a great past 3 years.
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I would like to think I am better than that... oh wait, I am.
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I think its time to leave him alone. LEAVE TIGER ALONE!!
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Ruined? Hardly. Sure, he lost his sponsors and endorsements but even if him and his wife split, he'll still have more money than he could ever spend in his or our lifetimes.
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It can buy LOTS AND LOTS of whores, but it can't buy happiness, or people's respect.
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Jaimee: ... we can watch desperate housewives again haha
Tiger: oh god
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I have no problems with the jokes and stuff here on Gizmodo, but this is tabloid level. Do you guys really want to go there?
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I mean, think of how anyone - Giz reader, Giz writters - would feel not only having their personal stuff posted on the Internet, but also being mocked for them.
I know this isn't professional journalism nor I expect it to be, but I though there were some ethical guideliness... apparently I was wrong.
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Maybe I was delusional or something, and I know those are hard choices (to publish or not)... but somehow I thought Gizmodo was the type of blog I was not going to find this sort of stuff.
I'm still a Giz fan and all, but the fact that publishing a guy's private messages disgusts me won't change.
You know, one thing is to go ahead and talk about your private life by your own will... but it's a totally different thing to have your private life out there without consent - which seems to be the case, forgive me if I'm wrong.
I read and checked the New York Post source, but that doesn't make less disgusted. It's about what was done, not who did it.
But nevermind... I have a personal stance against the whole celebrity culture.
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I dunno if the reply had anything to do with my comment, but just to make things clear...
It had nothing to do with the sexual content (or lack thereof).
I wasn't offended by the content.
Really. I read through way worse stuff around. And must admit I actually wrote way worse stuff than those messages.
The thing that got me disgusted is the act of PUBLISHING Tiger Wood's personal stuff. It wouldn't matter to me if it was similar to some very raunchy literature with tits and ass or even worse stuff, or if it was some very innocent love messages.
It's the right of privacy that so many people defend but couldn't careless when it comes to a public figure I'm talking about.
It'd be the same to me if the messages published were his romantic case with his lover, or a discussion with his mom about when he's visiting her (though I'm pretty shure something like that would never make the news).
I'm all for openly discussing taboos... probably even more than the average guy. But privacy is one thing I'll always defend.
Like, I'd have no problem at all if the guy decided himself to publish the messages to the press, on a book or whatever... in fact, I doubt I would even read the whole thing and post a comment about it since celebrity stuff never really catches my interest.
What caught my eye though, is the fact that someone dug the info and felt it was alright to publish it. Something that, if happened to me, would result in lawsuits and everything in my power to prevent from happening to others.
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With newspapers, you see different content in different areas. Opinion is contained to columns, rumors are usually confined to one page, business news is in a strict area, etc., etc.
There are no such dividers in blog setups. Gossip gets the same play as breaking news gets the same play as analysis.
So since there are no sections to put things into, and everything you post will at some point be at the top of the page, do you not post something that's tabloid level? Or do you post it and let it be at the top, until other posts drive it down into oblivion?
At the moment, it's still anything goes in the blog world, for better or worse.
I'm waiting to see how everything shakes out.
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