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    TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders

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    Image of icelight icelight
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders
    So a company decides that by selecting one set of hardware vendors for integral components they can improve reliability and reduce development costs at the expense of flexibility and price competition. This is a fairly standard, if at times questionable business decision. One would think it would be fairly familiar for Giz, seeing as it's the basis of how Apple works as well.
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    Image of madog madog
    05/14/09

    @icelight: While it's a similar practice by Apple, it's not the same. It's more closely related to high speed ISP's selling and supporting specific wireless routers, specifically 2Wires. While most any wireless router would work, they only support the 2Wires because it's far easier to support when [stupid] people call in complaining that their service isn't working due to their JoeBob wireless router setup.


    You don't need a specific Mac compatible drive (even though they would love that) to use on one, and you technically don't even need the Mac OS to operate Mac hardware. They just limit the use of their software on others hardware. Of course you can do that, but it's ridiculous to think that they would need to support their OS on PC hardware (in fact that's why they don't, so many different PC hardware manufacturers to support).


    For those reasons I don't think it's that unusual for TiVo to do this, but on the other side it's just a standard, generic port. If TiVo were bigger dicks and developed their own port..... well it would be even more ridiculous but then be more understandable.

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    Image of I'm a PC I'm a PC
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders
    popular science had this "how 2.0" of how to physically replace the hard drive in your DVR; voiding your warranty of course.
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    05/14/09

    Found the article [popsci.com] it says its for cable co. DVR's but might be worth a look if you're interested.
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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    05/14/09

    @I'm a PC: That all seems like far more trouble than simply connecting up a drive that was sold for the express purpose of adding extra storage, doesn't it?
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders

    "When I buy an electronic toothbrush from Braun or Philips, am I restricted to using a particular kind of toothpaste? No. The understanding is that I will use toothpaste, but not what kind."


    Actually, that's not quite true. Using your electronic toothbrush with a mismatched and/or unapproved toothpaste can lead to less-than-optimal results.


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    Image of admoseremic admoseremic
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders
    Proprietary hardware/software is as awful as Hitler raping Mother Teresa.
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    Image of kingoftowns kingoftowns
    05/14/09

    @admoseremic: is there any video of that?
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    Image of bosskev bosskev
    05/14/09

    @kingoftowns: No, but it was covered in Mother Teresa's autobiography, "Mein Kunt".
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    Image of All_Thumbs All_Thumbs
    05/14/09

    @bosskev: They just started excavation on a 10th level of hell, just for that comment.
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    05/14/09

    @All_Thumbs - R.O.A.C.H. Black Hat Haberdasher: Yeah, I know. I can hear all that digging racket going on about two levels above me.
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    Image of FrancesTheMute FrancesTheMute
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders
    there are hacks to get around it. I was also under the impression that other eSATA drives will work, they just aren't supported by Tivo and you will void the warranty if you use something other than the approved WD one. Check out the folks at Tivocommunity, there's lots of good information about everything Tivo there
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    05/14/09

    @FrancesTheMute: it is illegal for them to void your warranty because of the use of a different drive. they would need to prove it caused the failure of their device. they, however, do not have to offer support for another device.
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    Image of fleebailey33 fleebailey33
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders
    im suprised TiVo is still around


    why hasn't DVR killed it?

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    Image of Nick Nick
    05/14/09

    @fleebailey33: cause everything falls so short in comparison. for a lot of folks your cable provider's box is fine, but for the discriminating TV connoisseur only the best will do. TiVo just does so much more so well
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    05/14/09

    @notificating da interwebs_Nick:


    do you still need a phone line?

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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    05/14/09

    @fleebailey33: Not for like 7 years.
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    Image of Nick Nick
    05/14/09

    In reply to TiVo Will Not Approve (or Even Test) Seagate Showcase and Other DVR Expanders
    call seagate and ask 'em to sue. litigation fixes everything.


    now, in the mean time send me the seagate and i will test it out for you guys. i will do a full write up and send you back the drive when i am done. i right very good.

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    Image of Lite: hates Illinois Nazis Lite: hates Illinois Nazis
    05/14/09

    @notificating da interwebs_Nick: Would you like to know why Seagate isn't supported by TiVo?


    [money.cnn.com]


    Because Seagate tried to screw cable and DVR companies by attempting to force them to buy more expensive/faster drives.

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    Image of RustyO918 RustyO918
    05/14/09

    @notificating da interwebs_Nick:"i right very good."


    ... ... ...

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    Image of madog madog
    05/14/09

    @RustyO918: Im thinking that's the joke.....................................................................................
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    Image of ZLevee ZLevee
    04/21/09

    In reply to Amazon HD Video On Demand Offically on TiVo
    @copwriter: (reply button isn't working) I'm not sure it would work but you could try enabling Tivo's own CC in the settings menu.
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    04/21/09

    In reply to Amazon HD Video On Demand Offically on TiVo
    I must say that except for Ghost Town and American Teen(never saw), you have horrible taste in movies Chris.
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    Image of davezatz davezatz
    01/27/09

    In reply to Digeo Moxi HD DVR: $400 $800, No Fees, 500GB HDD, Might Even Be Real
    Wilson, for the most complete and accurate DVR coverage you may want to keep an eye on Zatz Not Funny. ;)


    [www.zatznotfunny.com]

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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    01/26/09

    In reply to Digeo Moxi HD DVR: $400 $800, No Fees, 500GB HDD, Might Even Be Real
    Man, you guys are fact-checking the hell out of me today, and I appreciate it. I was clearly not paying 100% attention when I wrote it. Busy day. Sorry!!
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    Image of ryancmor17 ryancmor17
    01/26/09

    In reply to Digeo Moxi HD DVR: $400 $800, No Fees, 500GB HDD, Might Even Be Real
    There's no mention of expansion via eSATA like on TiVo and cable boxes, nor is there any mention of the internet apps we have come to expect in everything devices like this one.


    followed by:
    * 500 GB storage means 75 hours of 1080 HD recording or 300 hours of standard definition recording - and Moxi is expandable with up to two terabytes of external eSATA drive storage


    Makes baby Jesus cry.

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    Image of Wilson Rothman Wilson Rothman
    01/26/09

    @ryancmor17: Didn't mean to make BJ cry. I hear he's pretty good at forgiving though, so, phew!
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    Image of MegaZone MegaZone
    01/26/09

    In reply to Digeo Moxi HD DVR: $400 $800, No Fees, 500GB HDD, Might Even Be Real
    Where did $400 come from? Everything I've seen on this box indicates a $800 MSRP, which is what Amazon is currently selling them for.
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    Image of Hooray4Zoidberg Hooray4Zoidberg
    12/09/08

    In reply to TiVo Sticks Ads Into Timeshifting
    This is a great way to kill your dominance of the DVR market share. If I had a Tivo I'd be looking for other options already.
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    Image of weatherman weatherman
    12/09/08

    @Hooray4Zoidberg: agreed. I mean, I could understand it if customers weren't paying for the service - heck, give them the option to have ads in lieu of monthly subscription fee and they might take it. But just to try and make a little more money off of them? That's just an abuse of trust.


    My TimeWarner Cable DVR doesn't do that, though it probably will shortly. But given the choice between suffering ads on my TimeWarner DVR or buying hardware and paying for service on a TiVO and watching ads, I think I'll stick with TWC, as much as it pains me to say that.

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    Image of whatachiouche whatachiouche
    12/09/08

    In reply to TiVo Sticks Ads Into Timeshifting
    Thank God! TV Stations and different Media networks need to make money somehow. If we don't see advertisements, how would programing ever be paid for?
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    Image of Kaiser-Machead Kaiser-Machead
    12/09/08

    @whatachiouche:

    If we don't see advertisements, how would programing ever be paid for?

    I dunno,...the subscription fees?

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    Image of EBone EBone
    12/09/08

    @Kaiser-Machead: I believe he was referring to something like, "How is NBC going to produce 'Law & Order' without advertising revenue," and not referring to the subscription fees for TiVo service.
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