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10/21/09
10/21/09
There has never been an "thats all" with the rumored "project black". From the very beginning it was pegged as a three fold approach, new plans, new phones, and better service. Just because we got a bit more information on one part doesn't void the other parts. #tmobileprojectdark
10/21/09
10/21/09
What have been the major flaws of US cell phone service for a long time? Contracts and "locking" you into a phone for that contract. If I can skip all of that and still get a great (even better) price on the plan, it really does shake things up.
If nothing else its going to get rid of the specter that went with pre-paid plans. If the general consumer starts to see that that isn't there (that is that flex pay is just for poor people with bad credit) they've really changed the game.
If I'm going to get a great phone, with no contract, and unlimited everything for $80 its a revolution for me.
10/21/09
Look at the box underneath the plans that says: Additional Add-ons Unlimited Web for Smartphones #tmobileprojectdark
10/21/09
10/21/09
They are NOT subsidizing a phone on the no contract plan. You are paying FULL price, therefore they do not need to recoup losses by charging you more on your monthly bill, they can SAVE YOU MONEY because they DIDN'T give you anything...
The contract plan is more because it's 1 million percent obvious that will remain the same, and they will GIVE you a SUBSIDIZED phone. So they are recouping their 500 dollar loss (assuming you get a Blackberry or something for free at a Best Buy Mobile) by charging you 10 dollars extra a month.
You still will SAVE MONEY if you get a phone that costs 240.01 dollars or more on a contract, you will spend MORE money if you get a phone 239.99 or less for free on contract. Without getting technical and counting taxes... #tmobileprojectdark
10/21/09
10/21/09
• $50 for voice/SMS/data, everything unlimited.
• $30 for unlimited talk and SMS.
• $20 for unlimited voice only.
• Pre-paid
• Requires T-Mobile Logo Forehead Tattoo
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It looks like the extra packages at the bottom offer a way to mix and match plans. Like the unlimited data plan for smartphones (Talk plan only) gives you a method to get unlimited data and voice without paying for SMS.
And interestingly, the Unlimited Web for Other Phones add-on, that you can get with unlimited voice/SMS plan gets you unlimited everything, but for cheaper than you would if you had a smartphone....
There's all manner of really awesome in this project, I think. Can't wait. #tmobileprojectdark
10/21/09
10/21/09
But a perk like that aside, yeah, it makes no sense. #tmobileprojectdark
10/18/09
What's the matter? Can't afford an iPhone?
I'm really sick and tired of hearing all this fucking iPhone bashing from people too fucking poor to buy an iPhone. Just because life took a dump on you doesn't give you the right to take a dump on the iPhone. Admit it - the iPhone is the greatest phone ever invented (and I include the phone that Alistair Gramm Bell invented).
"WAAAH! I'm so fucking poor! WAAAAH! I can't pay my phone bill with WELFARE! WAAAH! Obama won't buy me iPhones with his stimulus bill! WAAAAH! Pay me for being a Poor!"
All you people who bitch about iPhones are just Poors and you deserve to be shot. #tmobileprojectdark
10/18/09
"Hmm." Looks around. "Who are all these people?" "Weekend crowd must be from the 'burbs." #tmobileprojectdark
10/18/09
10/17/09
Right now for my area its totally dead for Tmobile #tmobileprojectdark
10/17/09
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Thats my hope at least #tmobileprojectdark
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Hopefully that is what they are planning on doing. #tmobileprojectdark
10/17/09
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Looks like it would really take some major redesign to "bring the iPhone to every carrier," no? If every AT&T customer with an iPhone could--and did--take their iPhone to T-Mo, they would shit, because the iPhone won't talk to their high speed network at 1.7/2.1 GHz, and if you think AT&T has capacity issues with the iPhone, it would absolutely cripple T-Mo's 1.9 GHz network--T-Mo doesn't have anywhere near the spectrum of AT&T.
The Apple exclusive with AT&T was *Apple's* choice. They calculated they would get more money out of working with AT&T than any other carrier. That IS competition. #tmobileprojectdark
10/17/09
Competition = good.
Good = not company policy.
therefore
Competition = not company policy.
This works with a variety of other situations.
--Google Voice app on iPhone = good.
--Hulu on Boxee = good.
-- Easy to understand instructions on IKEA-knock-off furniture that doesn't rely solely on friggin' ambiguous not-to-scale diagrams = good.
Seriously. I'm gonna break this friggin' end table. #tmobileprojectdark
10/18/09
Like, super duper hard. #tmobileprojectdark
10/18/09
@zoolook: Yeah, that is why the Curve for AT&T is the 8300 and the Curve for Verizon is the 8330. Try taking your 8330 and activating it on AT&T. Let me say this slowly. It. Is. A. Different. Phone. With. The. Same. Name.
Got it? #tmobileprojectdark
10/18/09
*I wanted to reply, but seriously didn't want my name associated with promoting your post, even in this limited context. #tmobileprojectdark
10/10/09
10/10/09
Not only that, but that is, as you said, at home. Not your cell network. And barring anything else, this makes the network roomier for folks who are on it.
Your question about how fast the phone can load the web page, however is legitimate, and will probably end up the bottleneck. I'll give you that.