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    Image of dfp3050 dfp3050
    12/04/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    Anyone interested in investing in a multi-tool should look at the Skelitool. It's not bloated with features and is still very handy. I love mine and never thought about getting anything else. I mean, who really needs a nail file on their multi-tool. Honestly!
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/04/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    It seems a major selling point of this is that the knife blades are available without opening the tool, but if you're serious about using knives a multitool blade is not going to be your primary edge. Sounds like they've also thrown in spring-assist opening which is the same thing that keeps the otherwise excellent Kershaw knives out of my pocket. Aside from increasing the possibility of unintentional opening, any uniform that pats you down will declare it a switchblade and treat you accordingly. They'll be wrong, but you'll have to put up with it.
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    Image of SJRNWT SJRNWT
    12/04/09

    @Killjoy: My boss bought me this knife with the wire stripper attachment.

    I've never, in the 6 months I've owned it so far opened it accidentally. As for it being classified as a switchblade by any authorities-- from my experience, that won't happen. I've been searched by police (long story, very trivial) and they didn't assume it was a switchblade. Also, at an airport they found it in my checked-in luggage and reviewed it only to realize it wasn't a switchblade. Perhaps in Canada the knowledge about the difference between assisted torsion blades and switchblades is more common.

    In any case, the knife is tough as nails and all the components can be replaced. Also, the assisted pliers do give out about twice the grip strength as advertised-- it's amazing.
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    Killjoy promoted this comment Edited by SJRNWT at 12/04/09 11:07 AM SJRNWT was starred SJRNWT was unstarred
    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/04/09

    @SJRNWT: "I've never, in the 6 months I've owned it so far opened it accidentally." Nor is it probable, it's just an increased possibility. If you spend regular time taking impact or working while lying down, it's something to consider.

    "Perhaps in Canada the knowledge about the difference between assisted torsion blades and switchblades is more common." Given my personal experience in the US, that's one possible explanation. As far as any cop I've ever "met" is concerned, if you can open it with one hand it's a switchblade and you're a perp. As such, my advice comes from the CYA angle.
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    Image of SJRNWT SJRNWT
    12/04/09

    @Killjoy: I should mention that the SOG PowerAssist does have locks on all the assisted torsion blades, so that is pretty much a surefire way of not opening it accidentally.

    As for being searched and having a police officer finding the multitool on me, he acknowledged it was strictly a work tool, and also that it wasn't a switchblade. Perhaps officers in Canada are trained to know the difference. When I was searched, I was in full work attire too-- slacks, dress shirt, etc, so I didn't exactly look like I was about to shank anybody with my chiv.
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/04/09

    @SJRNWT: "I should mention that the SOG PowerAssist does have locks on all the assisted torsion blades..."

    That's useful to know, and it makes this multitool a better deal. I wish Kershaw would add closed-position locks, or at lease use lighter springs.
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    Image of bustedchain bustedchain
    12/05/09

    @Killjoy: hmmm.. I can open any knife in my titanium leatherman one handed and they are not torsion assisted. Perhaps I misunderstand your message here.
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/07/09

    @bustedchain: Since you didn't spell out which message you were trying to understand, I can only guess at what will clarify your understanding. Based on your reply, it sounds like you think I'm asserting that torsion assistance is necessary for one-hand opening, which is not the case. One of my points is that torsion assistance is *not* necessary for one-handed opening, and minorly increases the possibility of unintentional opening.

    EDIT: You may be referring to my message about police characterization of knives that can be opened one-handed, in which case you have a point. Yes, there are knives that can be opened one-handed that contain no springs whatsoever, and these knives are not legally classified as switchblades. On multiple occasions I have witnessed active-duty American police officers label knives that contain no springs as switchblades, their sole reasoning being that the knives could be opened with one hand.
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    Edited by Killjoy at 12/07/09 1:03 PM Killjoy was starred Killjoy was unstarred
    Image of bustedchain bustedchain
    12/10/09

    @Killjoy: You nailed it with the edit. I see where you are coming from there. Thanks for the clarification.

    I thought I was being clear, but I can see how I could have been more so. Thanks again.
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    Image of maven2k maven2k
    12/04/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    I have the old SOF Power Pliers Multitool and the thing is a beast. SOG makes some of the toughest knives/tools on the planet. I wouldn't buy any other type of multitool. They also make the Navy Seal knife and that thing is damn near indestructible.
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    Image of spudhed spudhed
    12/04/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    pah its not a patch on my leatherman skeletool carbon!
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    Image of loriensleafs loriensleafs
    12/04/09

    @spudhed: skeletool is the best one, you don't actually need all the shit on these things.
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    Image of Killjoy Killjoy
    12/04/09

    @loriensleafs: Well. It kinda depends, doesn't it? If you, say, blow a radiator hose on the highway and the only tool at hand is a multitool, you'll suddenly find all that shit mighty handy.
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    Image of loriensleafs loriensleafs
    12/04/09

    @Killjoy: naw, what do you need to fix that problem, what tool?
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    12/03/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    I'm replacing my leatherman. now.
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    Image of Yerzriknot Yerzriknot
    12/03/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    The only way that thing could be cooler is if it had a fleshlight.
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    Image of Lizard_King Lizard_King
    12/03/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    Heh. Got one of these for $42 shipping during their last woot-off.

    It's a companion to my Leatherman Crunch - The can opener and the geared pliers are better than the Leatherman offerings.
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    Image of bobofish bobofish
    12/04/09

    @Lizard_King: Different strokes for different strokes. The gearing is such that with a normal size hand, you can only make use of the extra torque on small items, whereas with a Swisstool or Leatherman you don't have to have freak hands to turn a bolt.
    I'd love it if they offered different gear ratios.
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    Lizard_King promoted this comment bobofish was starred bobofish was unstarred
    Image of Lizard_King Lizard_King
    12/04/09

    @bobofish: Well, that's your problem right there - pliers aren't for bolts. You start opening those jaws up more and they become less parallel and less efficient.

    I like the vise grip that the Letherman offers, but to be honest, I've not been happy with their products because it seems the tools are not designed well. Honestly, I pick up my Swissflame SAK more often than my original Leatherman (the Crunch and the Sog stay on my motorcycle).
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    Image of jonnyversusrobots jonnyversusrobots
    12/03/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    That is badass. Anyone have any experience with SOG versus, say, Leatherman? I'm in the market for a multitool. And I like the sound of a "power assist knife".
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    Image of bobofish bobofish
    12/04/09

    @jonnyversusrobots: If you want a spring assisted knife, first check your local laws because some places are starting to pretend that spring assist is the same as auto opening, which it isn't.

    Second, save yourself the trouble and buy a Kershaw, Benchmade or similar folder and then a Leatherman or Swisstool.

    Ultimately I think SOG is fine but I like Leatherman better for functionality, reliable quality and hand comfort. Swisstools are probably built even better but they're not quite my style. Frankly SOG is pretty much second tier in almost every way, unless for example you want the flexibility to switch out tools, which you can not do in anything else.

    Also, the spring assist in that SOG basically costs you any tools besides the blades in that half of the tool. Not worth it in my opinion.

    Although if you need to use standard hex bits, for example because of some unusual screws you need to turn, get a SOG. Unless you use an adapter, Leathermans use proprietary flattened hex bits. They work fine for me but not everybody likes them.
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    Image of lostarchitect lostarchitect
    12/04/09

    @bobofish: Yeah, I got harassed by the cops in NYC one time because of a assisted opening knife. I mean, it was a totally innocent 3" pocketknife. In the end it seemed they just wanted to steal the thing anyway--they didn't show up to the court date, so I got off with no charges--but I never saw the Knife again. It was expensive, too.
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    Image of Yerzriknot Yerzriknot
    12/03/09

    In reply to Super Pen Is Thirteen Tools in One Tiny Package
    Wonderful. Now we won't be able to carry pens on airplanes.
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    Image of brianhatch brianhatch
    12/03/09

    In reply to I Want This Only Because It Vaguely Resembles Batman
    The bad thing about black anodized knives is that the blade gets scratched and it looks like hell.
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    Image of RT100 RT100
    12/02/09

    In reply to Electromagnetic Pulses Cut Through Steel in Milliseconds
    I read the title as:
    Electromagnetic Pulses Cat Through Steel in Milliseconds

    and i was a bit concerned

    carry on
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    InsidiousTuna promoted this comment Edited by RT100 at 12/02/09 9:11 PM RT100 was starred RT100 was unstarred
    Image of bustedchain bustedchain
    12/02/09

    @RT100=tg14: I can haz stel kuting kat clawz?
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    Image of Kakkoii Kakkoii
    12/02/09

    @bustedchain:
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    Fractal the Meek promoted this comment Kakkoii was starred Kakkoii was unstarred
    Image of bustedchain bustedchain
    12/03/09

    @Kakkoii: Damned wolverine cat keeps chasing itself up a tree, starts chasing its own tail, falls out of the tree, lands on its feet in a ninja-wolverine-cat midair acrobatic move...and starts the cycle all over again.
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    Image of CaseyG CaseyG
    12/01/09

    In reply to Can You Figure Out All the Uses for the Piranha Multitool?
    That screwdriver bit is worse than useless. To turn a screw with any real torque, you need to press the driver into the screw while turning. With the bit in that hex pass-through hole, you'll be pressing against the opposite blade, slowly gouging a hole in your thumb.
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    Image of Dacker Dacker
    11/30/09

    In reply to Can You Figure Out All the Uses for the Piranha Multitool?
    $50 for a small hunk of forged and CNC machined metal?

    IMHO, this is an overpriced exotic multi-tool which will do nothing particularly well and many tasks with mediocrity. It seems to be more about design and less about the real world; kinda like designer furniture and such. Collectors may grab it up though....

    I'll stick with my Leatherman New Wave, thank you very much; it does many things very well.
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    Image of dragon:ONE dragon:ONE
    11/30/09

    @Dacker: ^5 on the Leatherman. We had the original Wave for a few years - until it eventually broke down on us. We sent it into Leatherman for repairs... turns out they lost it after receiving it. Thanks to the wonders of package tracking, they decided to send us out a new Wave.

    Leatherman's service is bar none and their products frickin' LAST.
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    Image of Dacker Dacker
    11/30/09

    @dragon:ONE:
    Yep, the Leatherman factory is about 25 miles from me. it's a bit over a mile from the Portland, Oregon airport. (If someone is flying into PDX, they do factory tours on Wednesdays; reservations required.)

    A few months ago, I went to the factory to be a guinea pig to evaluate three new designs. it was fun!

    While there, I told them about how my Leatherman Micra was confiscated by TSA. I also told them how I forgot my Wave was in my carry-on when leaving Tokyo. Unlike the TSA, the Japanese security made sure it was properly returned to me at my destination.

    After listening to my stories, Leatherman gave me a replacement Micra. Since I had my Wave with me, they sent it into the service department and had the main blade replaced, the tensions adjusted, and had my name put on it too! This was on top of the $25 gift card I received. NICE!

    When I picked it up a week later, I bought two Juice models for $20 each, plus a case for each, to give as gifts. They have some real killer deals on blems at the store, but 95% of items are at MSRP as to avoid undercutting their retailers.
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    Image of banmojo banmojo
    11/30/09

    @Dacker: dude, I'm jealous. my leatherman ( I bought at Target 12 years ago) is THE #1 tool in my car - have helped me out of so many tight spots/jams over the years. It . just . works . and . works . well!!
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    Dacker promoted this comment banmojo was starred banmojo was unstarred
    Image of Dacker Dacker
    12/01/09

    @banmojo: My Wave is about 10 years old and still works as well as day-one. I have worked as a Technical Marketing Engineer, traveling to various parts of the world to visit major consumer electronics companies, and as a Trade Show Manager. It's ALWAYS on my hip when on the road (except when flying, when it's checked, of course.)

    Sure I've had colleagues snicker a bit, but who always had the right tool handy? I rarely give a rats-ass about what people think....
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    Image of TheZolf TheZolf
    12/01/09

    @Dacker: With you on the Leatherman. And this looks like an overpriced underperformer. The Gerber Shard, on the other hand, is definitely going to be my new keychain when it's released in February.
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    Dacker promoted this comment TheZolf was starred TheZolf was unstarred
    Image of Dacker Dacker
    12/01/09

    @TheZolf:

    The Shard from Gerber Legendary Blades, another local company 10 miles from home, is MUCH more reasonable. I'd have to handle one to really evaluate its usefulness as I cannot get a good sense of scale from the pix.

    Is sort-of reminds me of the US military issue P-38 can opener (prior to MREs.)
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    Image of Curves Curves
    11/30/09

    In reply to Can You Figure Out All the Uses for the Piranha Multitool?
    A tool to poke both of your brothers eyes out.
    Or one eye from each brother.
    That must be the multi-function part.
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    Image of banmojo banmojo
    11/30/09

    @Curves: Ummmm, ok, Curves, your pouty lips have teased and tantalized us all for months now, but this thing about your brothers?? What gives?
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    Curves promoted this comment banmojo was starred banmojo was unstarred
    Image of Curves Curves
    12/01/09

    @banmojo: I never pout, actually, its a big smile 95% of the time and I dont even have brothers, but, if I did, I would surely use this to injure them in some way. Thats what brothers are for, right?
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    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/30/09

    In reply to Can You Figure Out All the Uses for the Piranha Multitool?
    The only function I need it for:

    To crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women.
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    Image of hodge22 hodge22
    11/30/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: ...Conan the Barbarian!
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    Jrsy Devil's Advocate® promoted this comment hodge22 was starred hodge22 was unstarred
    Image of Curves Curves
    11/30/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: Umm, it may be time to schedule a little vacation there guy......youre starting to worry me.
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    Image of firewhisper firewhisper
    11/30/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: Only for what is best in life!
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    Jrsy Devil's Advocate® promoted this comment firewhisper was starred firewhisper was unstarred
    Image of Jrsy Devil's Advocate® Jrsy Devil's Advocate®
    11/30/09

    @Curves: I just had vacation last week. I guess it wasn't enough time off... :(
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    Image of Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow Dr. Evil Genius is eagerly anticipating the Year of the Black Rainbow
    11/30/09

    @Jrsy Devil's Advocate®: I second this statement. I didn't get my fill of Modern Warfare 2 after playing for 24 and 22 straight hours in a 2.5 day stretch.
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