@dingus: I would imagine Android is cheaper to develop for, and possibly easier. It would also surprise me if its performance wasn't better. I have a Fuze and while I love it, Windows Mobile is just saddled with all sorts of "legacy" cruft. Even 6.5 is not much of an improvement, in fact 6.1 to 6.5 is kind of like XP to Vista. It looks marginally cooler, but actually runs worse, and still has a lot of little tiny, non-finger friendly buttons.
My next phone will probably be whatever HTC phone has a keyboard and runs Android at the time. That'll be approximately 17 months from now :)
It's funny that Windows Mobile can actually do way more than people think. Just check out the xda forums and all the accomplishments they've made.
I gotta say though, stock roms are almost always horrible. You gotta go with the custom stuff if you want anything good.
*Forgot to say something more on topic. Anyway, TouchFLO is looking better and better. It's nice to see some shiny things instead of the usual not-so-shiny windows mobile interface.
@MavisPuford: J Average Consumer can't separate WinMo the OS from WinMo the UI. Windows CE is a great embedded OS and up until the last couple of years has been more suited to mobile hardware than Linux. The WinMo UI though looks much like it did when it was on black & white LCD palmtops.
HTC is trying to clean up the UI end as much as a device vendor can. Ultimately MS has to get off their asses and deliver something significantly different or Android will drink their milkshake.
I think alot of people overlook the fact that on WM devices, as outdated as the OS appears to be, you can still load a shitton of free software from the web, you have a massive catelog of apps from WM2003 that all run fine. Plus its as easy to pirate software on a WM phone as it is on Windows, vs trying to jailbreak an iphone.
You guys make it sound like WM will kill one of your pets. With the touchflo, most regular consumers will rarely even see the OS underneath all that skinning, and it works very well.
@Scazza: This is 2009, I think most regular consumers at least somewhat interested in this part of the market will have played with an iPhone. They would NOT confuse this phone with an iPhone or the Pre. Not even close.
Trust me, I'm a tweaker and I love WinMo for the factors you mentioned, however to say that their 'skinning' is a substitute for the complete reworking of what a mobile OS can be is unfounded.
@Joshua Pacada: I completely agree, its not a good substitute, but it is certain useable for most regular consumers. HTC, as a hardware company, have made a fairy nice skin that runs great (check out other skinning apps for WM, see how shit they run).
However, my point is that everyone hates on WM without checking out some of its unique features that even now platforms like andriod and iphone don't offer. Also dont think this is a dig at either of them, I own an iTouch, and i love some of the apps, but having to pay for anything worthwhile, when I can DL for free similar stuff on WM is kinda annoying.
wow. that's pricy, especially for a winmo phone that comes loaded with 6.1! good that they tweaked it so much with touchflo-3d. the old touch diamond was really really hard to use.
And i don't see it as that big of a deal that they removed the front facing camera, because who would you talk to? noone else has video-conferencing capabilities (on their mobiles at least). is talking with ONLY audio really that terrible?
I've been running DCD's 3.2.6 rom on my Mogul for months now with very few problems. In fact, my phone has been running so smoothly that I have decided to hold off on upgrading to the Touch Pro.
PS PPCGeeks.com is another great rom community, even if they mainly focus on CDMA devices.
I know I've mentioned the great work the guys over at xda have been doing a few times on this site so it's great to see you guys recognize them too. Kudos.
@Selcouth14: Add 28 for the answer: Yeah, I figured that Giz would have known about (and been occasionally hyping) XDA off and on for several years by now.
I think this is only like the second article I recall seeing that mentioned anything about xda...
I've been running Kavana's 6.1 ROM for my Dash, and it's been nearly flawless. Gave me the ability to read SDHC cards (original ROM couldn't), added more apps, and they even included a bit of overclocking, too.
on a side note, when did T-Mobile ever carry the Diamond? How did I miss that?
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My next phone will probably be whatever HTC phone has a keyboard and runs Android at the time. That'll be approximately 17 months from now :)
08/18/09
I gotta say though, stock roms are almost always horrible. You gotta go with the custom stuff if you want anything good.
*Forgot to say something more on topic. Anyway, TouchFLO is looking better and better. It's nice to see some shiny things instead of the usual not-so-shiny windows mobile interface.
08/18/09
HTC is trying to clean up the UI end as much as a device vendor can. Ultimately MS has to get off their asses and deliver something significantly different or Android will drink their milkshake.
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You guys make it sound like WM will kill one of your pets. With the touchflo, most regular consumers will rarely even see the OS underneath all that skinning, and it works very well.
08/12/09
Trust me, I'm a tweaker and I love WinMo for the factors you mentioned, however to say that their 'skinning' is a substitute for the complete reworking of what a mobile OS can be is unfounded.
08/12/09
However, my point is that everyone hates on WM without checking out some of its unique features that even now platforms like andriod and iphone don't offer. Also dont think this is a dig at either of them, I own an iTouch, and i love some of the apps, but having to pay for anything worthwhile, when I can DL for free similar stuff on WM is kinda annoying.
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And i don't see it as that big of a deal that they removed the front facing camera, because who would you talk to? noone else has video-conferencing capabilities (on their mobiles at least). is talking with ONLY audio really that terrible?
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TouchWiz became annoying for me to use as a daily thing.
Anyone else running a Verizon Omnia can find some great stuff here:
[knguyentu.com]
I've also totally glommed onto the "Slide to unlock" thing. It's something I've envied the iPhone for. :)
(Slide to Unlock 2 for the Omnia)
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PS PPCGeeks.com is another great rom community, even if they mainly focus on CDMA devices.
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I think this is only like the second article I recall seeing that mentioned anything about xda...
11/06/08
WinMo 6.1 on a PPC6700 doesn't compare to the Touch Pro, obviously, but it's a hell of a lot better than what it'd be otherwise.
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on a side note, when did T-Mobile ever carry the Diamond? How did I miss that?
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